what will be expected Price-availability-performance of the upcoming socket 939

[nvfx]

Hey guys!!!

Today every one is recommending a 754 based 64 AMD. But i dont understand one thing. Why is there a quick shift from 754 to 939.

What will be its price and performance and also availability.

If a buy a 64 2800 today, will it be too slow compared to the up coming 939.

The bottom line is...

If one has no more than 220 $ to spend on CPU's, what should he do. Buy a 64 bit today or wait for 939

So what is this 939 all about???

 

[Soulkeeper]

it's a move to completely replace socket A in the mainstream/enthusiast/gamer/graphics/etc market
server stuff was most important with opteron now they are laying new cards on the table
939 will be dual channel ddr regular unregistered non ecc memory
it might have support for pci express or something too

could be interesting but i wouldn't expect any performance boosts over 10% from just this chipset/platform makeover

 

[exar333]

the price of the boards is going to be important too...i havnt heard any news of what they will be...the processors will likely be a little more, but with the lesser cache, i wouldnt expect them to be a LOT more vs. the current 3200 and 3400...

 

[Nickel020]

If you can afford to wait another month for the 939 to arrive, then wait. Even if you won't buy a 939, there should still be a price drop so you will get a 3000+ for the same price you would pay for a 2800+ now. That's the way it usually works, a new high-end CPU is introduced (3700+) and the old high-end CPU (3400+) as well as everything below gets cheaper.

 

[DragonFire]

From what I have read and can remember, socket 939 is the way to go. I believe 754 will end up being the replacement for socketA and consider the lowend. Socket 939 will have dual channel memory support wheres 754 wont. There is supposed to be one of the reasons why 939 cpus will only have half the cache as there supposed to still perform better then 754 because of the dual channel. I also dont think socket 754 is planned to have pic express which is something almost all next gen video cards will be.

Also it was just recently that AMD decided to keep producing chips for 754, as not to long ago the platform was supposed to be shortlived.

 

[ColossusX]

I have also read recently that Socket754 will become the new DURON, for budget systems. Socket 939 should be worth the wait.

 

[coolred]

I have also read recently that Socket754 will become the new DURON, for budget systems. Socket 939 should be worth the wait.

I wouldn't really call it the new Duron. While socket 754 will eventually be used for the budget range of CPU's, those CPU's will be based on the Paris core, which is basically an Athlon XP ported over to the K8 architecture, but lacking 64 bit support. SO while it will be a budget CPU, it will be an Athlon XP.

 

[imported_Onizuka]

The 939 will be significantly more expensive than $220. They will be priced more than the A64 3400+ that is currently at $389 for oem. The A64 has not dropped in price very much since I was shopping around 3 month ago for an A64 setup. Three month ago, the A64 3200+ was $285 for retail, now, it's $279. Wow, a whole $6! Wait a good 6 month after debut of the 939 before it actually hits around the $300 at this rate. It's going to be more expensive than the $389 price of the A64 3400+ which would be safe to say that it'll cost around $500 when it is released.

 

[nycxandy]

Originally posted by: Onizuka
The 939 will be significantly more expensive than $220. They will be priced more than the A64 3400+ that is currently at $389 for oem. The A64 has not dropped in price very much since I was shopping around 3 month ago for an A64 setup. Three month ago, the A64 3200+ was $285 for retail, now, it's $279. Wow, a whole $6! Wait a good 6 month after debut of the 939 before it actually hits around the $300 at this rate. It's going to be more expensive than the $389 price of the A64 3400+ which would be safe to say that it'll cost around $500 when it is released.

And where are you getting this info?

 

[RockGuitarDude]

Has to be wrong... less cache will let them introduce it a lower price and still make a killing.. it may be more than the current chips but as soon as the supply is reasonable it won't be much more than 754... give it a month or 2 after release to get real prices..

 

[imported_Onizuka]

There is no competition in the 64-bit processor. Why would they want to lower there price significantly if no one is forcing them too? Sell less at a higher price will produce about the same profit as selling more at a lower price. They can do it because there is currently no 64-bit processor from Intel for the mass market.

 

[Bar81]

Originally posted by: Onizuka
There is no competition in the 64-bit processor. Why would they want to lower there price significantly if no one is forcing them too? Sell less at a higher price will produce about the same profit as selling more at a lower price. They can do it because there is currently no 64-bit processor from Intel for the mass market.

Exactly. Remember, not only will they only be introducing premium speed grades on S939 but supply will be short for the rest of the year so that will help drive up prices. AMD is playing it's best Intel right now; why do you think you're still waiting for S939...

 

[coolred]

They can do it because there is currently no 64-bit processor from Intel for the mass market.

How does this really make a differance? Sure intel isn't putting any 64 bit pressure on them yet, but by the same respect you can't say these processors are really selling for thier 64 bit performance since there is almost no 64 bit software available yet.

 

[boban10]

i wannt to buy new a64 too... i wait some time to see what the prices will be for socket 939 cpu-s, in the begining there will be only two socket 939 cpu. a64 3500+ and a64 3800+ and i think the prices will be highhhhh and that is not good for amd...we all liked amd for their prices...maybe when socket 939 cpus come out..then socket 755 cpu will come down to price...only that can save amd in higher end..

 

[Mik3y]

well, when the new generations of xp class processors become socket 754, should we see an increase in performance and hte creation of a 3400+ or higher cpu? also, are the new xp class cpu's still going to be based on the barton core? or somehting different?

 

[joe2004]

The ball is in Intel court. If Intel does not come with something more impressive soon you will see outrageous AMD 939 prices. That is my guess. And do not expect AMD can break much higher than 2.6 GHz this year with AMD 64. That is my guess. We'll see 3700+ and perhaps 4000+ later in the year. Unless Intel comes with something radically better than what they have now. 754 is good at least for another 6-10 months.