What was the first watch in space?

AnitaPeterson

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fascinating read, thank you for sharing this with us...
I guess I'll hunt for a few of these on my own.
 

GasX

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Originally posted by: AnitaPeterson
fascinating read, thank you for sharing this with us...
I guess I'll hunt for a few of these on my own.

Well, the watch I got can be had in 2 versions.

The original vintage version will cost anything from ~$50 up to a LOT more based on who you get it from and the condition it is in. Poljot released a modern "re-release" recently which costs about $140.

Mine was on the cheap end of the vintage scale as the face has been refinished and the hands are non-original. Still, when I put a nice band on it, it will be a very nice (and historical) watch for <$100.

A lot of the Russian "space" watches can be had in vintage and re-issue versions. The vintage versions range from a $100-200 to well over $1000 based on condition. The re-issues are usually in the $300-400 range.

Also, for many, the ultimate space watch is the Omega Speedmaster Chronometer, which was the first watch on the moon.
 

UTmtnbiker

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Very cool. I'm going to have to keep my eyes open for these as they come up on eBay. Never had any idea as I've always been an Omega fan (knew about the Speedmaster and NASA).
 

GasX

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Originally posted by: thirdeye
Thought for sure it was a Rolex GMT.
check it

The history of the Omega Speedmaster begins in 1943 when Omega launched the movement "27 CHRO C12"; CHRO for Chronograph, 27 for the movements diameter in mm and C12 for the 12-hour totalizer. The movement was designed by Albert Piguet. From 1946 it was available with a shock protection system and antimagnetic balance spring. Omega's name for the "27 CHRO C12" was "321". The movement was available in a number of cases ranging from 32,5 to 37,5 mm. The case for the Speedmaster was designed by Claude Baillod and in January 1959 Lemania started production. In 1958 began the sales of what was to be THE most well known chronograph. In 1960 the bezel was replaced with a black one, the hands were changed from arrow shaped to "dauphine" and the case diameter grew from 39 to 40 mm. 1965 began the work of designing a new movement and in August 1968 began the assembly of the first "861- calibre" movements. The new movement meant increased frequency from 18,000 (2,5Hz) to 21,600 (3Hz) vibrations per hour. By now the Speedmaster was well into the space program and in April 1966 the addition "Professional" was made to the dial of the Speedmaster to commemorate the debut in space.

The Speedmaster in space
In 1964 NASA sent two employes out to "incognito" purchase five reputable chronographs to be tested for possible use in space. The Mercury program was almost complete and the coming Gemini program with schduled "space-walks" would require a watch that could withstand the extreme conditions in space. After the first round of tests two of thw five brands were disqualified and after the second round there was only one left... On September 29 1964 NASA ordered twelve Speedmasters from the US Omega importer. They paid retail price, $ 82.50 for the watches and wanted them delivered by October 21. Meanwhile NASA arranged for a series of test to finally determine what watch to use in space. The watches had to cope with:
High temperature: 48 hours at 71º C followed by 30 minutes at 93º C. This under a pressure of 0,35atm and relative humidity not over 15%.
Low temperature: Four hours at -18º C.
Temperature-pressure: 0,000001atm and temperature raised to 71º C. Temperature then lowered to -18º C in 45 minutes and again raised to 71º C in 45 minutes. This cycle was repeated fifteen times.
Relative humidity: 240 hours in relatuve humidity of at least 95% and at temperatures varying between 20º C and 71º C. The steam had a pH value of between 6,5 and 7,5.
Oxygen atmosphere: Exposure to 100% oxygen atmosphere at a pressure of 0,35atm and a temperature of 71º C for 48 hours.
Shock: Six 11 millisecond shocks of 40g each in six different directions.
Acceleration: Linear acceleration from 1g to 7,25g within 333 seconds.
Decompression: 90 minutes in a vaccum of 0,000001atm and a temperature of 71º C and 30 minutes in the same vaccum but at a temperature of 93ºC.
High pressure: Exposure to 1,6atm for one hour.
Vibration: Three cycles of 30 minutes (lateral, horizontal and vertical), the frequency varying from 5 to 2000cps and back to 5cps in 15 minutes. Average acceleration per impulse 8,8g.
Acoustic noise: 130db over a frequency range from 40 to 10000Hz for 30 minutes.
The tests were completed on March 1, 1965. Three chronographs from different manufacturers were still running, but only the Speedmaster had passed without any of the serious troubles that had occured with the two others (twisted hands, warped crystals...). NASA stated: "Operational and environmental tests ot the three selected chronographs have been completed, and, as a result of the test, Omega chronographs have been calibrated and issued to three members of the GT-3 crews." The "GT-3" (Gemini-Titan III) took of 04.52 March 23, 1964 with the astronauts John Young and Virgil Grissom on board. On the next Gemini flight (IV) Edward White left the capsule and became the first American to walk in space. On his wrist was the Speedmaster.
Omega became aware of the Speedmaster being used in space as late as April 1966. The advertising of the Speedmaster changed to "space-watch" and Omega added the word Professional to the dial of the Speedmaster. The biggest moment came when Neil Armstrong on July 21 at 02.56 GMT set foot on the moon. Once again the Speedmaster was a part of history. In fact Armstrong wore Edwin Aldrin's watch because he had left his own back in the capsule with Michael Collins. During the dramatic flight of Apollo XIII the Speedmaster helped the commander James Lovell to time the firing of the secondary rockets that would take the ship out of lunar orbit and back to earth. For this Omega was awarded the "Snoopy award" by the astronauts. When the americans met the soviets in space in the Apollo-Soyuz "rendez-vouz", both crews were equipped with Speedmasters. In September 1978 NASA arranged a new series of tests to establish what watch to use for the comming Space Shuttle missions and the Speedmaster was again the only watch that that stood up to the test.

TEXT FROM: Omega S.A, "THE MOON WATCH" book

 

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Originally posted by: Mwilding
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I have one of the Poljot replicas. Cool watch.

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Nice. What does the knob at 9:00 do?

That knob turns the outer indicator ring (the one with the 12:00 pointer and the hour numbers). The button at 2:00 is the start/stop for the stopwatch (red hand), and the one at 4:00 is the reset. The left face dial is the seconds indication and the right face dial is the minute counter for the stopwatch.
 

GasX

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Originally posted by: KMcThat knob turns the outer indicator ring (the one with the 12:00 pointer and the hour numbers).
Cool, so it acts like a rudimentary GMT function, right? That's great for travelling!
 

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I've heard of Bill Yao and IWW but haven't checked out North East Watch Works yet. That one in the link you gave is beautiful, I might have to check into that. I've been thinking about modding mine with that type of bezel and a face with this this style.

I saw a few of the Shturmanskie's on ebay and am thinking about throwing a bid on a few. I'll let you know if I get one.

EDIT: Here is exactly the style I'm looking for, time to get a price estimate and scrap some money together :)
 

GasX

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Originally posted by: stratking
EDIT: Here is exactly the style I'm looking for, time to get a price estimate and scrap some money together :)
For a boring Japanese watch, that sure is nice! :)

 

stratking

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Haha, yeah. I thought there were Seiko/Citizen style watches for us broke folks, and then the Swiss movements for the rich folks. I've been checking out these old Russian pieces and really liking the quality and design for the price. Thanks for helping me spend my tax return.