<< Gee, I don't want to start a flame war, but you say "Comparable to the gf3 ti500 in gaming"? I'd like to believe that but ....Didn't this card disappoint with its 3d acceleration abilities? Anyway, sure would like to be proven wrong here.
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Depends what you consider a disappointment, the original drivers were quite poor but they've imporved tremendously since then. The R8500's 3D feature set is certainly superior to that of the GF3, and it'll likely outperform the Ti500 in future games owing to it's better T&L performance. That said, in current games I'd probably put the R8500 as being slightly slower then the Ti500, though definitely faster then the Ti200.
It's a nicely well rounded card, better 2D and FSAA image quality then nVidia can boast, along with a better 3D feature set, better DVD playback capabilities, excellent TV-Output quality, and you get HydraVision, and TV-Out by default.
The GF4's do allow for multimonitor output, and nVidia's multimonitor implementation has improved to the point wherein I'd consider it on-par with ATi implementation. The GF4 also offers superior 3D performance over the R8500. In most other respects the R8500 is better though, and it's certainly a more well rounded card.
The GF4 Ti4200 looks like it should be available in late May for prices around $200.
The R8500 of course is already available in numerous variations, with pricing as low $105 for the R8500LE/64MB. $125 for the R8500LE/128MB, and $140-145 for the R8500. The All In Wonder R8500DV is available at $230-250.
The price on the R8500 seems to be dropping rapidly though.
Either way, GF4 or R8500... both are nice cards and have their advantages depending upon what your looking for.