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What would it take for the US to actually "declare" war?

Gooberlx2

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We haven't officially declared a war since World War II? When that happened there was a huge shift of production towards military efforts, rationing of food, curfews, blackouts, etc...

What would it take for something like that to happen again?
 
Well it won't be Kerry as President, that's for sure. That pussy wouldn't know wtf to do if someone slapped him in the face. He'd probably call for a summit of nations instead of kicking ass and taking names! What a douche.
 
you mean for WWIII ?

well, if Pakistan and India started nuking each other, maybe

if China squished Taiwan, maybe

if somebody nuked Israel, perhaps

i don't think WWWIII will start without nukes being involved
 
Originally posted by: Zugzwang152
I don't see WW3 happening without the world ending ~5 minutes later when the nukes blow...

screw direct assault, i would nuke the polar ice caps and certain tectonic regions on the planet, not only melting the polor ice caps but also causing tectonic disruption on a wide scale. its slower that way.
 
Okay then, how 'bout this: Who would ever have a chance of invading US soil? Mexico and Canada don't count. I imagine anybody trying to invade the US would certainly start WWIII.
 
Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
Okay then, how 'bout this: Who would ever have a chance of invading US soil? Mexico and Canada don't count. I imagine anybody trying to invade the US would certainly start WWIII.

i cant see anyone invading the continental us or hawaii/alaska, more likely they would take over our territories abroad (like japan did in ww2)
 
Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
Originally posted by: Zugzwang152
I don't see WW3 happening without the world ending ~5 minutes later when the nukes blow...

screw direct assault, i would nuke the polar ice caps and certain tectonic regions on the planet, not only melting the polor ice caps but also causing tectonic disruption on a wide scale. its slower that way.

Makes me wonder what would happen if someone blew some nukes on top of the caldera in Yellowstone Nat'l Park.
 
Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
Originally posted by: Zugzwang152
I don't see WW3 happening without the world ending ~5 minutes later when the nukes blow...

screw direct assault, i would nuke the polar ice caps and certain tectonic regions on the planet, not only melting the polor ice caps but also causing tectonic disruption on a wide scale. its slower that way.

you sir are an A$$hole! but hey i like your style of thinking! At least this way you give people a slight chance. heh
 
Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
Makes me wonder what would happen if someone blew some nukes on top of the caldera in Yellowstone Nat'l Park.
A really big boom, followed by lots of lava.

Actually, probably a whole lot of nothing. Detonate it undergound, and then we have issues.
 
If someone steals the only copy of WoW or HL2 before it goes out to be copied and takes it overseas. 😀

And the real question is: How long would it take the French to surrender? 😛
 
I don't think anyone has the ability to hit US with any type of nuclear device without getting shot down.
Of course they can do it if they were on Mexico or Canadian soil but whats the chance of sneaking something like that into their soil and then firing at us ??
 
Originally posted by: Nik
Well it won't be Kerry as President, that's for sure. That pussy wouldn't know wtf to do if someone slapped him in the face. He'd probably call for a summit of nations instead of kicking ass and taking names! What a douche.

LOL.....I love/hate it when people spout ridiculous BS like that....
 
Back to the question:
What would it take for us to declare war?

A major effort by a large powerful country to attack and invade the U.S. or one of our allies.
 
Originally posted by: Nik
Well it won't be Kerry as President, that's for sure. That pussy wouldn't know wtf to do if someone slapped him in the face. He'd probably call for a summit of nations instead of kicking ass and taking names! What a douche.
Yeah, Bush is really a lot better..

/slap

"Kill them now, ask questions later!"

uh huh.
 
Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
Okay then, how 'bout this: Who would ever have a chance of invading US soil? Mexico and Canada don't count. I imagine anybody trying to invade the US would certainly start WWIII.

No country has the mobility necessary to invade CONUS. Count the ships in drydock around the country and planes at Davis-Montham AFB, and we've got at least 1:1 ratio with every plane and ship on the planet. The Soviet Union had the raw capability, but so much of that material is now non-operational. China would stand the best chance if they got more advanced technology from another country IE Russia and started a massive material construction campaign.

We've literally got more F-16s in mothballs at Davis-Montham AFB than most countries have planes in their air force.
 
Originally posted by: TerryMathews
Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
Okay then, how 'bout this: Who would ever have a chance of invading US soil? Mexico and Canada don't count. I imagine anybody trying to invade the US would certainly start WWIII.

No country has the mobility necessary to invade CONUS. Count the ships in drydock around the country and planes at Davis-Montham AFB, and we've got at least 1:1 ratio with every plane and ship on the planet. The Soviet Union had the raw capability, but so much of that material is now non-operational. China would stand the best chance if they got more advanced technology from another country IE Russia and started a massive material construction campaign.

We've literally got more F-16s in mothballs at Davis-Montham AFB than most countries have planes in their air force.

Not just the technology for China, but the fact is their Navy is pretty much non-existant on a scale that would allow them to even make a small dent landing anywhere on the CONUS.
 
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: TerryMathews
Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
Okay then, how 'bout this: Who would ever have a chance of invading US soil? Mexico and Canada don't count. I imagine anybody trying to invade the US would certainly start WWIII.

No country has the mobility necessary to invade CONUS. Count the ships in drydock around the country and planes at Davis-Montham AFB, and we've got at least 1:1 ratio with every plane and ship on the planet. The Soviet Union had the raw capability, but so much of that material is now non-operational. China would stand the best chance if they got more advanced technology from another country IE Russia and started a massive material construction campaign.

We've literally got more F-16s in mothballs at Davis-Montham AFB than most countries have planes in their air force.

Not just the technology for China, but the fact is their Navy is pretty much non-existant on a scale that would allow them to even make a small dent landing anywhere on the CONUS.

I didn't really make myself clear enough - if China were given modern technology and designs, they could leverage their massive manufacturing capability to produce a moderately-sized navy in short order. AFAIK, we (US) sail more military vessels than all other nations on the planet, combined.
 
Is current US war/defense/strategic policy to respond to direct nuclear attacks (on our homeland) with nuclear force or did they give that up?
 
Originally posted by: CTrain
I don't think anyone has the ability to hit US with any type of nuclear device without getting shot down.
Of course they can do it if they were on Mexico or Canadian soil but whats the chance of sneaking something like that into their soil and then firing at us ??

suitcase bombs... already have the tech... could take out a city ...
 
Originally posted by: SirStev0
Originally posted by: CTrain
I don't think anyone has the ability to hit US with any type of nuclear device without getting shot down.
Of course they can do it if they were on Mexico or Canadian soil but whats the chance of sneaking something like that into their soil and then firing at us ??

suitcase bombs... already have the tech... could take out a city ...

but no country has the ability to project thier power to acupy are territory so yes they could suitcase nuke, hell no country really could pose any threat to us in a non nuclear way. speaking of why don't we just solve the tawain prolbem by secreatly giving them nukes? then they claim they develped them on thier own. don't think china would even raise a fingure if the declaired independence.
 
Originally posted by: Antoneo
Is current US war/defense/strategic policy to respond to direct nuclear attacks (on our homeland) with nuclear force or did they give that up?

If we were nuked, I'm pretty sure the public would respond in kind...x5923098437043. Whatever country did it would no longer exist, and if it was terrorists...well, whatever country helped supply them would probably be gone.
 
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