Whats after 5820K on the 2011-3 platform ?

[sidrockrulz]

Hello All,

Been in the process of doing a PC upgrade... And i'm curious to know..

1. What is coming on the 2011-3 platform for x99 after the 5820K ( Haswell E, am i right ? These always confuse me )etc were released this year ? Any clue on what its going to be called ?

2. I know Broadwell is coming out later for the 1150 socket. Any idea if it have enough lanes to support 3way SLI ? The reason i am asking is if it makes sense for me to invest in a PLX enabled Mobo.

3. Ive been reading that Skylake is coming, can some briefup the improvements/benefits of Skylake ? I know it is coming on the new 1151 socket.

4. PCIe 4.0 is coming soon.. Anyone knows when ? Any other info on this ?

Thank you for the education

 

[Lepton87]

Hello All,

Been in the process of doing a PC upgrade... And i'm curious to know..

1. What is coming on the 2011-3 platform for x99 after the 5820K ( Haswell E, am i right ? These always confuse me )etc were released this year ? Any clue on what its going to be called ?

2. I know Broadwell is coming out later for the 1150 socket. Any idea if it have enough lanes to support 3way SLI ? The reason i am asking is if it makes sense for me to invest in a PLX enabled Mobo.

3. Ive been reading that Skylake is coming, can some briefup the improvements/benefits of Skylake ? I know it is coming on the new 1151 socket.

4. PCIe 4.0 is coming soon.. Anyone knows when ? Any other info on this ?

Thank you for the education

1. Broadwell-E of course, as you answered in your second question. 3-way SLI is fine without PLX chip and even with 28 lanes CPU, just make sure your mobo supports 8x/8x/8x. PLX chip doesn't make much sense with this platform that's why I chose ROG over X99-WS. You don't need PLX chip even for 4-way SLI but you do need 40 lanes CPU. PLX chip isn't necessary in any way for SLI on this platform as opposed to mainstream platform when it's really necessary for anything beyond 2 cards.
2. Mainstream broadwell will have just 16 lanes but on a mobo with a PLX chip you can easily have 3-way SLI with very little performance penalty. It's going to be 16x(plx)/16x(plx)/8xnative. I had a Asus Maximus IV with 2600K with NF200 on board (PCI-E 2.0 equivalent of PLX) and the performance penalty was very minuscule compared to native implementation. Those chips really work wonders for CPUs with few PCI-E lanes.

 

[sidrockrulz]

Broadwell-E of course, as you answered in your second question.

So,,, Broadwell-E is for the 2011-3 and Broadwell-K for the 1150 ?

3-way SLI is fine without PLX chip and even with 28 lanes CPU, just make sure your mobo supports 8x/8x/8x

What do you mean... the Z97 Mobo without a PLX can support x8x8x8 ? Can you name a couple ?

ROG over X99-WS

ROG which one ?

 

[sidrockrulz]

You don't need PLX chip even for 4-way SLI but you do need 40 lanes CPU.

True... But all 40 lane CPUs are x99 5930K and up at the moment , Yes ?

Do you know if Broadwell is bringing 40 Lanes to the party ?

Mainstream broadwell will have just 16 lanes but on a mobo with a PLX chip you can easily have 3-way SLI with very little performance penalty. It's going to be 16x(plx)/16x(plx)/8xnative.

So Broadwell is not going to have 28/40 lanes anytime soon.. And so i need a PLX chip for a Z97 Mobo for 3 way GPU, Yes ?

 

[III-V]

So,,, Broadwell-E is for the 2011-3 and Broadwell-K for the 1150 ?

Yep.

And honestly, you don't really need to worry about lanes:
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GTX_980_PCI-Express_Scaling/21.html

 

[sidrockrulz]

And honestly, you don't really need to worry about lanes:
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/N...caling/21.html

But wouldnt I need atleast 40 lanes ( Which the Z97 board without PLX will not support ) for 3 way SLI ?

You need a minimum of x8x8x8 for a 3 way SLI, Without the PLX chip, it would have to be x8x8x4.. and x4 does not support 3Way SLI...

Correct me if i'm wrong..

 

[Lepton87]

True... But all 40 lane CPUs are x99 5930K and up at the moment , Yes ?

Do you know if Broadwell is bringing 40 Lanes to the party ?



So Broadwell is not going to have 28/40 lanes anytime soon.. And so i need a PLX chip for a Z97 Mobo for 3 way GPU, Yes ?

Mainstream Broadwell-K will still have just 16 lanes you will have to wait for enthusiast Broadwell-E to have over 16 lanes. Broadwell-E will physically feature 40 lanes, Intel will probably keep the segmentation and also release 28 lanes version. For a mainstream platform that is Broadwell-K for socket 1150 you need a motherboard with a PLX chip for Tri-SLI.

But wouldnt I need atleast 40 lanes ( Which the Z97 board without PLX will not support ) for 3 way SLI ?

You need a minimum of x8x8x8 for a 3 way SLI, Without the PLX chip, it would have to be x8x8x4.. and x4 does not support 3Way SLI...

Correct me if i'm wrong..

Yes, you are wrong.(but mostly right) For Tri SLI you need either a 28 lanes CPU for socket 2011 or a motherboard with a PLX chip for socket 1150. You only need a 40 lanes CPU for Quad SLI for TRI-SLI 28 lanes CPU is sufficient for 8x/8x/8x configuration or 16 lanes CPU with a PLX chip and the mobo must explicitly list the support for TRI SLI, unlike AMD's CF, nVidia will enable SLI only on certified boards, it's just a way for NV to fleece their customers and make more money.