What would you guys recommend for STALKER: COP mods?

[AFurryReptile]

This will be my first playthrough.

 

[sash1]

stalker complete: http://www.moddb.com/mods/call-of-pripyat-complete

 

[Dankk]

http://www.moddb.com/mods/call-of-pripyat-complete

Should be all you need. There might be some others, but the Complete mod is generally the most recommended and well-known. It fixes and improves just about everything while leaving the core experience untouched.

There are some try-hards on this forum who will tell you that the Complete mod makes the game too easy, but unless you're a god, it should make no difference. STALKER is a notoriously challenging game regardless of mods. You can play it on master difficulty if you'd like, just be prepared to fight entire groups of bandits who are just as (if not more) powerful than you are, and prepare to get one-shot by enemies you can't even see.

Even on Very Easy difficultly, it still took me a while to buckle down and get past the beginning areas. If you've played SoC then you probably already are familiar with this information though.

Ninja edit: sash1 beat me to it

 

[NikolaeVarius]

No. Stalker Complete is too easy, it makes the game so damn casual that it makes me sad.

Misery is the only mod to get for COP these days. The perfect balance of difficulty, graphics, gameplay.

Edit:
Wait, I forgot that it was your first playthrough. Then no. First playthrough the most you should install is graphics mods and possibly a translation mod.

Atmosfear, Absolute Structures, Absolute Textures, Absolute Nature. Those are the big ones that completely revamp how the game looks and acts.

THEN you install Misery for a second playthrough.

That is THE definitive Stalker experience. Complete is a massive joke made by players who thought the base game was too hard and consolized it.

 

[stag3]

complete

 

[dust]

I recommend you uninstall the CoP and install Soc with Oblivion Lost:whiste:

 

[AFurryReptile]

No. Stalker Complete is too easy, it makes the game so damn casual that it makes me sad.

Misery is the only mod to get for COP these days. The perfect balance of difficulty, graphics, gameplay.

Edit:
Wait, I forgot that it was your first playthrough. Then no. First playthrough the most you should install is graphics mods and possibly a translation mod.

Atmosfear, Absolute Structures, Absolute Textures, Absolute Nature. Those are the big ones that completely revamp how the game looks and acts.

THEN you install Misery for a second playthrough.

That is THE definitive Stalker experience. Complete is a massive joke made by players who thought the base game was too easy and consolized it.

I'm leaning towards Misery mod. This one, alone, would handle all my graphics needs as well, correct?

I'm not one to play through a game twice, so I want to give myself the best experience on the first run. I've already played the first two STALKER games on the hard difficulty, so I'm not worried about a getting a "vanilla" experience on my first run.

I used Complete on the first two games, but found it to be rather "meh." I really like the atmosphere changes Misery seems to make to this one...

 

[marmasatt]

I just played through on Complete COP and I thought it was great and not that easy. I also played Atmosfear which is decent.

 

[AFurryReptile]

Alright, Misery mod sucks. There is no reason you should be completely exhausted every 20 steps you take; I couldn't even keep up with my squadmates because I couldn't walk. This was with NO additional weight, other than what I started with. Blowouts happen altogether too often, and there is no ammo on anything, anywhere. While realistic, sortof, this isn't fun to me.

I'll stick with Complete.

 

[NikolaeVarius]

Alright, Misery mod sucks. There is no reason you should be completely exhausted every 20 steps you take; I couldn't even keep up with my squadmates because I couldn't walk. This was with NO additional weight, other than what I started with. Blowouts happen altogether too often, and there is no ammo on anything, anywhere. While realistic, sortof, this isn't fun to me.

I'll stick with Complete.

If you are carrying more than 50% weight, then you will be extremely slow. I always carried less then 20kg on me at all times. 1 Primary Weapon (Rifle), 1 Secondary Weapon (Shotgun), 30 rounds of shotgun ammo, 3 reloads of rifle ammo, sleeping bag, a dozen cans of food, and 3 med packs. That's all you need to survive the zone. You should never need more than that because everything dies so fast, except for certain mutants.

Ammo is extremely plentiful if you actually look around for a bit, firing in 1-2 round bursts at enemies because they have the exact same amount of health as you do, so they will die as fast as you. I never ever had an issue with ammo consumption because I always conserved ammo. The bloodsucker lair was an exception and I blew through most of my ammo on that level.

Blowouts have never been an issue for me. I always quickly run from cover to cover always staying near some sort of building to avoid them. Best thing I do is simply to sleep once a day near a time when you think they will happen. If you're safe you simply wake up after a blowout.

Misery is a mod for people who really want the Stalker experience. Anything else is simply inferior, especially Complete.

 

[Stringjam]

Been playing with the Misery mod a bit, after having already played through the game once vanilla and twice with Complete.

I do agree about the stamina.....not very realistic at all. I'm not even in that great of shape and I can run for over 5 minutes with a loaded backpack.....this guy, who has undergone military training no less, can barely run 20 seconds carrying a moderately loaded pack.

Otherwise, I think it is a good "hardcore" kind of mod. Its intent is to be difficult and provide and environment of scarcity and harshness, so it accomplishes that.

 

[AFurryReptile]

Misery is a mod for people who really want the Stalker experience. Anything else is simply inferior, especially Complete.

I can't sacrifice fun for artificial difficulty.

I literally started the game as a Recon, didn't pick up any additional items. I ran to Skadvisk (or whatever the Stalker hub is called), picked up the mission to wipe out a base at midnight, teleported over there with my squad and started the mission. I could not keep up with them as they ran ahead of me because of the stupid stamina depletion. Anyone who says this is fun is a masochist.

Not sure where all the hate on Complete comes from. The changes it makes are mostly cosmetic, with just a few sensible AI changes and a few "cheat" type abilities that you can completely ignore.

 

[NikolaeVarius]

I can't sacrifice fun for artificial difficulty.

I literally started the game as a Recon, didn't pick up any additional items. I ran to Skadvisk (or whatever the Stalker hub is called), picked up the mission to wipe out a base at midnight, teleported over there with my squad and started the mission. I could not keep up with them as they ran ahead of me because of the stupid stamina depletion. Anyone who says this is fun is a masochist.

Not sure where all the hate on Complete comes from. The changes it makes are mostly cosmetic, with just a few sensible AI changes and a few "cheat" type abilities that you can completely ignore.

There is no artificial difficulty. Misery is considered the best mod for COP among the Stalker fanbase.

Once again, unload as much stuff as possible. You're carrying too much stuff. Make sure you install the patch, it tweaks the values to increase stamina regen.

Complete is a POS and always was.

http://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-misery/downloads/patch-16

 

[AFurryReptile]

Complete is a POS and always was.[/url]

You can keep saying that, but not giving any reasons gives you absolutely no credibility.

As to misery mod, I was using Patch 2 as well. Like I said, I had no additional weight other than my starting weapon and a sidearm, plus some food and kits. It definitely wasn't 50%. I almost have to wonder if it was just a bug in the mod... I literally could not run 10 steps without being out of breath.

Nevertheless, it's too hard and wasn't fun. Things took much longer than they needed to, and my time is valuable. To each their own, though.

I like the idea of Misery, but I think it's a little too punishing, and sacrifices a little too much fun for realism.

 

[stag3]

i enjoyed complete, i only wanted a graphics overhaul and it provided that, i didn't think it was to easy, but then i didnt play it on easy difficulty either.

 

[NikolaeVarius]

You can keep saying that, but not giving any reasons gives you absolutely no credibility.

As to misery mod, I was using Patch 2 as well. Like I said, I had no additional weight other than my starting weapon and a sidearm, plus some food and kits. It definitely wasn't 50%. I almost have to wonder if it was just a bug in the mod... I literally could not run 10 steps without being out of breath.

Nevertheless, it's too hard and wasn't fun. Things took much longer than they needed to, and my time is valuable. To each their own, though.

I like the idea of Misery, but I think it's a little too punishing, and sacrifices a little too much fun for realism.

Its weird because with my character, I can run for a couple of minutes without getting tired. Keep at it. No mod comes close to the awesomeness of Misery. Insane amounts of fun are to be had.

I hate Complete out of principle. Their mod for Stalker SoC was absolutely terrible. The CoP version is just other mods all jumbled together and dumbed down. AI is retarded and can't hear anything at all past like 10 meters, money flows from every single orifice, and just makes the game easier, and you have the deal with the fact that the base COP game is simply pretty easy and Complete just makes it easier.

 

[Stringjam]

I don't really have a problem with Complete, but I do agree that money and supplies flow "from every orifice." It does make the game easier.

However, if you want to approach the game from more of an "adventure" standpoint, I think Complete is just fine.

If you want to approach the game from a desperate, survivalist standpoint, than Misery seems to be great.

I find myself playing the game completely different with Misery. I'm definitely more strategic with supplies and money. AI is certainly smarter and more aggressive than Complete, which is a big improvement, IMO. I think more about which battles I want to take on, and even find myself avoiding a lot of situations when possible (especially with mutants). It requires skilled use of cover and careful planning . . . something I always look for but find lacking in so many FPS's. It makes for more of an "edge of the seat" kind of feeling.

The mod makes no pretense about making the game far more difficult, so you really can't fault it on that.

I've already beat the game 3 times on the hardest difficulty, so I was looking for something that bumped it up a notch, and Misery does a good job of it.