Whats a worthwhile best value upgrade from a 7950GT?

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hooflung

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I would get a 8800GT or an 8800GS. Hell even a 8800GTS 320 for the money spent is well worth it. I wouldn't buy anything over those currently. The 9 series will probably loose their performance rankings over the lower 8800 models and near-to-GT rankings when the unified drivers come out and are WHQL.
 
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Originally posted by: hooflung
I would get a 8800GT or an 8800GS. Hell even a 8800GTS 320 for the money spent is well worth it. I wouldn't buy anything over those currently. The 9 series will probably loose their performance rankings over the lower 8800 models and near-to-GT rankings when the unified drivers come out and are WHQL.
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Originally posted by: hooflung
I would get a 8800GT or an 8800GS. Hell even a 8800GTS 320 for the money spent is well worth it. I wouldn't buy anything over those currently. The 9 series will probably loose their performance rankings over the lower 8800 models and near-to-GT rankings when the unified drivers come out and are WHQL.
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I agree with you, but not over the 8800 GTS 320. The lack of ram on this card it doesn't make it a good deal right now in terms of performance.

 
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piotrgurin

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I forgot to mention, my monitor is 1920 x 1200 and i'm looking to spend 100 - 150 usd.

you guys think 8800gt or gs over 9600gt?
 
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Originally posted by: piotrgurin
I forgot to mention, my monitor is 1920 x 1200 and i'm looking to spend 100 - 150 usd.

you guys think 8800gt or gs over 9600gt?
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For that resolution you need some real muscles. The best card would be the 8800 GT, but you can't find it in that price range so go for the 9600 GT.
 
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Go for the 8800GT. I somehow confused myself into thinking the 9600GT was better. So I bought it! It does fine at 1600x900, but not to many games are playable at 1920x1080. Do not get the GS.

If you don't want to spring for the full price of an 8800gt, check out open box items at newegg.
 
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Lithan

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Yeah, spring for the 8800gt. The 9600gt runs all my shit max @ 1680x1050... but some games are right at the bottom of where I like fps... so @ 1920x1200 it wouldn't.
 
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Originally posted by: piotrgurin
I forgot to mention, my monitor is 1920 x 1200 and i'm looking to spend 100 - 150 usd.

you guys think 8800gt or gs over 9600gt?
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You are probably better off with a 8800gts 512mb.
 
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Originally posted by: error8
Originally posted by: hooflung
I would get a 8800GT or an 8800GS. Hell even a 8800GTS 320 for the money spent is well worth it. I wouldn't buy anything over those currently. The 9 series will probably loose their performance rankings over the lower 8800 models and near-to-GT rankings when the unified drivers come out and are WHQL.
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I agree with you, but not over the 8800 GTS 320. The lack of ram on this card it doesn't make it a good deal right now in terms of performance.
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The sweet spot seems to be little above 320mb currently even with AA @ 1680x1050 reolution. I agree though if you are on a bigger monitor you should go with something more powerful. 8800gts would be better. Maybe overclock the 8800gt if you are low on funds.
 
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Originally posted by: Azn
Originally posted by: piotrgurin
I forgot to mention, my monitor is 1920 x 1200 and i'm looking to spend 100 - 150 usd.

you guys think 8800gt or gs over 9600gt?
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You are probably better off with a 8800gts 512mb.
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thats the better card right?
than an 8800GT?
I'm asking becasue Fry's has both the Alpha Dog 8800GT as well as the BFG 8800GTS 512 on sale this weekend for the same price.

the Ad says BFG 8800GTS OC 512 in store for 254 after rebate 219

is this the card I should get or the XFX Alpha Dog 8800GT for same price after rebate.

 
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If it's same price you should definitely go with 8800gts. It is faster especially if you are trying using a 24"+ monitor. I think you still need a little more power and bandwidth but still it would hold you over.
 
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What games do you currently play? What are you needing the video card for? (If I missed the part where you mentioned that, sorry)

I just got my 8800gts OC from newegg for $229 - $30 MIR with a free game yesterday. I am one of the folks that really like Crysis and COD4 (at 16/10) though.
 
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Anything from this current generation is better. I went from the 256MB version of your card OCed to near 7900 GTX speeds, to a NON-OCed HD 3850 256MB. The 3850 won at stock speed. When I OCed the 3850 to 3870 speeds it kicked the crap out of it. And we all know how the 8800GT fairs against the 3870 so you simply can't go wrong with an update from this generation. Even a 9600 GT will be a good upgrade.

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Performance wise, I was able to run games at 1680x1050 with 2xAA no problem on the 3850. I had trouble on the OCed 7950GT. Games I played were Titan Quest, Oblivion, and HL2 Orange Box.

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I saw your second post about the cards. Here's a review involving the 8800GS, 3850, 3870, and 9600GT: Text. If it's accurate, the 9600GT is your best bet.
 
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Lithan

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do NOT get a 8800gs. At the res you run, some of todays games are unplayable. It just does not have the memory capacity or bandwidth to run resos above 1600x1200. It struggles in many games with 1280x1024 if you turn AA on. 9600gt will run your reso fine, but it wont run max settings and 8800gt/8800gts may and when they cant they will still be noticable improvements over the 9600gt.
 
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Originally posted by: Lithan
do NOT get a 8800gs. At the res you run, some of todays games are unplayable. It just does not have the memory capacity or bandwidth to run resos above 1600x1200. It struggles in many games with 1280x1024 if you turn AA on. 9600gt will run your reso fine, but it wont run max settings and 8800gt/8800gts may and when they cant they will still be noticable improvements over the 9600gt.
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So not true. At 1280x1024 it is perfect even with AA in any of the games available today. @ 1600x1200 with AA it is limiting but let's take out that 4x AA and go for the full stretch to 1920x1200 without AA then it is faster than 9600gt.

8800gts would be the best bet. Maybe SLI 2 9600gt if you have the motherboard and power supply.
 
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Schfifty Five

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8800GT or 8800GTS if you can spend a little more.

Either way, those are probably your best value for performance options right now.
 
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Lithan

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Originally posted by: Azn
Originally posted by: Lithan
do NOT get a 8800gs. At the res you run, some of todays games are unplayable. It just does not have the memory capacity or bandwidth to run resos above 1600x1200. It struggles in many games with 1280x1024 if you turn AA on. 9600gt will run your reso fine, but it wont run max settings and 8800gt/8800gts may and when they cant they will still be noticable improvements over the 9600gt.
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So not true. At 1280x1024 it is perfect even with AA in any of the games available today. @ 1600x1200 with AA it is limiting but let's take out that 4x AA and go for the full stretch to 1920x1200 without AA then it is faster than 9600gt.

8800gts would be the best bet. Maybe SLI 2 9600gt if you have the motherboard and power supply.
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Ok, I exaggerated. But the fact remains. He's not going to be able to run high shaders @ his reso anyway, so it'd be unwise to pick a card that struggles as reso's scale over a card that may struggle as shaders scale. I dont know anyone that'd rather run 1024x768 @ high shader than 1920x1200 @ low shader. Since 8800gs and 9600gt are pretty much the same pricepoint and he's running a high resolution monitor, the 8800gs which even you admit loses as resos scale up would not be a smart buy. Either way, he probably would be MUCH happier with a 8800gt or 512gts because his resolution is right where they pull sizably away from the 9600gt in many games. But if he can't spare that $50, there's no doubt that 9600gt is a better card for his situation.
 
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Originally posted by: Lithan
Originally posted by: Azn
Originally posted by: Lithan
do NOT get a 8800gs. At the res you run, some of todays games are unplayable. It just does not have the memory capacity or bandwidth to run resos above 1600x1200. It struggles in many games with 1280x1024 if you turn AA on. 9600gt will run your reso fine, but it wont run max settings and 8800gt/8800gts may and when they cant they will still be noticable improvements over the 9600gt.
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So not true. At 1280x1024 it is perfect even with AA in any of the games available today. @ 1600x1200 with AA it is limiting but let's take out that 4x AA and go for the full stretch to 1920x1200 without AA then it is faster than 9600gt.

8800gts would be the best bet. Maybe SLI 2 9600gt if you have the motherboard and power supply.
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Ok, I exaggerated. But the fact remains. He's not going to be able to run high shaders @ his reso anyway, so it'd be unwise to pick a card that struggles as reso's scale over a card that may struggle as shaders scale. I dont know anyone that'd rather run 1024x768 @ high shader than 1920x1200 @ low shader. Since 8800gs and 9600gt are pretty much the same pricepoint and he's running a high resolution monitor, the 8800gs which even you admit loses as resos scale up would not be a smart buy. Either way, he probably would be MUCH happier with a 8800gt or 512gts because his resolution is right where they pull sizably away from the 9600gt in many games. But if he can't spare that $50, there's no doubt that 9600gt is a better card for his situation.
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Who cares. :roll: @ 1920 resolution you won't be turning AA with a 9600gt because it will be struggling in many titles even without AA. These 2 cards do the exact same thing currently have similar performance. One is better at AA the other is better for future shader intensive or texture heavy games. :light:

Even 8800gts will struggle in some games at that resolution. A SLI system would be better.
 
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