what's a decent but not too expensive T1 router?

[mcveigh]

I usually let the ISP provide it but I thought I might try to save some money on this project.

it's a fractional T1 512 u/d but I might have to go up to 768. anyways the ISP wants to charge $50/month for soemthign from netopia.

any other reccomendations?

 

[ScottMac]

Adtran 3200

Similar in features & functions to a Cisco 1700 (commands too), but cheaper (and it's a decent router).

(www.adtran.com)

Good Luck

Scott

 

[Soybomb]

Maybe like a cisco 1600 series could be good and cheap for you? I'm not all that familiar with routers though so its just what I've seen used successfully for that before

 

[reicherb]

I've been happy with our Adtrans.

 

[cmetz]

Allied Telesis (Telesyn in the US) also makes access routers that are likely to work pretty well (I haven't used those products from them personally, but other products of theirs have always been surprisingly solid, especially for the cost).

Really seriously, though, a used low-end Cisco (1700, 2610, etc.) can be gotten cheaply - less than $1k (a quick EBay search says maybe $600ish). By definition, if you have a T1, you're paying an interesting chunk of change for that service - probably circa $500/month for the circuit, plus ISP charges, and you're probably paying $1k or more for the install (that, or it's being amortized into higher monthly fees). Is it worth risking that service working to save a few hundred bucks on the router? I don't think so.

I don't particularly like the Netopia units, though, I'd avoid them. You seem to have to reboot them to make any configuration change, and their DoA and longer-term failure rates are very high. I put more confidence in an EBay special Cisco 2610's reliability than a brand new Netopia. (my experience here is primarily with Covad-sold SDSL Netopia units, but this appears to be a systemic problem)

 

[mcveigh]

I have to get the details b/c right now they have 17 voice lines with them, I hate going back and forth between the techs and the marketing people,

I'll check into the adtran, I hadn't heard of them before

 

[mboy]

Originally posted by: cmetz
Allied Telesis (Telesyn in the US) also makes access routers that are likely to work pretty well (I haven't used those products from them personally, but other products of theirs have always been surprisingly solid, especially for the cost).

Really seriously, though, a used low-end Cisco (1700, 2610, etc.) can be gotten cheaply - less than $1k (a quick EBay search says maybe $600ish). By definition, if you have a T1, you're paying an interesting chunk of change for that service - probably circa $500/month for the circuit, plus ISP charges, and you're probably paying $1k or more for the install (that, or it's being amortized into higher monthly fees). Is it worth risking that service working to save a few hundred bucks on the router? I don't think so.

I don't particularly like the Netopia units, though, I'd avoid them. You seem to have to reboot them to make any configuration change, and their DoA and longer-term failure rates are very high. I put more confidence in an EBay special Cisco 2610's reliability than a brand new Netopia. (my experience here is primarily with Covad-sold SDSL Netopia units, but this appears to be a systemic problem)

No problems here with a Netopia T1 router, no reboots either after config unless when configuring the DLCI.

 

[WannaFly]

I second(third?) the netopia routers, i love the one i have.

 

[cmetz]

mcveigh, if memory serves, Adtran is quite respected as a CSU manufacturer.

 

[mcveigh]

I can't get an answer from the marketing people. they say they will provide a netopia 5100 if requested. according to netopia's site it has no T1 capable modem in it.