What's going to be on the chopping block?

[Jhhnn]

Did "they" really get screwed though? The comprehensive gallop study of trump supporter found they kept the good jobs. Seems Reagon's massive defense spending & such went to the intended places. Trickle-down hurts people at the bottom the most, that's the minorities & such who they don't particularly care for. Appears these people aren't that stupid.

You need to read a little deeper-

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-widespread-theory-for-donald-trumps-success/

They're doing alright, but they live in places that aren't.

 

[agent00f]

You need to read a little deeper-

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-widespread-theory-for-donald-trumps-success/

They're doing alright, but they live in places that aren't.

It paints the same picture of the folks getting the best handouts in these economically stunted areas acting to keep them. As I've mentioned before, the bumpkins in these places were the chinese of their day relative to expensive city labor after transcontinental transportation was developed. Not coincidentally, even then they acted to keep competition out, eg the Exclusion Act. And now with the development of intl shipping they naturally got displaced by the actual chinese in the same way.

Personally I prefer charity recipients who aren't ungrateful backstabbing shits.

 

[Jhhnn]

It paints the same picture of the folks getting the best handouts in these economically stunted areas acting to keep them. As I've mentioned before, the bumpkins in these places were the chinese of their day relative to expensive city labor after transcontinental transportation was developed. Not coincidentally, even then they acted to keep competition out, eg the Exclusion Act. And now with the development of intl shipping they naturally got displaced by the actual chinese in the same way.

Personally I prefer charity recipients who aren't ungrateful backstabbing shits.

I really don't have a problem with the govt doing more, a lot more, for people who live in the land that the Job Creators forgot, both in the big city & in small town America.

The sticking point in small town America is what they'll accept. They want what no govt can deliver, a return to an America that never really existed & the assertion of Puritan values about work when less & less human work is necessary for the purposes of the Job Creators.

 

[Brainonska511]

I don't believe that creationism promoted by the religious right or evolution promoted by the far left should be taught in schools. The first requires faith (religion) and the second has no definitive proof (unproven speculation) so the curriculum should be limited to the knowledge that is provable which is supposed to be the foundation of science - study to obtain unbiased physical evidence to support a hypothesis.

There is a ton of evidence to support the theory of evolution. It is not 'unproven speculation' nor is it a case of 'no definitive proof'.

 

[agent00f]

I really don't have a problem with the govt doing more, a lot more, for people who live in the land that the Job Creators forgot, both in the big city & in small town America.

The sticking point in small town America is what they'll accept. They want what no govt can deliver, a return to an America that never really existed & the assertion of Puritan values about work when less & less human work is necessary for the purposes of the Job Creators.

They're simply a relative poor return on investment. That money is much better spent on soft power in the pac rim or anywhere really than the rust belt, etc.

 

[Jhhnn]

They're simply a relative poor return on investment. That money is much better spent on soft power in the pac rim or anywhere really than the rust belt, etc.

Given the results of this election I'd say you are mistaken.

 

[agent00f]

Given the results of this election I'd say you are mistaken.

Democrats spent considerable capital saving the half the good jobs in the region via the auto bailouts, the centrist hawks funnel all sorts of military funds inland, and this is their just deserts. Throwing more good money after bad is pure opportunity cost.

 

[Puffnstuff]

There is a ton of evidence to support the theory of evolution. It is not 'unproven speculation' nor is it a case of 'no definitive proof'.

If that were true we'd have species today in the middle of their evolutionary cycles to study. Darwin certainly had some interesting theories but could never find the missing link and nobody ever will. People swear that there are ghosts, have crafted images of them in sheets scaring little children but have we really seen any legitimate physical evidence to support this claim? We will never find a species that is in the midst of transforming from one state to another as if it were ascending upon a physical journey akin to Maslow's hierarchy of needs. A caterpillar transforming from a cocoon to a butterfly is not evolution rather its a part of its normal life cycle. If evolution were true we'd have all manner of oddities about us like flying fish with feathers.

FWIW: When it comes to how we got here this is what I believe.

John 1 King James Version (KJV)

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

2 The same was in the beginning with God.

3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

This is very profound as it tells us several things.
1. Not only is the word God but that everything was made by him.
2. The word became flesh (human form) and lived among man.
3. Jesus is God in the flesh, the sole physical representation of God.

So to sum it up I'll take God's word over a man's word any day of the week. This is why I reject big religion so hard as their behavior is deplorable and is nothing like the example that Jesus set for us. The other thing is that Genesis tells us that there were two distinct groups of animals; one before the creation of man and one afterwards in the Garden of Eden. While I cannot say with absolute certainty what the nature of that first group was it is interesting to note that they were separate from man which tends to make me believe that this group included the dinosaurs on an accelerated life cycle.

 

[agent00f]

If that were true we'd have species today in the middle of their evolutionary cycles to study. Darwin certainly had some interesting theories but could never find the missing link and nobody ever will. People swear that there are ghosts, have crafted images of them in sheets scaring little children but have we really seen any legitimate physical evidence to support this claim? We will never find a species that is in the midst of transforming from one state to another as if it were ascending upon a physical journey akin to Maslow's hierarchy of needs. A caterpillar transforming from a cocoon to a butterfly is not evolution rather its a part of its normal life cycle. If evolution were true we'd have all manner of oddities about us like flying fish with feathers.

FWIW: When it comes to how we got here this is what I believe.

John 1 King James Version (KJV)

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

2 The same was in the beginning with God.

3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

This is very profound as it tells us several things.
1. Not only is the word God but that everything was made by him.
2. The word became flesh (human form) and lived among man.
3. Jesus is God in the flesh, the sole physical representation of God.

So to sum it up I'll take God's word over a man's word any day of the week. This is why I reject big religion so hard as their behavior is deplorable and is nothing like the example that Jesus set for us. The other thing is that Genesis tells us that there were two distinct groups of animals; one before the creation of man and one afterwards in the Garden of Eden. While I cannot say with absolute certainty what the nature of that first group was it is interesting to note that they were separate from man which tends to make me believe that this group included the dinosaurs on an accelerated life cycle.

It's pretty vain to believe a certain interpretation of relative ambiguous language is inerrant.

The real value of religion same as other civilizing influences is to make life fulfilling for more people. A better understanding of genetics/biology is conducive to that end.

 

[repoman0]

If that were true we'd have species today in the middle of their evolutionary cycles to study. Darwin certainly had some interesting theories but could never find the missing link and nobody ever will. People swear that there are ghosts, have crafted images of them in sheets scaring little children but have we really seen any legitimate physical evidence to support this claim? We will never find a species that is in the midst of transforming from one state to another as if it were ascending upon a physical journey akin to Maslow's hierarchy of needs. A caterpillar transforming from a cocoon to a butterfly is not evolution rather its a part of its normal life cycle. If evolution were true we'd have all manner of oddities about us like flying fish with feathers.

I think you are misunderstanding what evolution is. Who says we don't have species today in the middle of their evolutionary cycles? In fact, every single species on this planet is evolving over time and none are in their "final forms" just because that's how we currently observe them.