What would you do if a co-worker with less seniority, expertise and drive got paid more than you?

CoolTech

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A new guy at work was hired about 5 months ago. At the time, I had the same job title as he did. However, 2 months ago I was promoted into a different role where I interface with him to obtain the status of projects he is working on. I am not his manager, however I do manage projects he is involved with.

The guy comes late nearly every single day. I live 40 miles from work and am on time. I drive my car to the train station then walk 3 blocks. He lives 2 miles from work and he cant get to work on time. On top of this, we have to tell him the same thing many many times, and he still does not remember how to do things. He works as a Business Analyst which is a fairly technical role. He describes himself as not technical. The software developers that receive requirements consistently complain about the lack of detail and thoroughness. They have recently been cursing/scolding him for this. Overall, I am a superior employee with much more experience and expertise than him at my company.

However, as everyone working in the corporate world may know...when you switch jobs, you make the biggest salary gains. He moved from a large bank to our medium sized company. So, he was probably able to ask for a tidy sum.

We had open enrollment recently and he was asking me for help making choices. My harmless help has led to me feeling undervalued. Apparently the amount we pay for health benefits is directly tied to salary. Neither of us read this beforehand and now I know that he makes at least $10,000 more than I do for subpar work. Apparently its not very tasteful to bring up the fact that you know someone else's salary at work, but I found out in a fairly innocuous manner. I came into the company with not much corporate experience, but quickly exceled and was recently given a 20% raise. I have only been working for 4 years since college. But, it still bothers me a great deal that a guy myself and others have consistently noticed is apathetic and inept in many respects is paid more than me. I am contemplating starting to look for work but the current economy makes me almost simply happt to have a job. What would you do in this situation?
 

ed21x

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there is a reason yearly reviews take place. usually higher salaries are meant to attract more talented employees, but if he doesn't live up to expectations, expect him to get cut when appropriate at the end of the year.
 

BoomerD

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It sucks, but it's actually fairly common. It's also why corporate cultures emphasize keeping salaries secret, even though in some states, that clause in an employment contract is illegal.
 

nakedfrog

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Originally posted by: CoolTech
However, as everyone working in the corporate world may know...when you switch jobs, you make the biggest salary gains. He moved from a large bank to our medium sized company. So, he was probably able to ask for a tidy sum.

There you have it. Those are the breaks.
Me, I'd deal with it (I have in the past).
 

NL5

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If you are worth more than you make, the company will have zero problem giving you a raise. It's really that simple.

 

zinfamous

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This was my previous job. New hire arrived 1 year after me to replace an outgoing person. Thing is, that position was set up for a higher step to begin with. The other tech that had been in the lab 3 years before I was also was at the same level as I was. She pretty much knew everything in that lab and was responsible for 90% of the work.

Nothing you can really do about it when that's how the position is created. Of course, I'm guessing dude had to step up and actually do his work once I left. He's still there as far as I know....
 

Eeezee

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Originally posted by: NL5
If you are worth more than you make, the company will have zero problem giving you a raise. It's really that simple.

And if the other guy is worth less than he makes? What if the OP is acting out of concern for the company paying this guy too much? (No way, but roll with it)

And hopefully the people with the power to give raises are able to recognize whether the OP is actually worth more than he makes. This is definitely not always the case.
 

IEC

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It's not in your job description to question other peoples' value to the company. Now get back to work, pawn :p

Seriously, nothing good can come of this.
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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Welcome to corporate America. You and he are being evaluated by a set of rules and relationships that are never talked about, explained or, justified. The corporate game is inferring the rules and manipulating them. The only catch is that you must spend all your time focusing on the politics, give up any passion/pride for your work and, disassociate yourself from the human race.
 

RKS

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You should act like you are sneezing and "accidently" pee on him at the urinal.
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Do what he did. Get a new job elsewhere for more money.

Spoken like a good little corporate drone. Is the current economic crisis not proof enough that the free enterprise model is broken?
 

Capt Caveman

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Originally posted by: MagnusTheBrewer
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Do what he did. Get a new job elsewhere for more money.

Spoken like a good little corporate drone. Is the current economic crisis not proof enough that the free enterprise model is broken?

:confused: You're a chef, how would you know what the corporate world is like?

If you have unique/valuable skill a company wants, you can always find work and make more money.
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: MagnusTheBrewer
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Do what he did. Get a new job elsewhere for more money.

Spoken like a good little corporate drone. Is the current economic crisis not proof enough that the free enterprise model is broken?

:confused: You're a chef, how would you know what the corporate world is like?

If you have unique/valuable skill a company wants, you can always find work and make more money.

I worked for the largest food service corporation in the world for years and finally came to the conclusion that the money aint worth the corporate crap. As for the bolded quote, I think you are naive. Corporations only work in their own best interests in the larger picture. Individual employees are NOT the larger picture.
 

Capt Caveman

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Originally posted by: MagnusTheBrewer
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: MagnusTheBrewer
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Do what he did. Get a new job elsewhere for more money.

Spoken like a good little corporate drone. Is the current economic crisis not proof enough that the free enterprise model is broken?

:confused: You're a chef, how would you know what the corporate world is like?

If you have unique/valuable skill a company wants, you can always find work and make more money.

I worked for the largest food service corporation in the world for years and finally came to the conclusion that the money aint worth the corporate crap. As for the bolded quote, I think you are naive. Corporations only work in their own best interests in the larger picture. Individual employees are NOT the larger picture.

:confused: So what? And how does that go against my advice to the OP? Sounds like you're agreeing with me then.
 

Aimster

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I work for the federal govt.

People who majored in sociology or who didn't go to college get paid $$$ whereas I busted my ass for my degrees and certifications.. all which mean squat in the govt.

They all laugh at me when they still see me studying. O well.
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: MagnusTheBrewer
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: MagnusTheBrewer
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Do what he did. Get a new job elsewhere for more money.

Spoken like a good little corporate drone. Is the current economic crisis not proof enough that the free enterprise model is broken?

:confused: You're a chef, how would you know what the corporate world is like?

If you have unique/valuable skill a company wants, you can always find work and make more money.

I worked for the largest food service corporation in the world for years and finally came to the conclusion that the money aint worth the corporate crap. As for the bolded quote, I think you are naive. Corporations only work in their own best interests in the larger picture. Individual employees are NOT the larger picture.

:confused: So what? And how does that go against my advice to the OP? Sounds like you're agreeing with me then.

Let me make it easy. It is in the short term interest of the corporation to hire the cheapest person for the job they can find. Just because a individual has a "unique/valuable skill" does NOT mean a corporation will pay more for it. AND, because all corporations tend to think in the short term, it is very unlikely that another corporation will pay more for a similar position.