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Czar

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: Czar
my opinion is that the government is doing a job for the people, and because of that nothing done by the government should be shreded, safety through trancparency

but thats just me
Thats a good idea, lets put our nuclear launch codes on display in the smithsonian.
Sweet! ;)


Could you imagine if every government document was saved, stored for public display, and never recycled? Forget that it would take 100 Pentagon-sized buildings, I'm more concerned about how quickly all the forests in the world would be depleted! :Q

And all that for tinfoilism and bipartisan bickering? No thank you. Government in America does not exist so the mindless sheeple of Republicans and Democrats can have their pathetic petty little squabble.

its already there, in paper, and ever heard of a computer?


newsflash!!!! not every government document is on a computer
ever heard of a scanner?

 

Czar

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: Czar
my opinion is that the government is doing a job for the people, and because of that nothing done by the government should be shreded, safety through trancparency

but thats just me


Thats a good idea, lets put our nuclear launch codes on display in the smithsonian.

thats military information, not the same

it is "done by the government" and apparently, "nothing done by the government should be shredded"

so do you want alot of secrecy and coverups from your own government?
 

palehorse

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Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: Czar
my opinion is that the government is doing a job for the people, and because of that nothing done by the government should be shreded, safety through trancparency

but thats just me


Thats a good idea, lets put our nuclear launch codes on display in the smithsonian.

thats military information, not the same

it is "done by the government" and apparently, "nothing done by the government should be shredded"

so do you want alot of secrecy and coverups from your own government?
secrecy? yes. We do not want our enemies, and we DO have many of them regardless of how little faith most of you have in that concept, to know everything about our operations, vulnerabilities, and capabilities. So yes, secrecy is vital to our survival.

coverups of illegal activity? no. duh. But the base desire is actually to hope that there are no illegal activities which necessitate being "covered up" in the first place.

last, this entire thread is trollbait garbage of the worst kind and shame on the mods who didnt lock it yet.
 

1EZduzit

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Feb 4, 2002
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Originally posted by: senseamp
Getting ready for Dem control and subpoena power.


Coincidental?

Must be because we all know this administration would never lie about anything important, would they?
 

imported_Aelius

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Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: senseamp
Getting ready for Dem control and subpoena power.


Coincidental?

Must be because we all know this administration would never lie about anything important, would they?

Nah we can trust them....

"We don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud." -Condi
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: palehorse74

secrecy? yes. We do not want our enemies, and we DO have many of them regardless of how little faith most of you have in that concept, to know everything about our operations, vulnerabilities, and capabilities. So yes, secrecy is vital to our survival.

coverups of illegal activity? no. duh. But the base desire is actually to hope that there are no illegal activities which necessitate being "covered up" in the first place.

last, this entire thread is trollbait garbage of the worst kind and shame on the mods who didnt lock it yet.

Thanks for continuing to bump it! :thumbsup:


Now, go on back to your rwingnut circle-jerk over Kerry's remarks taken out of context.
 

palehorse

Lifer
Dec 21, 2005
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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: palehorse74

secrecy? yes. We do not want our enemies, and we DO have many of them regardless of how little faith most of you have in that concept, to know everything about our operations, vulnerabilities, and capabilities. So yes, secrecy is vital to our survival.

coverups of illegal activity? no. duh. But the base desire is actually to hope that there are no illegal activities which necessitate being "covered up" in the first place.

last, this entire thread is trollbait garbage of the worst kind and shame on the mods who didnt lock it yet.

Thanks for continuing to bump it! :thumbsup:

Now, go on back to your rwingnut circle-jerk over Kerry's remarks taken out of context.
Like I said in the other thread: show us the supposed context or take your political beatings like men. A nice video on youtube will work nicely.

GL!
 

Al Neri

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Jan 12, 2002
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Originally posted by: conjur
http://www.wonkette.com/politics/dick-cheney/shreddin-with-dick-211028.php
Spotted on 10/19, by an eagle-eyed Wonkette reader: The Mid-Atlantic Shredding Services truck making its way up to the Cheney compound at the Naval Observatory.

Fun fact: Mid-Atlantic Shredding Services has been contracted by the Secret Service for our Executive Branch?s record-not-keeping needs.

The present contractor providing Pickup & Destruction of Sensitive Waste Material services is Mid Atlantic Shredding Services and the current rate is $0.095 cents per lbs.

Seems DICK is looking to do some housecleaning. Maybe he's just trying to do his part to help with paper recycling.


Hmmm....probably not.


i still see you suck at life conjur!
 

AndrewR

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: Aelius
Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: Lothar
Originally posted by: palehorse74
Originally posted by: Pens1566
Originally posted by: Pastore
So, what should be done with top secret classified information? Just curious.

Usually burned, and not by an outside contractor like that.
it's usually shredded AND burned.

Newsflash: the Federal government destroys sensitive and classified information every day, everywhere, even *gasp* at the whitehouse.

So outside contractors are able to view top secret classified information before shredding?

I sincerely hope that's not how our government destroys classified information.

At least shred it before it leaves the office, not give it an outside company to shred it.

Do you even understand how contractors, the government, and security clearances work?

Since you obviously don't then I'll give you a hint, contractors can get a security clearance.

I held such a post before. I worked daily with people with the highest levels of clearance in government.

Some of them I wouldn't trust with a pencil. So please don't make me laugh. Just because someone has clearance doesn't mean they aren't morons or... well not very nice people with fairly low morals.

Where? What clearance levels? What programs did you have access to?

Top Secret (and even Secret) material is not given to shredding services. These documents were probably For Official Use Only and Privacy Act information. Actual classified, as is mentioned above, is typically shredded but also can be burned or pulverized. There's a few other methods, but they aren't as common.

Also, it's not shredded THEN burned. The shred is so fine that it's almost like dust these days. Shred bags are tossed in the trash.

We have shredder services visit our base nearly daily, picking up trash cans and trash cans full of documents (they typically shred on site in the back of a large truck -- quite nifty).
 

Termagant

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Shredding up all the rough drafts of his glorious memoirs. The chapter on Iraq is still up in the air.
 

imported_Aelius

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Originally posted by: AndrewR
Originally posted by: Aelius
Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: Lothar
Originally posted by: palehorse74
Originally posted by: Pens1566
Originally posted by: Pastore
So, what should be done with top secret classified information? Just curious.

Usually burned, and not by an outside contractor like that.
it's usually shredded AND burned.

Newsflash: the Federal government destroys sensitive and classified information every day, everywhere, even *gasp* at the whitehouse.

So outside contractors are able to view top secret classified information before shredding?

I sincerely hope that's not how our government destroys classified information.

At least shred it before it leaves the office, not give it an outside company to shred it.

Do you even understand how contractors, the government, and security clearances work?

Since you obviously don't then I'll give you a hint, contractors can get a security clearance.

I held such a post before. I worked daily with people with the highest levels of clearance in government.

Some of them I wouldn't trust with a pencil. So please don't make me laugh. Just because someone has clearance doesn't mean they aren't morons or... well not very nice people with fairly low morals.

Where? What clearance levels? What programs did you have access to?

Top Secret (and even Secret) material is not given to shredding services. These documents were probably For Official Use Only and Privacy Act information. Actual classified, as is mentioned above, is typically shredded but also can be burned or pulverized. There's a few other methods, but they aren't as common.

Also, it's not shredded THEN burned. The shred is so fine that it's almost like dust these days. Shred bags are tossed in the trash.

We have shredder services visit our base nearly daily, picking up trash cans and trash cans full of documents (they typically shred on site in the back of a large truck -- quite nifty).

Where? Ontario government.

What clearance levels? CPIC 1/2/3 (What's CPIC 3? Lets just say very few people have that level of access.)

What programs? Public Safety.

All other details are not necessary and none of your business to know.