What would they do if they found out the judges in the Florida fiasco....

CoolTech

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What would they do if they found out the judges in the Florida fiasco were talked to or intimidated into making certain decisions in favor of Jeb's brother, now mr. president. Anyway we can kick him out and put gore in, say if they were physically threatened or something? Any precedent for this sort of thing? heh.
 

tcsenter

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What would you do if you discovered that you actually can spend your mental energies pondering about non-ridiculous things?
 

Orsorum

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Most likely nothing, because it will never be proven. Those responsible for upholding the status quo will never allow their foundation to be questioned.
 

shiner

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Well considering the Florida Supreme Court favored Al Gore I don't think your little scenario is even possible.
 

MonstaThrilla

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Originally posted by: shinerburke
Well considering the Florida Supreme Court favored Al Gore I don't think your little scenario is even possible.


Well considering the Florida Governor, Florida Secretary of State, Florida Elections Commision, and Supreme Court of the United States favored George W. Bush, I don't think his scenario is possible either.

The Bush team prepared to do everything and anything to win Florida, and subsequently the election. They prepared challenging the Constitution had Bush won the popular vote, yet lost the Electoral College. IRS documents show that they spent $2 million flying and housing pro-Bush protesters to cause a raucous during the recount. Due to Bush's superior campaign team, and Gore's horrible team, the election was decided long before the Supreme Court made its pro-Bush decision. The Bush team simply wanted it more, and they got it.
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: CoolTech
What would they do if they found out the judges in the Florida fiasco were talked to or intimidated into making certain decisions in favor of Jeb's brother, now mr. president. Anyway we can kick him out and put gore in, say if they were physically threatened or something? Any precedent for this sort of thing? heh.

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CkG
 

tcsenter

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Due to Bush's superior campaign team, and Gore's horrible team, the election was decided long before the Supreme Court made its pro-Bush decision. The Bush team simply wanted it more, and they got it.
And winning Florida didn't hurt at all, either. :confused:

Gore had none other than Harvard Professor Dr. Lawrence Tribe on his team, who is arguably the eminent constitutional scholar of our time. Bush had nobody of that caliber on his team - nobody. If Dr. Tribe couldn't win it for Gore, that means Gore didn't have much of a case.
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: tcsenter
Due to Bush's superior campaign team, and Gore's horrible team, the election was decided long before the Supreme Court made its pro-Bush decision. The Bush team simply wanted it more, and they got it.
And winning Florida didn't hurt at all, either. :confused:

Gore had none other than Harvard Professor Dr. Lawrence Tribe on his team, who is arguably the eminent constitutional scholar of our time. Bush had nobody of that caliber on his team - nobody. If Dr. Tribe couldn't win it for Gore, that means Gore didn't have much of a case.

And he didn't have a case because Florida Election Law (at the time) was followed and thus, Bush won. :)

Moonbeam - care to stir the pot? Care to point out where in Election Law that is says that a State's Supreme Court can change laws during/after and election to change how votes are counted?

CkG
 

Sternfan

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Originally posted by: CoolTech
What would they do if they found out the judges in the Florida fiasco were talked to or intimidated into making certain decisions in favor of Jeb's brother, now mr. president. Anyway we can kick him out and put gore in, say if they were physically threatened or something? Any precedent for this sort of thing? heh.


And what if the moon was made of Headcheese! why waste a post with this mindless dribble. Why make up lies like this. This is the most left sided forum I have ever seen, you never have anything good to say. Everything is not bad, as a matter of fact things are looking a bit better lately. People are making money again in the stock market, many companies are posting some good numbers on wall street. Soon big companies will start hiring again and unemployment will creep down. Dam man let it go Gore lost and its over.
 

LunarRay

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Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: tcsenter
Due to Bush's superior campaign team, and Gore's horrible team, the election was decided long before the Supreme Court made its pro-Bush decision. The Bush team simply wanted it more, and they got it.
And winning Florida didn't hurt at all, either. :confused:

Gore had none other than Harvard Professor Dr. Lawrence Tribe on his team, who is arguably the eminent constitutional scholar of our time. Bush had nobody of that caliber on his team - nobody. If Dr. Tribe couldn't win it for Gore, that means Gore didn't have much of a case.

And he didn't have a case because Florida Election Law (at the time) was followed and thus, Bush won. :)

Moonbeam - care to stir the pot? Care to point out where in Election Law that is says that a State's Supreme Court can change laws during/after and election to change how votes are counted?

CkG

See my link a few posts up "gore v harris"... they did not attempt to change the law... they simply ordered the court below to follow it..
Tribe presented good argument... but 'the equal' of the 14th was not followed, nor could it be given the different means to vote... the remedy, however, said there was not time to make it right... they could have made it right ... see Breyers dissent.. and the other three dissents...

 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: LunarRay
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: tcsenter
Due to Bush's superior campaign team, and Gore's horrible team, the election was decided long before the Supreme Court made its pro-Bush decision. The Bush team simply wanted it more, and they got it.
And winning Florida didn't hurt at all, either. :confused:

Gore had none other than Harvard Professor Dr. Lawrence Tribe on his team, who is arguably the eminent constitutional scholar of our time. Bush had nobody of that caliber on his team - nobody. If Dr. Tribe couldn't win it for Gore, that means Gore didn't have much of a case.

And he didn't have a case because Florida Election Law (at the time) was followed and thus, Bush won. :)

Moonbeam - care to stir the pot? Care to point out where in Election Law that is says that a State's Supreme Court can change laws during/after and election to change how votes are counted?

CkG

See my link a few posts up "gore v harris"... they did not attempt to change the law... they simply ordered the court below to follow it..
Tribe presented good argument... but 'the equal' of the 14th was not followed, nor could it be given the different means to vote... the remedy, however, said there was not time to make it right... they could have made it right ... see Breyers dissent.. and the other three dissents...

You can't change a law in the middle of an election. If it was a "bad" law then get it changed but as far as I know the Court system can not and is not supposed to dictate or change laws - only interpret and protect them. The legislature is the one who makes law. If the court wants to strike down the law then so be it but it can't change the law.

CkG
 

LunarRay

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Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: LunarRay
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: tcsenter
Due to Bush's superior campaign team, and Gore's horrible team, the election was decided long before the Supreme Court made its pro-Bush decision. The Bush team simply wanted it more, and they got it.
And winning Florida didn't hurt at all, either. :confused:

Gore had none other than Harvard Professor Dr. Lawrence Tribe on his team, who is arguably the eminent constitutional scholar of our time. Bush had nobody of that caliber on his team - nobody. If Dr. Tribe couldn't win it for Gore, that means Gore didn't have much of a case.

And he didn't have a case because Florida Election Law (at the time) was followed and thus, Bush won. :)

Moonbeam - care to stir the pot? Care to point out where in Election Law that is says that a State's Supreme Court can change laws during/after and election to change how votes are counted?

CkG

See my link a few posts up "gore v harris"... they did not attempt to change the law... they simply ordered the court below to follow it..
Tribe presented good argument... but 'the equal' of the 14th was not followed, nor could it be given the different means to vote... the remedy, however, said there was not time to make it right... they could have made it right ... see Breyers dissent.. and the other three dissents...

You can't change a law in the middle of an election. If it was a "bad" law then get it changed but as far as I know the Court system can not and is not supposed to dictate or change laws - only interpret and protect them. The legislature is the one who makes law. If the court wants to strike down the law then so be it but it can't change the law.

CkG

A distinction without a difference... the total cast votes should have been counted and the intent (by florida law) determined in a consistent manner (equal clause) not one district doing it this way and another that way... this is what the 11th saw and fast tracted it up to USSC... FSSC did not change or attempt to change anything... they followed the legislature... step by step.. they ruled correctly... the Supreme Thwart did not remedy the issue... there is the problem... they could have ordered it done... by remand with instructions...

edit to provide this...FSSC opinion In here you will see the FSSC followed the law... it was Ms. Harris that played bad news bear... chomp on this when ya get a chance..:D