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Darkhawk28

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Originally posted by: cwjerome
Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: conjur
I asked you first. Go ahead.

So much for the party of ideas. :roll:


Excellent one-sentence analysis! So deep... :roll:

I've provided more ideas in this topic than conjur has in a lifetime.

And I'm not about some "party" you partisan lackey.

You've offered squat except trying to pander blame around.
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: cwjerome
Originally posted by: conjur
. Go ahead.

LOLOL, you're a hack. "I asked you first" like a first grader. Bitch and moan, complain and demand, cry and whine, question and insult, but you offer ABSOLUTELY NOTHING in any of your posts.

What would YOU do about Iraq, terrorism, and the war? What would YOU do with our foreign policy. You post 500 posts a day complaining about your BushDevil, but I cannot think of one time where YOU offered any detailed SOLUTION to anything...

I told you what I'd do. Considering that all I've been doing -telling you what I'd do- I'd like to hear something from you. Afraid to go on the defensive? Or maybe you have no ideas and you're just a critical robot programmed by your DNC masters? Just this once, pretty please, explain to me in detail what you would do... it might save you from pure tool-like status.
Still waiting.

" I would continue to work very closely with them and offer help when and where it was needed."

That doesn't say sh*t. And, considering we've not offered them much of anything, it would seem your position would be appeasement.
 

raildogg

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Terrorists have deeply infiltrated England and its muslim population. Islamic radical clerics and mullahs have already warped the mind of the young. They have brainwashed many in the mosques and even prisons in England. There is a thread a few months back about this.

England is losing a slow war to Islam. They are winning, and England and its Christian heritage are losing. I'm afraid these people will attack more and kill more innocent English civilians.

If we want to really tackle this problem of the rapid rise of violence in Islam and how muslims seem to not get along with other people of different faiths, lets do something about the people who are actually creating the problem. The radical muslim leaders need to be rounded up, jailed and punished. These people are responsible for the deaths of millions worldwide.

I realize that in doing this it will create a lot of even further hatred for others in the muslim world, but we have to attack the source of the problem. Arresting a few scum isn't going to do anything. The scum they arrest in these so-called raids don't matter.

We need to put away these radical muslim leaders.

Put them away, or lose to Islam and be forced to convert.

Your choice.
 

raildogg

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Again, it is the muslim mind that coordinated these attacks. The radical muslims did this.

Al-qaeda has been trying for years to try to portray a different image of itself. Yes, there are white converts. Yes, there are westerners who hate themselves and hate their country, so they may team up with these Islamic fanatics.

We should not forget people like Richard Reed and Jose Padilla.

Al-qaeda and other radical muslim terrorist gangs are very clever.
 

raildogg

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Originally posted by: conjur
Jose Padilla? WTF did he do? Been over three years and no charges.

What the fvk is your problem?

People like Richard Reed and possibly Padilla show al-qaeda and other radical muslim gangs have people other than Arabs. They also have Chechen, Chinese, Indian, Phillipino, Pakistani, Bangladeshi, Sri Lankan, African, Hispanic, European terrorists.

Yes no charges against him, but there is a reason why he was arrested. Remember, this person converted to Islam in prison, like many other converts. He has been to Afghanistan.

Just because there are no charges against him doesn't mean he is not a enemy of this country.
 

conjur

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OMG he's been to Afghanistan!! Hey, guess what? Many members of our military have been there along with our CIA and politicians. Guess we should arrest them, too!


Padilla has been held without due process for 3 years. He's being held up in appeal after appeal to try and keep holding him as an enemy combatant after a judge declared he cannot be.
 

raildogg

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Originally posted by: conjur
OMG he's been to Afghanistan!! Hey, guess what? Many members of our military have been there along with our CIA and politicians. Guess we should arrest them, too!


Padilla has been held without due process for 3 years. He's being held up in appeal after appeal to try and keep holding him as an enemy combatant after a judge declared he cannot be.

You are seriously making a fool out of yourself. But what is new.

The CIA and politicians go to Afghanistan because we are fighting a war there and it has been a hotspot for terrorist activitiy for the past few decades. We need intelligence.

Why does a young criminal kid who has recently converted to Islam in jail need to go to Afghanistan?

Also tell me how the heck did he get the money to travel to these various muslim countries? He went to several of these countries.

Can a normal person who works at a Taco Bell afford to travel overseas and go to several countries in the process?

That certainly raises a lot of serious questions. Remember he moved to Florida. South Florida has a lot of radical muslim issues going on and that is the exact area he moved into.

The government is saying that a radical Muslim in Florida (a radical muslim in Florida? what a fvking shock!!!) recruited Padilla into al-qaeda.

Remember the terrorist money raising professor Sammy al Arian also came from Florida.
 

conjur

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Not very many.

Now, Jose Padilla. What has he been charged with, eh? He's been held without due process for 3 years. What is he being charged with?
 

raildogg

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he is being accysed being a terrorist and a enemy combatant, like many other people they have in custody.

but hey, he is just a good ole Islamic convert in prison who works at a Taco Bell in a radical muslim area of Florida and has a radical muslim boss. and he just for some reason or another decided one day to spend his money on vacationing in Egypt, Afghanistan and Pakistan.

we should probably give him a few thousand dollars, teach him how to fly a jumbo jet and let him free
 

raildogg

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sigh, re-read previous reply

HE IS A ENEMY COMBATANT LIKE THE OTHER HUNDREDS OR THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE IN CUSTODY. HE HAS NO RIGHTS UNDER THE GENEVA CONVENTIONS

did I ever say he was charged?
 

conjur

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Ok, then. Just because this administration (which has been proven to be filled with liars and criminals) says he's an enemy combatant doesn't *make* him an enemy combatant. A judge has even said so and that he must have legal counsel and that he should be charged. 3 years and no charges. Why don't they just hold him forever until he's dead. Keep innocent people from seeing their familes is the hallmark of a democracy. :roll:
 

Darkhawk28

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Originally posted by: raildogg
sigh, re-read previous reply

HE IS A ENEMY COMBATANT LIKE THE OTHER HUNDREDS OR THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE IN CUSTODY. HE HAS NO RIGHTS UNDER THE GENEVA CONVENTIONS

did I ever say he was charged?

How about rights as an American citizen? Or do those not count anymore either? I wish they'd come knocking on your door (more like kicking in) and take you to Gitmo for years without anybody knowing what happened to you.
 

raildogg

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Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: raildogg
sigh, re-read previous reply

HE IS A ENEMY COMBATANT LIKE THE OTHER HUNDREDS OR THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE IN CUSTODY. HE HAS NO RIGHTS UNDER THE GENEVA CONVENTIONS

did I ever say he was charged?

How about rights as an American citizen? Or do those not count anymore either? I wish they'd come knocking on your door (more like kicking in) and take you to Gitmo for years without anybody knowing what happened to you.

Another whining ultra leftist trying to defend suspected terrorists. But keep committing political suicide, its your problem.

They wont come and arrest me because I'm not engaged in any terrorist activity. Do you fvcking hear me?!!

This Padilla guy had a track record that would match just about any al-qaeda suspect.
 

conjur

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Padilla wasn't engaging in terrorist activities either. Otherwise, he'd have been charged by now.

What about that Canadian teenager still being held without legal counsel?
 

conjur

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http://www.cbc.ca/sunday/#night
CRISIS PLANNING
When there is an emergency like the London bombings, the public instinctively turns to professionals for help. We speak to two experts who are in Toronto today for the World Conference on Disaster Management. Adrian Gordon is the Executive Director of the Canadian Centre for Emergency Preparedness, and Peter Power is Managing Director of a London-based consulting firm that specializes in crisis management, Visor Consultants - which on the morning of July 7 was co-incidentally running a security exercise for a private firm, simulating multiple bomb explosions in the London Underground, at the same stations that were subsequently attacked in real life.
WTF?!?