What would you do in the situation?

[waggy]

Originally posted by: kmrivers

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: jagec

Originally posted by: kmrivers

Originally posted by: DAGTA
If you don't want to lose your girlfriend, keep out of it. Remember, that is your girlfriend's BROTHER and she will likely side with him over you.

I don't really care. Her brother is a pastor and is representing her faith. He is not treating her a a Christian should treat someone. He also masturbates to pornography on a daily basis. I have walked in. This is irrelevent but damn funny.

Anyhow, he is being dishonest with people as well. Making himself out to be mr. awesome when is reality is a pompous prick.

So... if my girlfriend gets angry at me for taking a stand. So be it. She can deal with it or walk.

It WILL get ugly if you step in.

That said, don't waste your time talking to the girl...you'll NEVER convince her or make her see the light. Women just don't think like us

Instead, concentrate your attacks on the guy...look up Bible passages, call him a hippocrite, threaten to go LoKe on him about the masturbation...did I mention that it will get ugly if you step in? You have to steel yourself to put up with a LOT of crap if you really want things to change.

Alternatively, you can just sit at the sidelines and make sarcastic comments from time to time, until he finally blows up at you and HE ends up looking like the dick.

but but he wants to be the hero and swoop in and save the girl! no matter if it destyoes his relationship with his girlfriend (wich puts him on the same level as the other guy) and makes him look like a idiot

me thinks he has seen one to many movies.

How does that put me on the same level? I am not treating my girlfriend like trash. I have already told her that I am going to do it. So I am not doing it behind her back.

I don't want to the hero. I am trying to save someone who is being driven to insanity by a pretend pastor.

uh huh keep telling yourself that.

as others have said this is going to end badly for you. it IS going to destroy your relationship with your girlfriend.

and since you already do not care about her and what she thinks that does put you on the same levle. but you are dead set on "saving" this women y ou do not understand what you are doing.

 

[kmrivers]

Originally posted by: raildogg
A lot of people are just saying sit on the sidelines while abuse occurs. Sit on the sidelines while a person is being taken advantage of. It makes sense to some degree, in fact, it makes a lot of sense.

But sometimes, you simply have to do something that is a bit senseless. Something that is morally right. It may not be effective and it may come back to bite you, but sometimes, something inside of you tells you that this is plain wrong. You have to stand up to it.

Stand up to this guy. Do what is right. But think long term.

Think about all the consequences, think about your g/f. Think broadly. Act smartly.

If you think you can handle that, then give advice to the girl. Make sure to cover your tracks. If you get caught, you must be able to stand firm and not back down. Tell whoever confronts you if anyone finds out that you are doing what your consience (maybe a bad choice of a word? ... it is late) is telling you.

I am a asshole myself sometimes and I cannot stand other assholes.

Either way, good luck.

Thank you. As i said I dont think my girlfriend is going anywhere. She knows I am doing this.

I think I am going to buy a digital recorder and try and get some of this on tape. And share it with people close to her, family, including my g/f's parents. So they can see what kind of abuse is happening. Is this smart or no? I will share it with his pastor too.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: raildogg
A lot of people are just saying sit on the sidelines while abuse occurs. Sit on the sidelines while a person is being taken advantage of. It makes sense to some degree, in fact, it makes a lot of sense.

But sometimes, you simply have to do something that is a bit senseless. Something that is morally right. It may not be effective and it may come back to bite you, but sometimes, something inside of you tells you that this is plain wrong. You have to stand up to it.

Stand up to this guy. Do what is right. But think long term.

Think about all the consequences, think about your g/f. Think broadly. Act smartly.

If you think you can handle that, then give advice to the girl. Make sure to cover your tracks. If you get caught, you must be able to stand firm and not back down. Tell whoever confronts you, if anyone finds out, that you are doing what your consience (maybe a bad choice of a word? ... it is late) is telling you.

I am a asshole myself sometimes and I cannot stand other assholes.

Either way, good luck.

getting in the middle of it wich would do NOTHING but make everyone pissed off at him. better option would be to contact a abuse center and have them contact her.

he goes in saying how bad he is will not work.

 

[kmrivers]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: kmrivers

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: jagec

Originally posted by: kmrivers

Originally posted by: DAGTA
If you don't want to lose your girlfriend, keep out of it. Remember, that is your girlfriend's BROTHER and she will likely side with him over you.

I don't really care. Her brother is a pastor and is representing her faith. He is not treating her a a Christian should treat someone. He also masturbates to pornography on a daily basis. I have walked in. This is irrelevent but damn funny.

Anyhow, he is being dishonest with people as well. Making himself out to be mr. awesome when is reality is a pompous prick.

So... if my girlfriend gets angry at me for taking a stand. So be it. She can deal with it or walk.

It WILL get ugly if you step in.

That said, don't waste your time talking to the girl...you'll NEVER convince her or make her see the light. Women just don't think like us

Instead, concentrate your attacks on the guy...look up Bible passages, call him a hippocrite, threaten to go LoKe on him about the masturbation...did I mention that it will get ugly if you step in? You have to steel yourself to put up with a LOT of crap if you really want things to change.

Alternatively, you can just sit at the sidelines and make sarcastic comments from time to time, until he finally blows up at you and HE ends up looking like the dick.

but but he wants to be the hero and swoop in and save the girl! no matter if it destyoes his relationship with his girlfriend (wich puts him on the same level as the other guy) and makes him look like a idiot

me thinks he has seen one to many movies.

How does that put me on the same level? I am not treating my girlfriend like trash. I have already told her that I am going to do it. So I am not doing it behind her back.

I don't want to the hero. I am trying to save someone who is being driven to insanity by a pretend pastor.

uh huh keep telling yourself that.

as others have said this is going to end badly for you. it IS going to destroy your relationship with your girlfriend.

and since you already do not care about her and what she thinks that does put you on the same levle. but you are dead set on "saving" this women y ou do not understand what you are doing.

Ok. Hear this: MY GIRLFRIEND KNOWS I AM DOING THIS! How will it end badly? Please tell me. I am a self dependant adult, I highly doubt this will bite me in the ass. My girlfriend isn't even that close to her brother.

She knows this is wrong, she just doesnt have the balls to stand up to it. I do.

I completely understand what I am doing. I lose my girlfriend. Ok. If she wants to walk for me doing what she and other should have done. Whatever. As I said if she wants to leave a man who will stand up to something her loss. Doesn't mean I don't care, doesnt mean I don't love her. If you want to say I don't fine. You are not going to shake my confidence one bit.

 

[thelanx]

Why do you keep posting quotes? It seems as if you are trying to convince us that a choice you've already made is the correct one. Look, likely no one is going to pat you on the back for this, except may the girl in question if it works out, if it doesn't, you would have you conscience to sooth you. At this point you have three choices:

1. Do nothing
2. Get someone else to get their hands dirty
3. Step in yourself

Choose one, many people have given their opinions, and you posting quotes isn't going to change many people's minds. Make your own decision and stop posting quotes because then it makes it seem like you are either futilely trying to convince people on ATOT or just trolling.

 

[raildogg]

Originally posted by: kmrivers

Originally posted by: raildogg
A lot of people are just saying sit on the sidelines while abuse occurs. Sit on the sidelines while a person is being taken advantage of. It makes sense to some degree, in fact, it makes a lot of sense.

But sometimes, you simply have to do something that is a bit senseless. Something that is morally right. It may not be effective and it may come back to bite you, but sometimes, something inside of you tells you that this is plain wrong. You have to stand up to it.

Stand up to this guy. Do what is right. But think long term.

Think about all the consequences, think about your g/f. Think broadly. Act smartly.

If you think you can handle that, then give advice to the girl. Make sure to cover your tracks. If you get caught, you must be able to stand firm and not back down. Tell whoever confronts you if anyone finds out that you are doing what your consience (maybe a bad choice of a word? ... it is late) is telling you.

I am a asshole myself sometimes and I cannot stand other assholes.

Either way, good luck.

Thank you. As i said I dont think my girlfriend is going anywhere. She knows I am doing this.

I think I am going to buy a digital recorder and try and get some of this on tape. And share it with people close to her, family, including my g/f's parents. So they can see what kind of abuse is happening. Is this smart or no? I will share it with his pastor too.

Well, most people here and elsewhere would call that snitching. But your intentions are good and you are indeed doing a good thing. You should probably talk to the girl, find out the reason why she is putting up with him. There has to be something. Maybe she is very lonely like you said and needs someone. She will feel comforted - assuming she is as lonely and in a bad condition like you said.

As for spreading the tapes around, I think you should be careful about that.

 

[kmrivers]

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: kmrivers

Originally posted by: raildogg
A lot of people are just saying sit on the sidelines while abuse occurs. Sit on the sidelines while a person is being taken advantage of. It makes sense to some degree, in fact, it makes a lot of sense.

But sometimes, you simply have to do something that is a bit senseless. Something that is morally right. It may not be effective and it may come back to bite you, but sometimes, something inside of you tells you that this is plain wrong. You have to stand up to it.

Stand up to this guy. Do what is right. But think long term.

Think about all the consequences, think about your g/f. Think broadly. Act smartly.

If you think you can handle that, then give advice to the girl. Make sure to cover your tracks. If you get caught, you must be able to stand firm and not back down. Tell whoever confronts you if anyone finds out that you are doing what your consience (maybe a bad choice of a word? ... it is late) is telling you.

I am a asshole myself sometimes and I cannot stand other assholes.

Either way, good luck.

Thank you. As i said I dont think my girlfriend is going anywhere. She knows I am doing this.

I think I am going to buy a digital recorder and try and get some of this on tape. And share it with people close to her, family, including my g/f's parents. So they can see what kind of abuse is happening. Is this smart or no? I will share it with his pastor too.

Well, most people here and elsewhere would call that snitching. But your intentions are good and you are indeed doing a good thing. You should probably talk to the girl, find out the reason why she is putting up with him. There has to be something. Maybe she is very lonely like you said and needs someone. She will feel comforted - assuming she is as lonely and in a bad condition like you said.

As for spreading the tapes around, I think you should be careful about that.

I am not sure about the tapes. But people need to see this guy for what he is. A fake.

Someone suggested to get someone else in on it and watch. The only way to do that is with hard proof of what he is doing to her. i.e. tapes.

 

[SlitheryDee]

Why not just walk up to the guy and say "Man if she's that worthless why the hell don't you drop her? Do you think this is going to save her? You're certainly not doing anything but venting your own frustrations on her. It's getting to the point where despite her previous transgressions SHE is the saint for putting up with your BS. Why don't you reread the bible and take a few hints from that 'Jesus' dude you posturing piece of sh!t preacher wannabe."

 

[skyking]

Originally posted by: SlitheryDee
Why not just walk up to the guy and say "Man if she's that worthless why the hell don't you drop her? Do you think this is going to save her? You're certainly not doing anything but venting your own frustrations on her. It's getting to the point where despite her previous transgressions SHE is the saint for putting up with your BS. Why don't you reread the bible and take a few hints from that 'Jesus' dude you posturing piece of sh!t preacher wannabe."

Something along those lines........ He would know all too soon I thought little of him and his antics. My big mouth would betray me