What will happen if the legal pot in Colorado does not result in chaos?

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Hugo Drax

Hugo Drax

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Conservatives claim that making pot legal will result in catastrophic drug abuse and would destroy the state. They have been warning the world about the horrors of pot.

But what will happen if nothing bad happens with legal pot other than now emptier costly prisons and big tax income filling the state coffers?

How will conservatives explain this?

I wonder if other states will quickly want to jump on the band wagon once they discover that pot will not turn its populace into devil pot zombies raping and pillaging the streets.
 
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nehalem256

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What kind of Chaos should we be on the lookout for?

Will the Dark Lord Cthulhu lay waste to Denver? And if this does not happen we can confidently declare that pot is safe? :cool:
 
KB

KB

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I imagine most states are going to allow it when they see the sweet tax revenues for colorado. They will have to find some other crime to use to fill their for profit prisons though.
 
shortylickens

shortylickens

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I dunno.

Gays marrying has not resulted in chaos, but california still went ahead and banned it.
 
Humpy

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People will just make up whatever chaos they want to and screech about it.

At some point there will be a violent robbery at a pot store. All the cash and passive stoners make an attractive target. The media will latch on and there will be a frenzy of "look how these drug dens attract crime!, We're all going to get raped!".
 
crashtech

crashtech

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I guess it would mean that adults can be expected to behave as adults?

I don't know why more people aren't offended by the government telling them what they can put in their bodies in the privacy of their own home. It's so funny how so many seem to pick and choose the certain freedoms they want, and to hell with everyone else as long as their pet freedom is left alone.
 
shira

shira

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The federal government has already said that it's prepared to step in if marijuana use by Colorado children escalates Unfortunately, that seems like an inevitable consequence of more easily-obtainable weed.

I'm sure we're going to be reading stories about stoners behind the wheel five minutes after legally buying at a dispensary, people (illegally) selling MJ legally grown in their own houses, and intoxicated five-year-olds that found their parents' vaporizers carelessly left on living room tables.

Unfortunately, the question "Are we better off now than we were pre-legalization?" is going to get widely-divergent answers. To my mind, there will be several major advantages and some minor and moderate disadvantages. I just hope that the Federal government is able to be rational and philosophical about this change and its consequences.
 
Nintendesert

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Obama, being a great conservative President, has made great strides fighting the evil marijuana medical industry in California. It's nice to see him step back and stay out of Colorado, for now.
 
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compuwiz1

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Incorruptible said:
Agree. OP is very ignorant if he actually believes this crap. He is thinking of social conservatives and neo-cons who want big government.
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I voted to legalize it. I've always felt it stupid that people have been sentenced to do time for smoking and possessing a bit of it. I rarely ever use it myself anymore, but I don't think it's as dangerous as alcohol. I also wanted to see the crime removed from it.
 
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Greenman

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Why would there be chaos? It's just pot.
The only "issues" that I'm aware of are what happens after an accident or work related injury. I think that might get messy.
 
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Balt

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KB said:
I imagine most states are going to allow it when they see the sweet tax revenues for colorado. They will have to find some other crime to use to fill their for profit prisons though.
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The CCA has probably been brainstorming for months or years.
 
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brycejones

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Balt said:
The CCA has probably been brainstorming for months or years.
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Unfortunately the individual mandate has been unpopular so there isn't an opportunity to criminalize not having health insurance. ;)

I would be shocked though if Kansas legalizes pot anytime soon. The law and order, social conservative crowd is very much in charge right now. The only thing they trend libertarian on is eliminating business taxes besides that they are all about governmental intrusion into individual's lives.
 
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Vic

Vic

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Incorruptible said:
Agree. OP is very ignorant if he actually believes this crap. He is thinking of social conservatives and neo-cons who want big government.
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Most conservatives are social conservatives.
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http://www.gallup.com/poll/150149/record-high-americans-favor-legalizing-marijuana.aspx
 
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Jhhnn

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shira said:
The federal government has already said that it's prepared to step in if marijuana use by Colorado children escalates Unfortunately, that seems like an inevitable consequence of more easily-obtainable weed.

I'm sure we're going to be reading stories about stoners behind the wheel five minutes after legally buying at a dispensary, people (illegally) selling MJ legally grown in their own houses, and intoxicated five-year-olds that found their parents' vaporizers carelessly left on living room tables.

Unfortunately, the question "Are we better off now than we were pre-legalization?" is going to get widely-divergent answers. To my mind, there will be several major advantages and some minor and moderate disadvantages. I just hope that the Federal government is able to be rational and philosophical about this change and its consequences.
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If we limit minors' access to marijuana as well as we do wrt alcohol, that should be sufficient.

All that other stuff? It's been happening all along, particularly since we've had MMJ. Colorado MMJ is apparently a fairly leaky system, has been for years, and nothing really bad happened, at all. All the doom & gloom surrounding that failed to materialize, and so it's likely to be with full legalization. Just another day. If you don't smoke pot, it won't make enough difference to matter. Millions of people will be buying pot all over America, anyway, but the only place they're doing it legally w/o a prescription is in Colorado. So far, this new reality, this paradigm shift seems to be working just fine for us. It'll be easy on everybody.
 
Brovane

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The interesting thing is that Pot being legal in Colorado is really at the whim of the President. Right now he has ordered the Federal Agencies to look the other way. I wonder how if the next President coming in reverses that order. Their could be a lot of chaos.
 
shira

shira

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How long does it take, after a heavy sessions of MJ use, for the blood level of THC to fall to legal levels? (And by the way, what is the legal level for blood THC?)
 
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