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What weighs more?

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Water because it's got a higher density.

correct, thats why ice floats

at 4 degrees centigrade the hydrogen bonds are stretched out as far as possible and the ice is least dense and most voloumunus
 
A long time ago when I was in middle school I asked a couple guys this question and they both got it wrong. When I told them they were wrong they went and asked a teacher who ALSO got it wrong. It was hilarious.
 
Originally posted by: AvesPKS
Originally posted by: notfred
Water.

Ever notice that ice floats?

So, by inductive logic, steel is less dense than water because it floats? 😛

no.. steel only floats if it is shaped in such a way to displace enough water (i.e. a ships hull)
 
Originally posted by: AvesPKS
Originally posted by: notfred
Water.

Ever notice that ice floats?

So, by inductive logic, steel is less dense than water because it floats? 😛

solid steel doesn't float. Next time you shape an ice cube into a boat, you can challenge my answer.
 
Originally posted by: AvesPKS
Originally posted by: notfred
Water.

Ever notice that ice floats?

So, by inductive logic, steel is less dense than water because it floats? 😛

steel floats? 😕 lay of the hash dude.

boats float for a different reason but you could just make a steel ball like a shot put and throw it in to water and expect it to float.
 
Originally posted by: dnetmhz
Originally posted by: AvesPKS
Originally posted by: notfred
Water.

Ever notice that ice floats?

So, by inductive logic, steel is less dense than water because it floats? 😛

no.. steel only floats if it is shaped in such a way to displace enough water (i.e. a ships hull)

A paperclip will 'float' on water...😛

Edit: I know what you guys are saying. I was just playing devil's advocate. 😛
 
Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: AvesPKS
Originally posted by: notfred
Water.

Ever notice that ice floats?

So, by inductive logic, steel is less dense than water because it floats? 😛

solid steel doesn't float. Next time you shape an ice cube into a boat, you can challenge my answer.

But I thought we've already established that ice floats no matter what? 🙂
 
Originally posted by: AvesPKS
Originally posted by: dnetmhz
Originally posted by: AvesPKS
Originally posted by: notfred
Water.

Ever notice that ice floats?

So, by inductive logic, steel is less dense than water because it floats? 😛

no.. steel only floats if it is shaped in such a way to displace enough water (i.e. a ships hull)

A paperclip will 'float' on water...😛


Only because it is not heavy enough to break the surface tension of the water.. try adding a drop of soap to the water and see what happens 😉
 
I'm not sure how you would classify a "gallon" of ice.... gallon is typically a volumetric measurement, but usually used for JUST fluids.

If you're talking about the same VOLUME, the water would weigh more.

If you're talking about freezing a gallon of water into ice, they would weigh the same thing (but of course, the ice would take up more volume). 🙂

As far as the "steel boat" floating--recall that the water "sees" displaced volume--which in a boat's case, includes a LOT of air. Most Civil Engineering departments enter a "concrete canoe" contest annually--and yep, they really do make a concrete canoe (and if you fill them with water, they'll sink like a rock!... they have to make sure they don't take on any water... they BARELY float with a couple people inside). 🙂

And AvesPKS--that's surface tension. 🙂 (but I bet you knew that)
 
floating pennies are the best though 🙂 but yeah as water freezes, it expand therefore theres less water in gallon of ice than gallon of water
 
Originally posted by: dnetmhz
Originally posted by: AvesPKS
Originally posted by: dnetmhz
Originally posted by: AvesPKS
Originally posted by: notfred
Water.

Ever notice that ice floats?

So, by inductive logic, steel is less dense than water because it floats? 😛

no.. steel only floats if it is shaped in such a way to displace enough water (i.e. a ships hull)

A paperclip will 'float' on water...😛


Only because it is not heavy enough to break the surface tension of the water.. try adding a drop of soap to the water and see what happens 😉

I know all of this to be true...all I was trying to convey was that to an unscientific mind, floating might not be the best way to determine weight. 😛
 
Originally posted by: AvesPKS
Originally posted by: dnetmhz
Originally posted by: AvesPKS
Originally posted by: dnetmhz
Originally posted by: AvesPKS
Originally posted by: notfred
Water.

Ever notice that ice floats?

So, by inductive logic, steel is less dense than water because it floats? 😛

no.. steel only floats if it is shaped in such a way to displace enough water (i.e. a ships hull)

A paperclip will 'float' on water...😛


Only because it is not heavy enough to break the surface tension of the water.. try adding a drop of soap to the water and see what happens 😉

I know all of this to be true...all I was trying to convey was that to an unscientific mind, floating might not be the best way to determine weight. 😛

gotcha, you are correct 😉
 
Originally posted by: AvesPKS<brI know all of this to be true...all I was trying to convey was that to an unscientific mind, floating might not be the best way to determine weight. 😛

Yep.... "floating" can be caused by lots of phenomena--if you define "float" as "sits on top of" (there's probably a rigid scientific definition). Ever seen those neat little bugs that "walk" on the surface of the water? Its very neat. Also, you can "float" lots of objects on evaporating liquids because of the compressible gas "bubble" underneath them (its really fun with liquid nitrogen).
 
Originally posted by: maladroit
Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: AvesPKS
Originally posted by: notfred
Water.

Ever notice that ice floats?

So, by inductive logic, steel is less dense than water because it floats? 😛

solid steel doesn't float. Next time you shape an ice cube into a boat, you can challenge my answer.

But I thought we've already established that ice floats no matter what? 🙂

Actually, I beleive that at very specific conditions, with very pure ice and water, you can make ice sink.
 
Originally posted by: notfred
Water.

Ever notice that ice floats?

Ice floats because it has less density than water. The angle of the H20 molecule forces an exapsion of the total mass when it's movement is slowed down and layered like bricks.

It is Ice, because more oxygen becomes trapped into it increasing it's total mass, and mass/gravity is responsible for weight.
 
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