Whats a dirt farmer?

[CZroe]

You typically don't hear a dairyman or cattle rancher called a farmer.

Except that stereotypical farmers very often do both and they do go well together (need pasture).

 

[zinfamous]

Except that stereotypical farmers very often do both and they do go well together (need pasture).

really? Those are 2 very different cattle stocks, aren't they?

 

[MrCassdin]

Indeed they are different but lots of farmers also "keep cows" (no one in the mid-west ever called it "ranching" when I was a kid).

 

[CZroe]

really? Those are 2 very different cattle stocks, aren't they?

I said "stereotypical," not typical. That means the idyllic farmhouse farmer pictured on your romantic food product advertisements and western movies. They all have a stable, a chicken coup, a dog, a horse, a cow, etc.

Also, my uncle claimed to work at a "dairy farm" in San Diego.

http://www.dfamilk.com/

 

[Carson Dyle]

Except that stereotypical farmers very often do both and they do go well together (need pasture).

You mean like "Old McDonald"? Not many of them left, except for hobby farms these days.

 

[CZroe]

You mean like "Old McDonald"? Not many of them left, except for hobby farms these days.

Exactly. That's the "stereotype" I was talking about. His "farm" had cows and chickens, did it not?

 

[zinfamous]

I said "stereotypical," not typical. That means the idyllic farmhouse farmer pictured on your romantic food product advertisements and western movies. They all have a stable, a chicken coup, a dog, a horse, a cow, etc.

Also, my uncle claimed to work at a "dairy farm" in San Diego.

http://www.dfamilk.com/

ok...but you said "stereotypical very often do both," and basically agree that you are talking about a fantasy farmer. ...I mean, what's the relevance of "Old MacDonald" fantasy farmers?

And, fwiw, chickens and cows aren't actually unusual, as far as I know. Yes, smaller farms of the past, but that seems normal for a dairy farmer. Beef cattle, though....I think they always specialize in beef stock. no chickens or other livestock. So much grass or feed required for the beef.

 

[MrCassdin]

Every farmer will have some amount of chickens, because, well... because.

 

[CZroe]

ok...but you said "stereotypical very often do both," and basically agree that you are talking about a fantasy farmer. ...I mean, what's the relevance of "Old MacDonald" fantasy farmers?

And, fwiw, chickens and cows aren't actually unusual, as far as I know. Yes, smaller farms of the past, but that seems normal for a dairy farmer. Beef cattle, though....I think they always specialize in beef stock. no chickens or other livestock. So much grass or feed required for the beef.

That has nothing to do with it. He said that you don't "hear" them called farmers and yet you do all the time. That's like saying that you never heard that black people disproportionately enjoy fried chicken and watermelon just because it's an untrue stereotype.

You "hear" it all the time regardless of reality, like in the Old McDonald song.

Now, what about the DFA link I posted? It looks like "dairymen" ARE known as "dairy farmers" after all!

 

[ElFenix]

whenever i use terms like dirt farmer or farming rocks, i use it to mean someone scratching a bare subsistence out of the land.




as for farm vs. ranch, one of harry turtledove's books has a passage of roosevelt in montana that goes something along the lines of: "he had some chickens, pigs, and goats, a few vegetables growing in a garden, and a hundred head of cattle out on the pasture. back east it would have been a farm, but here they called it a ranch"

 

[Drako]

Dirt farmers grow vegetables.

Dairy Farmers grow milk.

Chicken Farmers grow chickens.

Hog Farmers grow pork.

Salmon Farmers grow salmon.

etc.

 

[mmntech]

I've always understood that a dirt farmer is the same as a rube or country hick.

 

[Markbnj]

You sure do have a purdy mouth. :wub:
I was referring to your lack of knowledge to do those physical jobs.

And why would you assume any such thing? I've worked as a deckhand, a roustabout, a truck driver, a landscaper, a furniture mover, and a few other things. I know my way around callouses pal.

 

[MongGrel]

You typically don't hear a dairyman or cattle rancher called a farmer.

Of course you do, I grew up with a farmily that are largely Dairy Farmers.

But they also did dirt like corn and soybeans, and raised cattle on the side, while having dairy cows.

Many of us would go in to buy a cow for food in the family that were relatives and freeze it for later on slaughter.

Was just how life worked.

You don't seem to know a lot about farming from your tone myself.

 

[dave_the_nerd]

And why would you assume any such thing? I've worked as a deckhand, a roustabout, a truck driver, a landscaper, a furniture mover, and a few other things. I know my way around callouses pal.

Automatic defensiveness is a sign of deep-seated feelings of inadequacy.

 

[MongGrel]

Automatic defensiveness is a sign of deep-seated feelings of inadequacy.

I'll Bonk instead of Boink in this case.

 

[Markbnj]

Automatic defensiveness is a sign of deep-seated feelings of inadequacy.

Or even really shallow ones.

 

[SeaSerpent]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBuJB218UvU

 

[Jerem]

I haven't heard the term often, but when I have I took it to be referring to the farmers paid by the government not to grow crops on their land.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

And why would you assume any such thing? I've worked as a deckhand, a roustabout, a truck driver, a landscaper, a furniture mover, and a few other things. I know my way around callouses pal.

Labeling all physical jobs as equivalent to the ones you mentioned is rather short sighted, no? Is programming, system admin, IT support, electrical engineering all interchangeable? Perhaps your assumed superiority is the result of too small a sample size. Would not jobs that require both highly trained mental and physical skills be viewed as more challenging than those that only require one?

 

[solsa]

What about the people who shower during work? Women with web cam shows are part of the labor force.

a unique viewpoint

 

[Markbnj]

Labeling all physical jobs as equivalent to the ones you mentioned is rather short sighted, no? Is programming, system admin, IT support, electrical engineering all interchangeable? Perhaps your assumed superiority is the result of too small a sample size. Would not jobs that require both highly trained mental and physical skills be viewed as more challenging than those that only require one?

Indeed, probably why I washed out of fighter pilot school.

 

[brianmanahan]

Indeed they are different but lots of farmers also "keep cows" (no one in the mid-west ever called it "ranching" when I was a kid).

nobody does nowadays either