What to look for to ensure coffee doesnt' taste "bright"?

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Is there anything I can look for on the packaging when I go to buy coffee to ensure that it doesn't end up tasting too bright? Like certain regions?

I really hate the bright, acidic aftertaste that some coffees leave. I'm not sure if people consider this as a "sweet" or "floral" taste? I just want a smooth cup with a neutral finish. I recently bought a bag of Harris Signature Blend and I hate it. I've tried another random, cheaper brand and it was good.

I'm in Australia, otherwise I would consider just buying like McDonald's McCafe ground coffee or something, but I can't get it here.
 

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There is bright, and there is overly acidic. Some bright coffees are okay to me, while others are almost instantly give me heartburn or reflux. I am a fan of floral notes, though. If you want earthier coffee with low acidity, go for medium roasts from Africa (Ethiopia and Kenya). If you want smoother and less floral notes than those, go for Carribean/island coffee, like Kona or Jamaican Blue Mountain.

South and some Central American coffees tend to be brighter, except for some Costa Rican and maybe Nicaraguan that have more body. I'm not a fan of most South American coffee because of that. Lighter roasting will yield more caffeine and less acidity generally, regardless of origin. Blends are a crapshoot.
 
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There is bright, and there is acidic. If you want earthier coffee with low acidity, go for medium roasts from Africa (Ethiopia and Kenya). If you want smoother and less floral notes than those, go for Carribean/island coffee, like Kona or Jamaican Blue Mountain.

South and some Central American coffees tend to be brighter, except for Costa Rican.

I guess I'm confused on some of the terms people use to describe taste. Some have been described as sweet with notes of chocolate and honey. That actually wouldn't have anything to do with how acidic it would be, right?

I definitely want low acidity. So medium roasts from Africa or Costa Rica (lower elevations?).

What are "floral" notes? Like it actually tastes perfume-y and flower-y? I've enjoyed Kona in the past. Those shouldn't be acidic, right?

So the more acidic coffees all tend to be from South America. I've noticed that a lot of the European coffee brands tend to be acidic (I more or less dislike all "premium" coffees from Harris, Lavazza, Illy, etc), so many of them must source from South America then, or is it because the European brands all seem to be dark roasts?
 

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There are multiple variables in making a good cup of coffee, the beans you use is only one of them. The coffee pot has to be CLEAN, The water needs to be at least 190 F. The beans need to be ground just before making the coffee. The water should not be 'softened.' Don't leave the grounds sitting over the brewed coffee.
 

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Buy random, cheaper brands.

"Bright" is seen as desirable among the people who buy gourmet coffee and then never actually drink it.
 

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There are multiple variables in making a good cup of coffee, the beans you use is only one of them. The coffee pot has to be CLEAN, The water needs to be at least 190 F. The beans need to be ground just before making the coffee. The water should not be 'softened.' Don't leave the grounds sitting over the brewed coffee.

Nope its pretty much just the brand/blend.
 

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I'll bet you like Sanka.

Haha actually Yuban (kraft) changed their blend and it went from being the best tasting coffee I ever had to giving me a guaranteed headache. Whatever arabica blend they have in there, is terrible. And I've had much better luck with the historically non 100% arabica coffee beans now.

I prefer something like maxwell house over those 100% arabica bean coffees.

Green Mountain does taste similar though. Unfortunately its only in Keurig cups I think. Lame.
 
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I guess I'm confused on some of the terms people use to describe taste. Some have been described as sweet with notes of chocolate and honey. That actually wouldn't have anything to do with how acidic it would be, right?

I definitely want low acidity. So medium roasts from Africa or Costa Rica (lower elevations?).

What are "floral" notes? Like it actually tastes perfume-y and flower-y? I've enjoyed Kona in the past. Those shouldn't be acidic, right?

So the more acidic coffees all tend to be from South America. I've noticed that a lot of the European coffee brands tend to be acidic (I more or less dislike all "premium" coffees from Harris, Lavazza, Illy, etc), so many of them must source from South America then, or is it because the European brands all seem to be dark roasts?

A lot of the flavor notes you might see in descriptions or reviews are for single origin coffee beans. "Brightness" does relate to acidity, but the flavors people can detect won't tell you much about acidity - that's more a function of the roast and how much ground coffee you are using per cup. A very bright coffee will be acidic, but not all coffees described as bright are acidic... at least to me. It comes down to personal taste, really.

Floral notes are just subtle aromas/flavors (it's hard to separate smell from taste since smell does affect taste) of, well, flowers. It's not overwhelming and honestly I never tasted floral notes until my first cup of peaberry (specifically, Tanzanian) coffee. I get the distinct impression that, like for wine, half the experts and amateurs are just making up or placebo effect/imagining some of the stuff they describe. :D

Since then I've picked up more floral, citrus, and berry flavors in African coffees in particular, though, but a lot of it is dependent on estate, how green the coffee is, roast, etc. Coffee and chocolate are VERY similar because they are both essentially roasted cherry-like berries, so don't be surprised if you discover chocolate (cacao) notes as the first thing you can detect.

I'm still a relative newb when it comes to coffee, but since you are looking for low acidity and smooth coffee with some body, it's not hard to say start off with Indonesian, Kona, or Jamaican coffee, and then try Ethiopian Yirgacheffe, which is nore variable in regards to acidity. These are the "smooth" coffees, with my favorite being Jamaican Blue Mountain. Sublime with very little acidity. Unfortunately it's also one of the most expensive varieties, so I usually just get Ethiopian like Yirgacheffe (I cant ever spell that right) or Blue Nile. Kona and Blue Mountain are unfortunately often blended with other, cheaper varieties, so pay attention to packaging. Use a site like coffeereview if you want to find highly rated coffee that isn't too acidic or too bright. Just keep in mind that coffee can vary wildly in a region, and to pay attention to estates, as well.

I can't say for sure if Europeans generally get South American coffee, but I am sure darker roasts are preferred in most places in the U.S. and Europe, from what I've seen. That kills a lot of the flavor for me, adds some additional bitterness and acidity, and is usually lower caffeine (contrary to what the average person believes, lighter roasts usually have MORE caffeine, not less).

If you are preparing your coffee via anything other than drip, you'll be fine. Some coffee snobs swear over one method over another - and probably some version of pour over with a cold brew is the best - but I just use a french press with a hand crank burr grinder because it's easy, convenient, portable, and quick (non electric grinder proved damn useful during Sandy, too).
 
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Rather than starting a new thread I'll ask a question here. I drink 2 cups of coffee a day equaling around 30 grams of coffee. I just bought 2 - 3lb. bags of Eight O'clock original whole bean coffee. How should I use and store the unopened and opened bags of coffee?
 

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Rather than starting a new thread I'll ask a question here. I drink 2 cups of coffee a day equaling around 30 grams of coffee. I just bought 2 - 3lb. bags of Eight O'clock original whole bean coffee. How should I use and store the unopened and opened bags of coffee?

Unopened I keep on counter for a few days max. Once it's opened, I tightly close the bag, ziploc it, and put it in the freezer. Keeps for a few weeks that way (maybe longer... I usually use mine up before that long).

Anything more expensive than 8 o'clock - great value brand, have a 2lb bag in my freezer at the moment - I usually only keep out, have less than a lb, and use up within a few days of the roasting date. Beans go stale quickly and also need to be aired out daily if they are kept in a sealed container.
 
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Unopened I keep on counter for a few days max. Once it's opened, I tightly close the bag, ziploc it, and put it in the freezer. Keeps for a few weeks that way (maybe longer... I usually use mine up before that long).

Anything more expensive than 8 o'clock - great value brand, have a 2lb bag in my freezer at the moment - I usually only keep out, have less than a lb, and use up within a few days of the roasting date. Beans go stale quickly and also need to be aired out daily if they are kept in a sealed container.
Thank you Chrono for your advice. I will do as you suggest.
 

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Pfft I just put it in an airtight tupperware container and leave it on the counter. Freezing has its own issues like moisture/condensation getting into it when you take it out of the freezer over and over. Do whats best for you. I'd rather a loss of flavor rather than the funk of new flavors ;).

http://www.ncausa.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=70

So many people ask because there isn't one best solution. Thats why so many articles opine their thoughts on whatever special way they store it thats supposedly better. Fact it is just doesn't last that long. Just keep it airtight.
 
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