What's all this fuss about next gen games?

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sxr7171

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I'm still impressed with the old consoles considering the hardware. Like the water in GTA 5 on PS3 is amazing, nice waves and when they crash into the rocks they whoosh up into the air. I haven't seen PC games do much with water, Crysis 1 looked good but the waves and how it crashes against surfaces sucked. Even the stormy weather in GTA 5 is better than most every game I've played. Stalker COP's weather wasn't too bad.

AC4 on PC has notable water effects. Also BF4 on PC. The way the splash hits the lens on your camera is pretty darn good looking.

Also to the point we are not yet in "next gen" yet. What we have is a 0.5 gen. Halfway to next gen. But I have to say I'm still impressed with what a high end PC can do with these "horrible console ports". It will have to do for the next year or two.
 
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HeXen

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AC4 on PC has notable water effects. Also BF4 on PC. The way the splash hits the lens on your camera is pretty darn good looking.

I noticed BF4 too but also lets not forget the hardware of the PS3...that's what makes it even more impressive. If you go by specs alone...which most console/PC debates go by, then the PS3 hardware should never have been capable of doing games like Crysis 1 remake or GTA 5 for that matter. The light shafts, shadows, physics were all pretty impressive. Still playing GTA5 atm and that game is pretty awesome.
 

sxr7171

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I noticed BF4 too but also lets not forget the hardware of the PS3...that's what makes it even more impressive. If you go by specs alone...which most console/PC debates go by, then the PS3 hardware should never have been capable of doing games like Crysis 1 remake or GTA 5 for that matter. The light shafts, shadows, physics were all pretty impressive. Still playing GTA5 atm and that game is pretty awesome.

Totally agree. I think it's down to diminishing returns again. Amazing results from a nearly decade old machine. And a decade is an eternity in computing.

The differences become increasingly small. If anything what a high end pc buys you is higher resolutions and better AA. In the larger scheme of things those are small visual differences but important to me. For most people the difference is not worth the cost difference.

Getting back to your point the difference between PS2 and PS3 is much greater than between PS3 and PS4 and will be even when games are fully optimized in a year or two. And think about the number of years of difference between those generations of consoles.

To really proceed further there needs to be some paradigm shift in graphics computing. I don't if that's ray tracing or something else.
 
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Madia

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so what is being released as far as rpgs

Witcher 3, Dragon Age: Inquisition and Final Fantasy XV are the next gen titles slated for release this year. Of them Witcher 3 would be the one to push the envelope graphically.
 
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so what is being released as far as rpgs

The new Dragon Age game is coming out with FB3, not sure of the exact release date. Actually that is the only new game that I am really looking forward to. However after having been very disappointed in Bioware recently, it probably wont be a day one purchase, but wait for reviews and hopefully a price drop.


Edit: yea, forgot about Witcher 3. It sounds great, but I have the first 2 and have not finished either.
 

futurefields

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GTA5 has some really incredible graphical fx all things considered.

I agree that the water in that game blows away anything on PC. Rockstar really got a good algorithm there. Crysis 3 water is very nice looking but doesn't have that interactive nature that GTA5 water does.

Even Super Mario Sunshine had more interactive water than Crysis 3, which is odd. PC games seem to skimp on the physics of that kind of stuff, whereas consoles they seem to emphasize it a little more. Wonder why that is...
 

Stringjam

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"Next-gen" graphics aren't nearly as important to me as the fact that AI behaviors still seem to be stuck in 2005.

The fact that AI scripting is almost never even discussed as a part of a "next-gen" approach means that they're probably going to stay there, too. :rolleyes:
 

StinkyPinky

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I think Witcher 3 could be the ground breaking game graphically. There's an amazing 1080p trailer of it somewhere. Looks amazing. That's PC/Next-gen console only.
 

davie jambo

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Assassin's Creed IV looks about the same on PS4 as it does on PC. It's a big leap from the Xbox 360/PS4 but the same kind of quality us PC gamers have been used to for a few years now.

PC version on the highest settings is a jump up from PS4 and it runs at double the frame rate if you remove the v-synch

Ubi do the best water btw (see AC4 and Far Cry 3 )
 

desura

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Like all console launches, what happens is the first wave of games amounts to basically a previous-gen game with some graphic tricks bolted on with the new hardware.

Usually gen 2 sequels are the meat of it and the most impressive. Which is like 2-3 years from now.

I'm actually pretty optimistic about this gen. I felt like the ps3/360 gen in general was just graphical tricks bolted onto the same confined levels. The processing power of this gen should allow for truly vast open spaces never seen before.