The economy is steadily improving. The wars are receding. Foreign policy is a lock for Obama and so is security. What do we have left? Contraceptives? Birth certificates? What else?
What will be the 2012 Republican Party's Presidential talking points?
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Straw men. Obama the enemy of religion, Obama the communist, Obama the surrenderer, Obama the pal of terrorists, Obama the lover of high gas prices etc.
Blackjack200
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Depends on U3. If the unemployment rate is still above 7% by mid summer, Republicans will hammer Obama mostly on the economy, then deficit, then on Obamacare, then taxes, then, last of all, social issues. Romneys' weak, and the unemployment rate is likely to at least have shown some improvement, so it will probably be a tight race with Obama having the advantage.
If the unemployment rate is 6% or less, you may see them try to attribute the improving economy to Bush's tax cuts and blame Obama for slowing the recovery down with his "deficit spending". But Obama will have an easy answer saying something to the effect of "now that we've gotten the economy growing again, we can address the deficit." I think you will mostly see attacks on Obamacare, then, if it's Romney, some odd accusation that he wants to make America like Europe. Social issues will be there too to energize the base, but social issues are a loser for the Republicans at this point, so they will probably try to just say enough to remind all the homophobes to vote, without reminding everyone how backwards their ideas are in that arena. All in all, it will be pretty weak sauce.
If the unemployment rate is 6% or less, you may see them try to attribute the improving economy to Bush's tax cuts and blame Obama for slowing the recovery down with his "deficit spending". But Obama will have an easy answer saying something to the effect of "now that we've gotten the economy growing again, we can address the deficit." I think you will mostly see attacks on Obamacare, then, if it's Romney, some odd accusation that he wants to make America like Europe. Social issues will be there too to energize the base, but social issues are a loser for the Republicans at this point, so they will probably try to just say enough to remind all the homophobes to vote, without reminding everyone how backwards their ideas are in that arena. All in all, it will be pretty weak sauce.
CallMeJoe
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It depends entirely on the Republican nominee.
Governor Romney will talk about how much faster he would have brought back the economy.
Mr. Gingrich will talk about $2.50 gasoline, when he can stay on one topic.
Senator Santorum will talk about the necessity of returning to 13th century morality.
Representative Paul will talk about the necessity of returning to 19th century economics.
Governor Romney will talk about how much faster he would have brought back the economy.
Mr. Gingrich will talk about $2.50 gasoline, when he can stay on one topic.
Senator Santorum will talk about the necessity of returning to 13th century morality.
Representative Paul will talk about the necessity of returning to 19th century economics.
Fern
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The economy. It's far from back and while we see some improvement in areas we also see occasional setbacks. Kind of bouncing along not really doing much.
National debt/deficit.
Gas prices/energy policy.
Housing market.
ObamaCare still polls poorly. (I think, haven't checked lately TBH).
Those would be the suggestions ATM. I'd also suggest they stay away from their usual social issues (gay marriage, abortion etc.).
I'd even tell them to chill on big tax cuts. But well, that 'bus has already left the station' I suppose.
Fern
MovingTarget
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Pleaseohplease let it be contraception! Perhaps with that we can finally marginalize the radical right that now has a stranglehold on the GOP.
Socialist, muslim, communist, marxist, anti jew(just look at spidey going in overdrive on this), anti gun, lies about raising taxes... so nonsense like usual.
soundforbjt
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Same things as they have for 30 years to fix economy.
Lower taxes for rich & corps.
Less regulations for the "job" creators.
Talk about "small" government while trying to get more government in the bedroom and woman's health.
You know, the usual.
Lower taxes for rich & corps.
Less regulations for the "job" creators.
Talk about "small" government while trying to get more government in the bedroom and woman's health.
You know, the usual.
Well, it won't be touting self regulated banking & the Ownership Society, fearmongering the Terrarist Threat!, Support the Troops! Or Job Creator! Tax cuts for supply side Reaganomics...
Whatever they say will be bullshit born of desperation... they'll say whatever they have to say to keep the faithful in the pews, bet on that...
Whatever they say will be bullshit born of desperation... they'll say whatever they have to say to keep the faithful in the pews, bet on that...
I don't know but reasonable platform planks would include and be limited exclusively to:
Tariffs for revenue only, not to protect special interests;
States' rights above all including repeal of Roe v Wade;
Suppression of inflation (i.e., money supply increases) and the ending of below market interest rates;
deregulation with defense of property rights;
repeal of Obamacare, Dodd-Frank, and SOx;
Immediately freeze the national budget at not more than $2.4Tn including a reduction of military expenditures to not more than 1/3 of their FY2012 levels, elimination of all corporate subsidies, and means testing for SS and MC;
no decrease in veteran's pensions;
IP reduction;
repeal of the PATRIOT Act;
abolition of the TSA;
all troops home on January 20, 2013;
an end to foreign intervention and overseas contingency operations;
Reduce the corporate tax rate to a maximum of 15% while replacing employer tax deductions for health care with personal tax deductions for all health care expenses;
adjustment of capital gains taxes for inflation while eliminating CG taxes on gold, silver, platinum, palladium, and copper;
Index the AMT for inflation;
People 25 and younger out of the SS/MC system.
Tariffs for revenue only, not to protect special interests;
States' rights above all including repeal of Roe v Wade;
Suppression of inflation (i.e., money supply increases) and the ending of below market interest rates;
deregulation with defense of property rights;
repeal of Obamacare, Dodd-Frank, and SOx;
Immediately freeze the national budget at not more than $2.4Tn including a reduction of military expenditures to not more than 1/3 of their FY2012 levels, elimination of all corporate subsidies, and means testing for SS and MC;
no decrease in veteran's pensions;
IP reduction;
repeal of the PATRIOT Act;
abolition of the TSA;
all troops home on January 20, 2013;
an end to foreign intervention and overseas contingency operations;
Reduce the corporate tax rate to a maximum of 15% while replacing employer tax deductions for health care with personal tax deductions for all health care expenses;
adjustment of capital gains taxes for inflation while eliminating CG taxes on gold, silver, platinum, palladium, and copper;
Index the AMT for inflation;
People 25 and younger out of the SS/MC system.
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Doc Savage Fan
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I'd imagine these will be many of the talking points. In addition, anything that President Obama brings up will be discussed as well.
In addition, any major issues that arise will be discussed.
Maybe that's because of the way that the big pie is divided up into small pieces-
http://economistsview.typepad.com/e...unequal-income-gains-during-the-recovery.html
Obviously, Repubs won't be willing to touch the truth with a pole...
It's a function of Reaganomics, of poorly restrained free market capitalism. In good times, the Rich take a bigger piece. In bad times, the Rich take a bigger piece.
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Wealth disparity is an issue. The $64 question is how you solve the problem...increase taxes or incent job creation? Therein lies the rub.
ky54
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Doesn't matter what the Republican talking points might be the media will never take the discussion off the social issues where they can demonize the candidate and scare women, minorities, gays, and the old folks. The exact reason why no Republican will win because they allow the media to nose-lead them around chasing after one social issue after another. Look at what's being discussed now - is it the economy, the failure to secure Afghanistan, Iran, gas prices which are killing small businesses, etc? Nope, friggin' contraceptives. States will go 45-5 (and I'm being nice) Obama.
Of course, it's the media's fault the GOP can't stay on topic...how silly of us to think otherwise?
Didn't Bush win 2 elections pretty recently? How did he manage to do that with the 'liberal media' going against him?
Didn't Bush win 2 elections pretty recently? How did he manage to do that with the 'liberal media' going against him?
Doc Savage Fan
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There are a few elephants in the room that the media can't ignore when the Presidential debates start.
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