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T2urtle

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Ok guys so i'm on a older i3 2357 samsung laptop. It has USB 2.0 ports and a SD card slot.

I just picked up a 240gb OCZ SSD and will be installing win 7 on the laptop. Now my issue is i watch a lot of videos. Each video is about 1.5gb and it will normally range about 5-10 videos a week. It will be downloaded, viewed and then transfered to my external HD.

I read that, this can cause the SSD the have premature wear, which leads me to looking into storing my videos directly to a USB flash drive or SD card. I worry about the speeds if it would cause any issues. Normally i'm downloading @3.0 MB/S. SD card sticks out on my laptop so i fear it getting lost/damage. USB drive i can find low profile ones and do that.

Should i look into one of the other options or just stop worrying and just store it on the SSD.
 

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Ok guys so i'm on a older i3 2357 samsung laptop. It has USB 2.0 ports and a SD card slot.

I just picked up a 240gb OCZ SSD and will be installing win 7 on the laptop. Now my issue is i watch a lot of videos. Each video is about 1.5gb and it will normally range about 5-10 videos a week. It will be downloaded, viewed and then transfered to my external HD.

I read that, this can cause the SSD the have premature wear, which leads me to looking into storing my videos directly to a USB flash drive or SD card. I worry about the speeds if it would cause any issues. Normally i'm downloading @3.0 MB/S. SD card sticks out on my laptop so i fear it getting lost/damage. USB drive i can find low profile ones and do that.

Should i look into one of the other options or just stop worrying and just store it on the SSD.

The thing about SSD lifespans being short? Utter bull. You're good to download onto the SSD
 

cholley

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i'm with techgod, who gives a crap, the 240gb ssd's are cheap and getting cheaper, just keep your important stuff on some redundant backup, and don't sweat it.
 

Blain

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Writes are the only issue with SSD wear. Once to load files onto them, reads can be done until the SSD dies from a power surge or some other non-wear event.
I'd backup to a SSD as well as some other type of storage (cloud, USB, etc).
 

ArisVer

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I would use the SSD and it's better to treat the SSD as a normal HDD.
I think SSDs, SDs and USB flash disks have the same kind of wear. I have been using an SDXC 30GB card transferring videos for over 6 months now and everything is good.
 

Charlie98

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I babied my first SSD, it's my nature to buy good things, take care of them and try to make them last. But then I figured it out... an SSD is a tool, a consumable tool... it's not going to last forever. So instead of wasting time and effort trying to shield the drive from use (writes,) I just use it as it was intended and enjoy the ease of use... let the tool do the work it was intended to do, and get a new drive (most likely bigger, better, and cheaper...) when it finally wears out.

EDIT: OP, my turtle is meaner than your turtle... ;)
 

sm625

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Since you have an OCZ SSD, I'd be very worried. But normally an SSD handles video just fine. It is a lot of data, but it is only accessed a couple times. Windows is constantly reading and writing several log files every second which will wear out an SSD long before a few videos will not to mention the pagefile.
 

Jeff7

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Writes are the only issue with SSD wear. Once to load files onto them, reads can be done until the SSD dies from a power surge or some other non-wear event.
I'd backup to a SSD as well as some other type of storage (cloud, USB, etc).
Even so, with the wear-leveling that's normally built into drives, you should get quite a bit of life out of it.

I had an Intel SSD for my primary drive (including the swapfile and temp file folder), and its utility showed close to 10TB of data written to the drive after >2 years. The utility also showed a status bar for estimated life remaining, and I think it was still over 85%.
I'm saying "was" because I've since sold the drive. It was only 80GB, and I got a nice deal on something >200GB.
 

VirtualLarry

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I would use the SSD and it's better to treat the SSD as a normal HDD.
I think SSDs, SDs and USB flash disks have the same kind of wear. I have been using an SDXC 30GB card transferring videos for over 6 months now and everything is good.

SSDs have much better longevity than SD cards and USB sticks. Don't both with them, download directly to your SSD, it can take it.
 

thesmokingman

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Just stay away from the cheap ass SSD like the BX100 which doesn't have what's that thingy called... oh slc caching which basically extends write lifetimes.
 

Elixer

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Since you have an OCZ SSD, I'd be very worried. But normally an SSD handles video just fine. It is a lot of data, but it is only accessed a couple times. Windows is constantly reading and writing several log files every second which will wear out an SSD long before a few videos will not to mention the pagefile.

Nothing wrong with the current OCZ SSD's. They are owned by Toshiba.

Anyway, OP, if you are going to write 80GB of videos to your SSD per day, then, it will take years of that kind of constant writing before the SSD gives it up.
By that time, I am sure you will have newer SSDs.
 

Ranulf

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Just stay away from the cheap ass SSD like the BX100 which doesn't have what's that thingy called... oh slc caching which basically extends write lifetimes.

Uhm, ok.

OP, just use your ssd for your video downloads and transfer them to the HD for long term storage when done. The ssd will be fine.
 

T2urtle

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Thanks guys!!!!

Will just treat the ssd like normal disk drive.


Quick question... I've used the Samsung magican thing to optimize my desktop that has a 850evo. Can I use the same software to optimize my ocz ssd? Ocz drive didn't come with anything but I didn't check their site yet.


EDIT: OP, my turtle is meaner than your turtle... ;)

Your red eye slider isn't a match for my
Eastern box.
 
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Red Squirrel

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For day to day use on a desktop I would not worry about SSD life span. Just make sure stuff like defrag scheduling is off in newer versions of Windows. (It's on by default) There's a couple other optimization stuff you can do too, but that is probably the major one. Defrag does not really work or even have any benefit on a SSD, it just moves data around for nothing, using up writes for nothing.

I would not however use a SSD in a raid set for something like a VM/server environment, as they'll get pounded a lot more with many write operations. Enterprises do it, but they use enterprise grade SSD setups that cost more than your car and they are pefectly ok with the idea of replacing them all in 3 years from now whether they have to or not. If they don't use their budget they lose it.
 

Charlie98

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Thanks guys!!!!

Will just treat the ssd like normal disk drive.


Quick question... I've used the Samsung magican thing to optimize my desktop that has a 850evo. Can I use the same software to optimize my ocz ssd? Ocz drive didn't come with anything but I didn't check their site yet.




Your red eye slider isn't a match for my
Eastern box.

I wouldn't use Magician to optimize your drive, unless it does it exactly the way you want. Optimization changed some settings I didn't want changed... Really, all I use Magician for is to check the FW and run a bench or two. It is proprietary... it only works with Samsung drives... so 'no' on your OCZ.

****

Ted is mean as hell... he chases me around! :eek:
 

razel

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Nearly the same situation as you when it comes to storing downloaded videos/music. Back in the day affordable SSDs were the smaller ones... 60-80GB. Back then I used a portable HDD to directly store my downloads. Portable HDDs were FAR cheaper per/GB than USB flash. Now it's not that much cheaper. 128GB can be had on sale in the low $30 range. 2TB of HDD is almost always $80 for a portable. You may want to go that route. Even if that cheap flash or HDD fails outside it's warranty, usually 1 year then it's only $30 or $80 of your money.
 

T2urtle

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I wouldn't use Magician to optimize your drive, unless it does it exactly the way you want. Optimization changed some settings I didn't want changed... Really, all I use Magician for is to check the FW and run a bench or two. It is proprietary... it only works with Samsung drives... so 'no' on your OCZ.

****

Ted is mean as hell... he chases me around! :eek:
Found that out this morning. Ocz software only ran tests and firmware. Samsung stuff wouldn't let me do anything.

Drive is in. This my second ssd, but like my 50th OS install. But still shocked how everything is done in under 10 minutes.