Ok guys heres the deal, I am currently building a new computer for myself and I was wondering what is the best GCard for performance/ price. I will spend up to $200, but I'd rather spend around the mid $100s (cause im cheap =p). My processor is most likely going to be the new Newcastle socket 939 3500+. I was also wondering if theres any truth to the rumour, that Nvidia runs better than ATI on AMD systems. I'd appreciate any input you guys have for me.
What Video Card Should I Buy?
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In that price range for an A64 an ATI 9800Pro 256bit is your best choice pretty much hands down untill the 6600GT or X700 come to AGP
If I were you I would recommednd spending a little more on the graphics card and getting a 6800 GT for $400 or 6800 vanilla for $250 because if you get a card in the $200 range it will be bottlenecking that awesome cpu. But if you cant go over 200 for the graphics card I would wait for the 6600 GT to come out in AGP.
And that I know of there is no truth in the rumor that ATI runs worse than Nvidia on AMD system
And that I know of there is no truth in the rumor that ATI runs worse than Nvidia on AMD system
Doesn't this belong in the video section? My vote is wait for nvidia's AGP 6600s to come out, but I admit gaming cards are not my specialty since I prefer consoles (no upgrades for years on end ^^).
edit: lol, 3 mentions of 6600 in as many minutes.
edit: lol, 3 mentions of 6600 in as many minutes.
I'm adding to the list, 6600GT will be ~$200 range. I'd definately wait for it. As for the rumor, nVidia doesn't perform better with the Nforce chipset (I'm guessing that's what you heard).
My bad, Im new to this forum and didn't see it.
Anyways one more question, why would I go AGP, when PCI Express is faster. I thought PCI Express was the furture for GFX Cards?????
Sry to be such a newb on video cards
At this point in time, I'd say the 6600GT is your best bet. The fact is, the 9800Pro is still a good card, but it's definitely already showing its age, particularly on newer games, i.e. Doom 3, FarCry, and HL: Source. These engines are the engines of the next few years, so I'd be worried if buying one today. Also, if you do decide you need to upgrade in the future, your options on AGP will be pretty limited. On the other hand, the 6600GT, and even the X700XT to an extent, give you something on par with 9800XT performance, for 200 bucks. Also, if you need to upgrade, you can easily find a PCI-express card, or throw in another 6600GT for cheap, if you have an SLI board. nForce4 looks great, from its hardware firewall (low CPU usage) to its SATA-II support. And nVidia has stated that the nForce4 chipset has been tweaked to run GeForce 6 series GPUs optimally. I doubt it's going to be a huge difference, but I expect it'll be in the neighborhood of 1-2%, which is nonetheless a good thing.
One last thing - I'd recommend looking for a lower end CPU before cutting money from your video card. If you play games, any money you spend upgrading your video card will yield much better performance than a faster CPU. For example, the difference between the 3200+ and 3500+ is 80 bucks, while the performance gains are roughly 8%. Look at the percent difference between a 9800 Pro and a 6800 - also an $80-100 difference, and you yield speed gains of around 30-50%. Also, the 3200 and 3000 are 90nm parts, and overclock really well - 2.6GHz is not unreasonable for either model, on only high end air.
One last thing - I'd recommend looking for a lower end CPU before cutting money from your video card. If you play games, any money you spend upgrading your video card will yield much better performance than a faster CPU. For example, the difference between the 3200+ and 3500+ is 80 bucks, while the performance gains are roughly 8%. Look at the percent difference between a 9800 Pro and a 6800 - also an $80-100 difference, and you yield speed gains of around 30-50%. Also, the 3200 and 3000 are 90nm parts, and overclock really well - 2.6GHz is not unreasonable for either model, on only high end air.
The thing is I found a rlly good deal on the processor ($206). You make a good point, Im going to have to think on that. You guys have rlly helped me a lot. I was wondering what do you guys think of this card?
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Vanilla 6800 maybe if you can afford it/get a good deal, otherwise wait for the 6600 GT (AGP, unless you must buy into NF4 immediately). Or, downgrade your processor to the 90nm 3000+ or 3200+ (all of those new 90nm procs overclock to 2.6 GHz just the same, IIRC, and neither one would bottleneck your system at stock), and assuming you already have a gig of decent RAM, spring for a 6800 or 6800 GT.
(Edit: Ah, I just saw you prefer mid-$100s if you can. That'll be even tougher to get something that will run games very good in the near future, but you can try an ATI 9800 vanilla or a 9600 XT. Not really recommended though--and you'd benefit more with a bit lesser processor but a better graphics card anyway.)
(Edit: Ah, I just saw you prefer mid-$100s if you can. That'll be even tougher to get something that will run games very good in the near future, but you can try an ATI 9800 vanilla or a 9600 XT. Not really recommended though--and you'd benefit more with a bit lesser processor but a better graphics card anyway.)
the problem is he said he wanted a card now, he has a 90nm Socket 939CPU their are no PCI Express motherboards for this platform and their won't be for at least a month, so he neads an AGP card currently for under $200 a 9800Pro is your best bet but if he's going to wait for a PCI Express platform or an AGP 6600GT then it would be a more future proof bet.
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