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What would you do?

vetteguy

Diamond Member
Here's something that happened last week, and I'm curious what other people think about the situation. I have a friend at work (well, he doesn't actually work there, but that's complicated). Anyway, he's a wannabe computer geek, and whenever I'm getting rid of something I'll try to offer it to him for sale first, just to help him out (and give him a good deal, since his wife basically won't let him spend one cent).

Anyway, I had an old 40GB Maxtor hard drive which I hadn't used in over a year. The last time I had tried it it gave me some errors, so I wasn't sure it was even good, but I told him that if he got it working he could just have it. He tried it in his computer but it was totally dead. Upon inspection, he found that something on the pcb had blown. He asked me if it was alright to call Maxtor to see if there was any possibility that it was still under warranty, and I said sure (thinking there was no way). Well, turns out it was, and they said they'd give him a brand new one. So, ok, I thought, I screwed up here, as I could have done that myself and then sold it for maybe $50. But, oh well.

Then, last week he told me he was building a new PC for his dad, and he had bought a new Western Digital 100GB with 8MB cache for that machine. Now I had a Maxtor 80GB with 2MB in my gaming rig, and since his dad was only going to use it for internet, etc, I offered him a deal: I would trade him my 80GB, the 40GB that I had gave him (since he was getting a brand new one) and $30 for the 100GB, and he said ok. (Even though he was reluctant to include the 40GB in on the deal, since I had "given" it to him). So we made the swap. The next day, he got the new Maxtor, but it was DOA. So he called them again and they said they'd ship him a new one. This was on Friday, and he said he absolutely had to have it the next day, and they agreed to ship it overnight. It didn't come, but he got it Monday. So, he called again to complain, and he finally talked to a CS manager, who said that for his trouble he could not only keep the new 40, but they would be sending him a brand new 120GB as a "sorry for the inconvenience" gift.

He then told me about this yesterday, and I wasn't exactly sure what to say. He was making a big deal about how he was going to enjoy his brand new "free" 120GB drive. I (half-jokingly) told him that I expected him to give it to me, and he got all defensive about how "it was his", that he "had done all the work for it", and how I had already gotten what was fair from the deal. I made the point that the deal was my 2 drives and $30, but now that there was a new drive in the equation I felt that I should at least get my $30 back, but he refused.

I really don't want to tick off a friend over this, and I know that techincally I "sold" the drive to him, but what do you think? Is he entitled to keep everything? Should he give me my $30 back? Should he give me the 40GB back? Or the 120GB? Am I an 455h0l3 for even suggesting it? Just curious.
 
If he is generally a good guy, I would just let him keep it, but I would consider him a bit less of a friend from now on. I feel he should have offered you a little something back (as little as lunch at least) as a sign of gratitude because the 120GB HD would have never come into the equation if it wasn't for you.
 
Originally posted by: fr
If he is generally a good guy, I would just let him keep it, but I would consider him a bit less of a friend from now on. I feel he should have offered you a little something back (as little as lunch at least) as a sign of gratitude because the 120GB HD would have never come into the equation if it wasn't for you.
Well, he's one of those "good guys...but". He's generally nice enough, but is not above ganking something or taking advantage of someone if he can get away with it. Before this I have always been in control of the dealings I've had (sold him X for Y, end of story). But now this is different.
 
Originally posted by: vetteguy
Originally posted by: fr
If he is generally a good guy, I would just let him keep it, but I would consider him a bit less of a friend from now on. I feel he should have offered you a little something back (as little as lunch at least) as a sign of gratitude because the 120GB HD would have never come into the equation if it wasn't for you.
Well, he's one of those "good guys...but". He's generally nice enough, but is not above ganking something or taking advantage of someone if he can get away with it. Before this I have always been in control of the dealings I've had (sold him X for Y, end of story). But now this is different.

The last time I had tried it it gave me some errors, so I wasn't sure it was even good, but I told him that if he got it working he could just have it. He tried it in his computer but it was totally dead. Upon inspection, he found that something on the pcb had blown. He asked me if it was alright to call Maxtor to see if there was any possibility that it was still under warranty, and I said sure (thinking there was no way)

w/ this type of attitude, he probably says the same thing about you vetteguy.
 
Originally posted by: Zim Hosein
Originally posted by: vetteguy
Originally posted by: fr
If he is generally a good guy, I would just let him keep it, but I would consider him a bit less of a friend from now on. I feel he should have offered you a little something back (as little as lunch at least) as a sign of gratitude because the 120GB HD would have never come into the equation if it wasn't for you.
Well, he's one of those "good guys...but". He's generally nice enough, but is not above ganking something or taking advantage of someone if he can get away with it. Before this I have always been in control of the dealings I've had (sold him X for Y, end of story). But now this is different.

The last time I had tried it it gave me some errors, so I wasn't sure it was even good, but I told him that if he got it working he could just have it. He tried it in his computer but it was totally dead. Upon inspection, he found that something on the pcb had blown. He asked me if it was alright to call Maxtor to see if there was any possibility that it was still under warranty, and I said sure (thinking there was no way)

w/ this type of attitude, he probably says the same thing about you vetteguy.
Huh? How am I taking advantage of him? I gave him a break, a good deal, AND he's getting WAY more than he originally was out of the deal.
 
Originally posted by: vetteguy
Originally posted by: Zim Hosein
Originally posted by: vetteguy
Originally posted by: fr
If he is generally a good guy, I would just let him keep it, but I would consider him a bit less of a friend from now on. I feel he should have offered you a little something back (as little as lunch at least) as a sign of gratitude because the 120GB HD would have never come into the equation if it wasn't for you.
Well, he's one of those "good guys...but". He's generally nice enough, but is not above ganking something or taking advantage of someone if he can get away with it. Before this I have always been in control of the dealings I've had (sold him X for Y, end of story). But now this is different.

The last time I had tried it it gave me some errors, so I wasn't sure it was even good, but I told him that if he got it working he could just have it. He tried it in his computer but it was totally dead. Upon inspection, he found that something on the pcb had blown. He asked me if it was alright to call Maxtor to see if there was any possibility that it was still under warranty, and I said sure (thinking there was no way)

w/ this type of attitude, he probably says the same thing about you vetteguy.
Huh? How am I taking advantage of him? I gave him a break, a good deal, AND he's getting WAY more than he originally was out of the deal.

so I wasn't sure it was even good, but I told him that if he got it working he could just have it.

He got it working by contacting Maxtor. I think this is what truly bothers you IMHO.
 
You gave him the drive. He RMA'd it and had to deal with Maxtor. If they are giving him a 120GB replacement for it, then more power to him.
 
sounds like you're just trying to scam him out of his parts and leave him with your castoffs. stop trying to skeeve off the fattest drive.
 
He got it working by contacting Maxtor. I think this is what truly bothers you IMHO.
Actually, I'm bothered by the fact that we made a deal, and through some unforseen circumstances he came way out ahead, and won't even consider any kind of "thank you" to me. The original deal was "it's yours, but it may not work". He technically got it working by getting it RMA'd to Maxtor. That's fine. He DID then agree to that working drive as part of the trade for the 100GB.
 
Originally posted by: vetteguy
He got it working by contacting Maxtor. I think this is what truly bothers you IMHO.
Actually, I'm bothered by the fact that we made a deal, and through some unforseen circumstances he came way out ahead, and won't even consider any kind of "thank you" to me. The original deal was "it's yours, but it may not work". He technically got it working by getting it RMA'd to Maxtor. That's fine. He DID then agree to that working drive as part of the trade for the 100GB.

and instead of patting him on the back and telling him he got a sweet deal, you try and haggle for the 120.
 
Originally posted by: yoda291
Originally posted by: vetteguy
He got it working by contacting Maxtor. I think this is what truly bothers you IMHO.
Actually, I'm bothered by the fact that we made a deal, and through some unforseen circumstances he came way out ahead, and won't even consider any kind of "thank you" to me. The original deal was "it's yours, but it may not work". He technically got it working by getting it RMA'd to Maxtor. That's fine. He DID then agree to that working drive as part of the trade for the 100GB.

and instead of patting him on the back and telling him he got a sweet deal, you try and haggle for the 120.

Exactly, he did the smart thing that you didn't think of and you're upset, I'm glad we're not friends.
 
Originally posted by: yoda291
Originally posted by: vetteguy
He got it working by contacting Maxtor. I think this is what truly bothers you IMHO.
Actually, I'm bothered by the fact that we made a deal, and through some unforseen circumstances he came way out ahead, and won't even consider any kind of "thank you" to me. The original deal was "it's yours, but it may not work". He technically got it working by getting it RMA'd to Maxtor. That's fine. He DID then agree to that working drive as part of the trade for the 100GB.

and instead of patting him on the back and telling him he got a sweet deal, you try and haggle for the 120.
Actually, if you read what I said, I only asked for the $30 back. I said it would be nice if I could have the 120 but did not demand I get it. I even offered to buy it from him but he refused.
 
Originally posted by: Zim Hosein
Exactly, he did the smart thing that you didn't think of and you're upset, I'm glad we're not friends.
We're not friends? I think you're my friend. 🙂
 
You gave him the dead 40GB, and he went thru the hassle of RMA'ing and reRMA'ing and got a new 120GB in return from Maxtor. The new 120GB is his. You gave him $30 and your 80GB for his 100GB SE drive. You shouldn't ask for anything back. He can do whatever he wanted with the stuff you gave him. Just enjoy your 100GB SE and let it go. Win some lose some. Let him have it, and continue the friendship. Don't blow it out of proportion for such a small matter.
 
i see a couple of things here, really, he owes you nothing, but i can see that he knows your a little pissed about him get the 160 gigs of space for free, and he is soaking in the luckiness of it. this angers you more, and he loves it more, just act like you dont care, my guess is he wont need the 260 gigs and since you hook him up sometimes, he will come to you.

cant live life if you're always kicking yourself in the ass.
 
Honestly Vetteguy,


You kind of are a jerk for even suggesting it (#4). No offense, but you made a trade, fair and square, and you have to stick to your word now. In addition, both of the drives you gave the guy were crap when he received it. He did the effort, he completely deserves them. The fact is, he never did have to tell you what he did - how he called and they gave him a new one. He could have kept hush about it - but he thought it probably wouldn't have bothered you - but since it does, you need to stop with that.

my .02
 
Originally posted by: SherEPunjab
Honestly Vetteguy,


You kind of are a jerk for even suggesting it (#4). No offense, but you made a trade, fair and square, and you have to stick to your word now. In addition, both of the drives you gave the guy were crap when he received it. He did the effort, he completely deserves them. The fact is, he never did have to tell you what he did - how he called and they gave him a new one. He could have kept hush about it - but he thought it probably wouldn't have bothered you - but since it does, you need to stop with that.

my .02
Actually, the reason he told me is because he KNEW it would tick me off, and for no other reason.
 
Originally posted by: vetteguy
Originally posted by: SherEPunjab
Honestly Vetteguy,


You kind of are a jerk for even suggesting it (#4). No offense, but you made a trade, fair and square, and you have to stick to your word now. In addition, both of the drives you gave the guy were crap when he received it. He did the effort, he completely deserves them. The fact is, he never did have to tell you what he did - how he called and they gave him a new one. He could have kept hush about it - but he thought it probably wouldn't have bothered you - but since it does, you need to stop with that.

my .02
Actually, the reason he told me is because he KNEW it would tick me off, and for no other reason.

thats what i said. just leave him alone, if he is really a friend, he will offer a deal for you.
 
Originally posted by: vetteguy
Originally posted by: Zim Hosein
Exactly, he did the smart thing that you didn't think of and you're upset, I'm glad we're not friends.
We're not friends? I think you're my friend. 🙂

It depends, if you treat me like the person in your thread, the answer would be no, otherwise we're cool, just don't give me anything 😛
 
Originally posted by: vetteguy
Originally posted by: yoda291
Originally posted by: vetteguy
He got it working by contacting Maxtor. I think this is what truly bothers you IMHO.
Actually, I'm bothered by the fact that we made a deal, and through some unforseen circumstances he came way out ahead, and won't even consider any kind of "thank you" to me. The original deal was "it's yours, but it may not work". He technically got it working by getting it RMA'd to Maxtor. That's fine. He DID then agree to that working drive as part of the trade for the 100GB.

and instead of patting him on the back and telling him he got a sweet deal, you try and haggle for the 120.
Actually, if you read what I said, I only asked for the $30 back. I said it would be nice if I could have the 120 but did not demand I get it. I even offered to buy it from him but he refused.

My point is why are you asking for anything back? Why are you even thinking of getting anything back? It's not like you suddenly lost more because maxtor upped his drive. Things looked fair enough when you got your 100 and he got your 80. Suddenly, you still have your 100 and he gets a 120 scot free and things have changed? Do you see where I am coming from? If it's not like that, feel free to say so, but that's what it looks like.
 
Originally posted by: vetteguy
Originally posted by: SherEPunjab
Honestly Vetteguy,


You kind of are a jerk for even suggesting it (#4). No offense, but you made a trade, fair and square, and you have to stick to your word now. In addition, both of the drives you gave the guy were crap when he received it. He did the effort, he completely deserves them. The fact is, he never did have to tell you what he did - how he called and they gave him a new one. He could have kept hush about it - but he thought it probably wouldn't have bothered you - but since it does, you need to stop with that.

my .02
Actually, the reason he told me is because he KNEW it would tick me off, and for no other reason.

You should be smart about it and act like you dont care. But I guess it's too late now.
 
Originally posted by: Zim Hosein
Originally posted by: vetteguy
Originally posted by: Zim Hosein
Exactly, he did the smart thing that you didn't think of and you're upset, I'm glad we're not friends.
We're not friends? I think you're my friend. 🙂

It depends, if you treat me like the person in your thread, the answer would be no[/], otherwise we're cool, just don't give me anything 😛

"like I treated him"...you mean give him stuff for free and the one time he makes out way ahead of me just ask that he say THANK YOU? I guess if that's the worst I ever do to someone I'm doing pretty good, I think.
 
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