What video card wont be bottlenecked by my 2.4ghz E660

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Lifer
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thats not really an easy question to answer and it would help if you were not so vague. in general that cpu will provide a playable framerate in basically every game out there. the resolution and particular game will determine how much of bottleneck that cpu will be with a certain card. even at 1680 or 1920, I personally would not use anything faster than a gtx260 if I had that cpu and was not willing to overclock it. lower than 1680 then I would not go higher than something like a gts250 or so.
 
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Lifer
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lOnGjOhN said:
I'm trying to play new to newish games at med high settings at 1680x1050 for under 150
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at this point I am thinking something like a 5750 would be a decent choice but what does the rest of your pc look like? by that I mean what OS are you running, how much ram, exact power supply and such. when you ask questions like this you need to provide as much info as possible.
 
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HD 5750 isn't a really good choice, I'd lean towards a HD 5770. It'll do fine with a 2,4GHz Core 2 Duo.
 
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With $150, there's no reason to limit your gfx card choice based on CPU "bottleneck". After all, in some games (GTA?) the E6600 is a major limiting factor, whereas in others it is more than enough to drive a $150 card.

Also, check that your PSU can handle your choice of new gfx card.
 
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betasub said:
With $150, there's no reason to limit your gfx card choice based on CPU "bottleneck". After all, in some games (GTA?) the E6600 is a major limiting factor, whereas in others it is more than enough to drive a $150 card.

Also, check that your PSU can handle your choice of new gfx card.
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being enough to drive a card and fully utilizing it are two different things though. anyway for $150 a 5750 is okay for 1680 and a 5770 would be even better if he can find one for that price. unless he has a total pos of a power supply he should have no issues with either of those cards.
 
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try overclocking your e6600 to at least 3.0ghz if you can. Then get a 5770 and you should be set!
 
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My e6600 did 3.6ghz with an AC Freezer Pro 7, and I paired it up with two 9600GSO cards.
Seemed like a good setup considering I paid $80 AR for the vid cards.

Seriously, you need to explore the OC potential of the chip.
 
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Aftermarket heatsink, overclock, 5770. Done. The E6600 was a classic chip for me and my buddies. Two of them still run it @ 3.6 on h20, but I had to make the quad core switch. For games other than GTA, etc., get a 5770 and you won't have much problems.
 
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Lifer
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MarcVenice said:
Oh and in case you want a hypothetical answer, a GTX 285 won't be bottlenecked by your cpu either: http://alienbabeltech.com/main/?p=13454
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I dont care what he says because that is not true for many games. even the other day in Mass Effect I fired it up forgetting that my cpu was at 2.4. I had been playing some older games so I had lowered my cpu speed from my 3.8 oc. anyway Mass Effect was dropping down in the mid to low 20s at times and I thought was a driver issue at first and until I remembered that my cpu was lowered. with it at 2.4 the game ran like ass in some spots on high settings. I put my cpu back to stock speed and in those same spots I did not go below mid 30s. with my cpu at 3.8 i stayed in the very high 30s for lows and my average was much better and smoother than with my cpu at stock 3.16 or especially 2.4. the OPs cpu at 2.4 would be even slower with lower cache and reduced fsb. it DOES make a difference in many games and that is fact.

yes in MOST games there wont be a playable difference but in those where there is he would get a noticeable improvement by bumping his cpu up a bit. even in games where there isnt a playable difference he can still usually get a few more fps by overclocking that cpu if he is running a fast card.
 
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You can always find something to rain on someones parade, don't you? I didn't say he shouldn't oc his cpu, I simply said he shouldn't worry about being bottlenecked, coz even a GTX 285 doesn't really get bottlenecked at 1680*1050. And oc-ing his cpu isn't completely necesary. Nor is upgrading it, because every dime he spends on a new cpu, is a dime he can't spend on a gpu, which in fact would give a far bigger improvement then a new cpu would. Case closed ...
 
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You can always find something to rain on someones parade, don't you? I didn't say he shouldn't oc his cpu, I simply said he shouldn't worry about being bottlenecked, coz even a GTX 285 doesn't really get bottlenecked at 1680*1050. And oc-ing his cpu isn't completely necesary. Nor is upgrading it, because every dime he spends on a new cpu, is a dime he can't spend on a gpu, which in fact would give a far bigger improvement then a new cpu would. Case closed ...
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and I am saying that overclocking IS necessary for a few games if he wants them to be smooth and play close to their best for what he has to work with.
 
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toyota said:
and I am saying that overclocking IS necessary for a few games if he wants them to be smooth and play close to their best for what he has to work with.
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What if he can't, or doesn't want to or simply won't? You going to recommend a 9600GT instead, or a HD 5670, because it will be bottlenecked less? Or will you be sensible and acknowledge that a HD 5770 or even a GTX 285 is going to give more enjoyable framerates then a 9600GT, EVEN THOUGH it might drop to below 30fps once in a while because of the cpu?
 
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Lifer
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MarcVenice said:
What if he can't, or doesn't want to or simply won't? You going to recommend a 9600GT instead, or a HD 5670, because it will be bottlenecked less? Or will you be sensible and acknowledge that a HD 5770 or even a GTX 285 is going to give more enjoyable framerates then a 9600GT, EVEN THOUGH it might drop to below 30fps once in a while because of the cpu?
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in that case I would probably pick the 5750 over the 5770 especially since the 5750 is better suited to his budget. what somebody chooses to do in the end is up to them but I am certainly going to present ALL sides of the story.
 
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My c2d @ 2.6ghz was a bottleneck for my 8800 gts 640mb

So please do not say that it isn't a bottleneck for a 285 this is going to spread FUD.

Here is the testing I did. I ran 2 benchmarks 5 times each at two different resolutions. Crysis and l4d. I overclocked the processor 20&#37; and reran them. In both games I saw gains with my 8800gts. I can imagine the gains would be even more significant with a more powerful card, but it was what convinced me to upgrade to a q9550.
 
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MarcVenice said:
You can always find something to rain on someones parade, don't you? I didn't say he shouldn't oc his cpu, I simply said he shouldn't worry about being bottlenecked, coz even a GTX 285 doesn't really get bottlenecked at 1680*1050. And oc-ing his cpu isn't completely necesary. Nor is upgrading it, because every dime he spends on a new cpu, is a dime he can't spend on a gpu, which in fact would give a far bigger improvement then a new cpu would. Case closed ...
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I have to agree with you there.

OP you have few choices around that price range. You can play anything max graphic settings just fine with your CPU. Sure more frames could be had with faster CPU but E6600 is still content except for a few games that are quad optimized or crappy ports.

Here's a good one but older RV790 style GPU. Similar to 4890 except lower clocks and few less shader. Very good value if you ask me. Good as 4870/4890 if overclocked. Very good deal for $120 after rebate.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102866

Then you have 5750 like Toyota mentioned. It might be a good overclocker and has new features like DX11 and SSAA but you aren't going to use SSAA @ that resolution with this card nor will you want dx11 medium detail over DX9/10 max detail. I don't think this card isn't as good as the card above but it does eat less watts.
 
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digitaldurandal said:
My c2d @ 2.6ghz was a bottleneck for my 8800 gts 640mb

So please do not say that it isn't a bottleneck for a 285 this is going to spread FUD.

Here is the testing I did. I ran 2 benchmarks 5 times each at two different resolutions. Crysis and l4d. I overclocked the processor 20% and reran them. In both games I saw gains with my 8800gts. I can imagine the gains would be even more significant with a more powerful card, but it was what convinced me to upgrade to a q9550.
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Crysis is GPU limited. I don't know what settings you benched but in high detail or max your frames won't even budge even with I7 @ 4ghz with a 8800gts. As for L4D it's an old engine even a E6600 has no problems spitting out 80-100fps.
 
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OP, is there any particular reason why your E6600 is OC'ed? 3.2GHz is relatively easy to get and 3.6GHz is achievable with a litte finessing.
As far as bottlenecking, I've been happily using a 5850 with my E6600 (@ 3.6GHz on a 965P-DS3 Rev 1.0).
 
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