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jLc09

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Hi I am planning to build a system with this setup and I want to know what would be a good motherboard for it that can be easily OC and use the full potential of the CPU. For the meantime I will still use my old video card ATI X1900 XTX

CPU: Intel E6850 1333FSB
RAM: OCZ FlexXLC 2048MB PC9200 DDR2 1150MHz



Thanks so much guys ))

 
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You have to remember that you are running a 1333 CPU. There are not a whole lot of boards out there that will really over-clock that by a whole lot. I think the question you should be asking is what kind of graphics are you interested in the future. If SLI is even remotely in the back of your mind, well, there are really only 2-3 motherboards to look into. However, if SLI is not in the mix, some of the P35 boards are worth considering. You may want to wait a week or two for some of the more comprehensive reviews to come out. You should also keep Penryn compatibility in mind, as it gives you an upgrade path for the next 12 months (so you don't have to replace your motherboard, just the CPU).
 
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P35 chipset boards.

The Abit P35 Pro is a great / cheap choice @ $180

Asus P5K deluxe @ $230 and Gigabyte P35 DQ6 @ $240
 
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jLc09

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I'm not planning on SLI anytime soon neither upgrading my CPU for another 12 months.. I need a motherboard that can be stable and fast that is best match for both the OCZ FlexXLC 2048MB PC9200 DDR2 1150MHz RAM and Intel E6850 FSB 1333 CPU. BTW I kinda don't get SerpentRoyal saying about board be able to hit 500FSB, I thought E6850 has 1333FSB not 500? I'm Sorry Im just new to this, thanks so much for the help.....

Last one I'm a gamer, and I want to know if E6850 is better for me rather than the Q6600? Thanks again ^^
 
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You need to be able to hit as high of a fsb as possible when overclocking a multiplier locked chip (currently all non extreme edition or ES chips). For example, on a 333 fsb chip you can achieve a 50 % overclock by jumping the fsb up to 500. Most good p35 boards get to 500 +.
 
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Incorrect. High FSB places a lot of stress on CPU, MB, and RAM. CPU core speed is still KING. In general, go with the highest CPU multiplier you can afford. 9x to 10x is the sweet spot. Once you have a stable core speed, use the memory divider to raise the RAM speed while maintaining overall system stability.
 
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Heidfirst

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Originally posted by: jLc09 BTW I kinda don't get SerpentRoyal saying about board be able to hit 500FSB, I thought E6850 has 1333FSB not 500? I'm Sorry Im just new to this, thanks so much for the help.....
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Intel's quad pump the bus so the 1333fsb is in fact 333fsbx4.
Good overclocking mobos can do 500fsb (or 500x4=2000) plus although with a high multi CPU like yours you won't be able to use th etop multis & hit the same fsb.

 
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Originally posted by: SerpentRoyal
There are issues with Abit IP35 Pro (read review below).
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what issues? I didn't see anything obviously worrying in the link (& if you mean the 1394 speed I would imagine that the IP35 probably suffers too).

 
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Originally posted by: Heidfirst
Originally posted by: SerpentRoyal
There are issues with Abit IP35 Pro (read review below).
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what issues? I didn't see anything obviously worrying in the link (& if you mean the 1394 speed I would imagine that the IP35 probably suffers too).
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1394 connection is very slow...only about 14.4MB/s with my external HDD. One would expect 1394 to be 10% faster than USB 2.0, somewhere in the range of 34MB/s. IP35 may have the same problem, but it's also cheaper than IP35 Pro by $30 to $40.

The Pro version lacks a selectable 4-pin/3-pin fan option found in the IP35-E. Therefore, this "Pro" board cannot control the speed of a 2-pin fan. To take advantage of the onboard fan speed control, the fan must come with a 3rd RPM sensing wire. Additionally, the 4-pin CPU plug will only trim the speed of a PWM-capable fan. The NB runs a tad cooler, thanks to the copper-bottom heat pipe. Overclocking capability (E4300 @ 1.465V), however, is still the same as the IP35-E.

The Abit IP35 Pro is still a fine board, but the tests don't show any performance gain over the much cheaper Abit IP35-E. The availability of 1T timing in BIOS barery register any improvement with 1M Super Pi time (within the test's noise floor). I also had to clear the BIOS several times during testing. Didn't have to do this with the IP35-E.
 
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Heidfirst

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Originally posted by: SerpentRoyal
Additionally, the 4-pin PU plug will only trim the speed of a PWM-capable fan.
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so you run a 3-pin fan off 1 of the other headers instead (having disabled the low rpm shutdown etc. on the CPUFan header) - no big deal imo.
On the other hand it probably has more adjustable fan headers & better fan control due to uGuru.
Plus the other additional features (POST reporter, eSATA, 2nd physical x16 slot etc.) should somebody want those.
 
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jLc09

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So guys rightnow what would be better to get a Q6600 that have been around and has a lot of mobos, or the E6850 that just came out? BTW incase I get a Q6600 what would be a good motherboard for it that can match my Flex XLC OCZ9200 DDR2 cost ranging from $150 - $250? Thanks again...
 
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SerpentRoyal

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Originally posted by: Heidfirst
Originally posted by: SerpentRoyal
Additionally, the 4-pin PU plug will only trim the speed of a PWM-capable fan.
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so you run a 3-pin fan off 1 of the other headers instead (having disabled the low rpm shutdown etc. on the CPUFan header) - no big deal imo.
On the other hand it probably has more adjustable fan headers & better fan control due to uGuru.
Plus the other additional features (POST reporter, eSATA, 2nd physical x16 slot etc.) should somebody want those.
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I run 120mm x 38mm Panaflo. No RPM sensing wire, so I cannot control fan speed with the IP35 Pro. That's a huge problem.

GURU can control more fan headers, with greater precision. However, the 5C/5% stepping found on the IP35/IP35-E is more than adequate for most users. The cheaper boards also feature adjustable hysterisis, which is more useful in real-world condition.

If the rig is properly configured, then you'll never need to rely on the diagnostic code. The code number is worthless without a table showing the code and possible failure mode. Abit did not include this table with the manual.

I also don't think most users will care about eSATA or 2nd PCI-E x 16 slot when purchasing a new MB. I can't justify paying an extra 67% price premium for these features. Folks are more interested in stability and overclockability. I would only step up to the Abit IP35 (non-E) if RAID is a requirement.
 
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Heidfirst

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Originally posted by: SerpentRoyal
I run 120mm x 38mm Panaflo. No RPM sensing wire, so I cannot control fan speed with the IP35 Pro. That's a huge problem.
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I'm actually surprised that the standard & -E can control a 2-pin fan - in my experience most boards can't (apart from the fact that again in my experience other mfrs' fan control solutions don't stack upto abit's).

If the rig is properly configured, then you'll never need to rely on the diagnostic code. The code number is worthless without a table showing the code and possible failure mode. Abit did not include this table with the manual.
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You don't rely on it but my experience is that the POST reporter is an useful tool if/when something goes wrong.
The table is in my downloaded copy of the manual - section 5.1
Most of them are the standard diagnostic codes that any diagnostic card would show with only a relatively few being uGuru specific.


I also don't think most users will care about eSATA or 2nd PCI-E x 16 slot when purchasing a new MB. I can't justify paying an extra 67% price premium for these features. Folks are more interested in stability and overclockability. I would only step up to the Abit IP35 (non-E) if RAID is a requirement.
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Some people will though - eSATA is definitely a requirement for some people, some people will run Crossfire & some will use the 2nd x16 slot for a RAID card or some such.
 
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