What's all this fuss about next gen games?

[vanguard27]

Any major difference between the top current games?

 

[lilrayray69]

No.

 

[gorcorps]

We haven't seen a next-gen only game yet, so right now we've only been seeing stuff designed to be ported. Next month we'll see Titanfall on the XB-one and Infamous on the PS4 which will be the first big name games that have been designed for next-gen only.

 

[BrightCandle]

Ummm Titanfall is on PC and it actually runs better there in beta than it did on Xbone.

I think the big fuss about next gen games is more than the ported games should look a lot better, they wont be as crippled by their platform as the xbox360/ps3 ones were and that is about it. Top PC games have been meeting and exceeding next gen graphics for quite a few years, its just there were a lot of big budget games that were hampered by the xbox360/ps3 requirements.

 

[KaOTiK]

We haven't seen a next-gen only game yet, so right now we've only been seeing stuff designed to be ported. Next month we'll see Titanfall on the XB-one and Infamous on the PS4 which will be the first big name games that have been designed for next-gen only.

Titanfall is on the 360 as well.

It is going to be a little bit till we see a next gen game that does come out for the PC as well. Outside of exclusives, this entire year will probably be cross gen titles.

 

[gorcorps]

Titanfall is on the 360 as well.

It is going to be a little bit till we see a next gen game that does come out for the PC as well. Outside of exclusives, this entire year will probably be cross gen titles.

Whoops... didn't realize that. The 360 version is just releasing later

 

[mmntech]

Assassin's Creed IV looks about the same on PS4 as it does on PC. It's a big leap from the Xbox 360/PS4 but the same kind of quality us PC gamers have been used to for a few years now.

 

[Lil Frier]

Titanfall is on the 360 as well.

It is going to be a little bit till we see a next gen game that does come out for the PC as well. Outside of exclusives, this entire year will probably be cross gen titles.

The Division is expected to release this year (though it's not guaranteed), and it's only on the new consoles and PC. It's going to be what I watch out for as the first game to really get my attention with its visuals.

 

[futurefields]

We haven't seen a next-gen only game yet

Knack, Killzone Shadowfall, Forza 5, Ryse, etc...

maybe you forgot about those heh

 

[tential]

Assassin's Creed IV looks about the same on PS4 as it does on PC. It's a big leap from the Xbox 360/PS4 but the same kind of quality us PC gamers have been used to for a few years now.

Considering that benchmarks show that GTX 770 doesn't offer much more performance than a GTX 660 and that GPU utilization isn't very high, it seems AC4 isn't making remotely close to full use of the PC. It looks the same because the PC version is crippled.

Doesn't look like the game is very well optimized for PC at all.

 

[Fire&Blood]

The Division is expected to release this year (though it's not guaranteed), and it's only on the new consoles and PC. It's going to be what I watch out for as the first game to really get my attention with its visuals.

Yeah it caught my eye as well. I liked what I saw because the quality was pretty much the same for everything on the screen. Some tech demos showcase a sci fi environment because comparisons won't be as harsh or they focus on a certain thing, for example wall textures while ground, vehicles or water are nowhere near in terms of quality.

I'm curious how efficient Snowdrop is and how well the latest consoles could handle Crysis. The ending of recent Cryengine demo (starts with a Ryse: Son of Rome showcase) renders a environment very similar to the Division at the same, if not higher level of quality.

 

[HeXen]

Next gen is a marketing term. Technically it means the next stage of development which is not a present tense meaning. You develop next generation but upon release becomes current generation so yes no one will see next ten until it's current gen or a viewable preview of what's to come.
PS4 and One is a current generation of gaming. Anyone can use "next-gen" to mean whatever they want. To most elitists here, it seems to mean their high end PC hardware even though next gen hardware will probably have features current gen hardware does not.

The thread looks like it was baited, hooked and being reeled in.

 

[mmntech]

Considering that benchmarks show that GTX 770 doesn't offer much more performance than a GTX 660 and that GPU utilization isn't very high, it seems AC4 isn't making remotely close to full use of the PC. It looks the same because the PC version is crippled.

Was the only game I could think of that I've seen on both platforms. The engine Ubisoft uses isn't optimized for PC so it runs horribly laggy.

 

[Subyman]

Knack, Killzone Shadowfall, Forza 5, Ryse, etc...

maybe you forgot about those heh

Sure, but they were all created without a definitive console spec. It will be a year or more before we see games designed for the new system from the beginning of development with known hardware specs and mature tools.

 

[WaitingForNehalem]

The Division looks incredible. BF4 is kinda next gen. I'm still blown away by how amazing it looks and the attention to details.

 

[HeXen]

Games always look better each year regardless of platform. Who would have thought it.

 

[norseamd]

so what is being released as far as rpgs

 

[gorcorps]

Knack, Killzone Shadowfall, Forza 5, Ryse, etc...

maybe you forgot about those heh

yes... yes I did

Except for Knack. I remembered that one but don't consider it one of the big name games

 

[futurefields]

yes... yes I did

Except for Knack. I remembered that one but don't consider it one of the big name games

It's not very popular, but it is a PS4 exclusive designed by the guy who designed the PS4 (Mark Cerny)

 

[vanguard27]

Yeah it caught my eye as well. I liked what I saw because the quality was pretty much the same for everything on the screen. Some tech demos showcase a sci fi environment because comparisons won't be as harsh or they focus on a certain thing, for example wall textures while ground, vehicles or water are nowhere near in terms of quality.

I'm curious how efficient Snowdrop is and how well the latest consoles could handle Crysis. The ending of recent Cryengine demo (starts with a Ryse: Son of Rome showcase) renders a environment very similar to the Division at the same, if not higher level of quality.

Division,watch dogs,the crew,far cry 4 are among the one which made me hooked up into the topic. For EA, any games using frostbite 3 engine is being called as next gen game. Think of bf4, NFS rival maybe? I think we can pretty much level the expectation now. Ubisoft's promising so much on that fact so let's see what they come up with. Only if crysis 3 were released now people would've already started calling it next gen-ish. It just seems like some marketing strategy and release timeline now.

 

[mmntech]

so what is being released as far as rpgs

Not much yet. A new Dragon Age, TES Online, and FFXIV Online: A Realm Reborn are due out this year. There's also a game Ubisoft is working on called Child of Light. I don't know much about it though. IGN has a Mario & Luigi game listed for Wii U as well.

South Park: The Stick of Truth is coming out next month. Looks like it's going to be awesome, but it's not available on the new consoles. It is available on Steam though.

 

[StrangerGuy]

I'm not buying new GPUs just to max out shitty optimized console ports. If anything the graphical quality to GPU power ratio has actually regressed over the past few years and "enthusiasts" are too busy engaging in NV vs AMD flame wars to see the underlying problem.

 

[cmdrdredd]

We haven't seen a next-gen only game yet, so right now we've only been seeing stuff designed to be ported. Next month we'll see Titanfall on the XB-one and Infamous on the PS4 which will be the first big name games that have been designed for next-gen only.

Titanfall is an Xbox360 game too.

The Division looks incredible. BF4 is kinda next gen. I'm still blown away by how amazing it looks and the attention to details.

Unfortunately for BF4, Crysis 3 came first and still looks superior on a technical level. Foliage, textures, character models all better IMO. The game being kind of lame though...meh I had fun with it.

 

[sxr7171]

I'm not buying new GPUs just to max out shitty optimized console ports. If anything the graphical quality to GPU power ratio has actually regressed over the past few years and "enthusiasts" are too busy engaging in NV vs AMD flame wars to see the underlying problem.

Well that's just how it is law of diminishing returns and all. We are maybe 80% of the way to cinematic prerendered quality and that last 20% is going to require exponential gains in gpu performance.

But I have to say BF4 on ultra and resolution scaling at 140% looks amazing. At 200% breathtaking but runs at 16 fps. Sure the difference between 140 and 200 is subjectively small. Smaller than the difference between 100 and 135 even.

I'm thankful for what high end PCs can produce these days. AA is good enough that shimmering textures while present are pretty rare and I can always spot them.

For me as I've posted in another thread the number one issue I have with modern gaming is the completely unnatural lighting and contrast. Some parts are so dark as to be painful to play and others are so bright that they hurt my eyes. The exaggeration of contrast is a scourge in modern games.

 

[HeXen]

I'm still impressed with the old consoles considering the hardware. Like the water in GTA 5 on PS3 is amazing, nice waves and when they crash into the rocks they whoosh up into the air. I haven't seen PC games do much with water, Crysis 1 looked good but the waves and how it crashes against surfaces sucked. Even the stormy weather in GTA 5 is better than most every game I've played. Stalker COP's weather wasn't too bad.