What the West Needs to Know About Islam.

[eits]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
go back to the second link in my post and see the descrimination faced by jews in iran.

Like other religious minorities in Iran, Jews suffer from officially sanctioned discrimination, particularly in the areas of employment, education, and housing. They may not occupy senior positions in the government or the military and are prevented from serving in the judiciary and security services and from becoming public school heads.

With some exceptions, there is little restriction of or interference with the Jewish religious practice; however, education of Jewish children has become more difficult in recent years. The Iranian government reportedly allows Hebrew instruction, recognizing that it is necessary for Jewish religious practice. However, it strongly discourages the distribution of Hebrew texts, in practice making it difficult to teach the language. Moreover, the Iranian government has required that several Jewish schools remain open on Saturdays, the Jewish Sabbath, in conformity with the schedule of other schools in the school system. Since working or attending school on the Sabbath violates Jewish law, this requirement has made it impossible for observant Jews both to attend school and adhere to a fundamental tenet of their religion

You have yet to bring up one disadvantage the Jews have in Iran that the Muslims do not.

just one?
i mean seriously, do you have no shame?

just stop, jeez. you lost. deal with it. you're wrong. aimster's right. just stop, already. everyone sees it plain as day but you.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
go back to the second link in my post and see the descrimination faced by jews in iran.

Like other religious minorities in Iran, Jews suffer from officially sanctioned discrimination, particularly in the areas of employment, education, and housing. They may not occupy senior positions in the government or the military and are prevented from serving in the judiciary and security services and from becoming public school heads.

With some exceptions, there is little restriction of or interference with the Jewish religious practice; however, education of Jewish children has become more difficult in recent years. The Iranian government reportedly allows Hebrew instruction, recognizing that it is necessary for Jewish religious practice. However, it strongly discourages the distribution of Hebrew texts, in practice making it difficult to teach the language. Moreover, the Iranian government has required that several Jewish schools remain open on Saturdays, the Jewish Sabbath, in conformity with the schedule of other schools in the school system. Since working or attending school on the Sabbath violates Jewish law, this requirement has made it impossible for observant Jews both to attend school and adhere to a fundamental tenet of their religion

You have yet to bring up one disadvantage the Jews have in Iran that the Muslims do not.

just one?
i mean seriously, do you have no shame?

just stop, jeez. you lost. deal with it. you're wrong. aimster's right. just stop, already. everyone sees it plain as day but you.

Would you honestly want to be an openly Jewish man living in Iran?

Aimster won nothing but spin. It's a well known fact that Jews are almost universally hated in the middle east, and the Arab countries have a LONG history of brutal discrimination against them. Being a Jew in Iran would be very much like being a black person in 1950s Alabama... Or did you think the whole hoopla over Israel was all about politics?

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
go back to the second link in my post and see the descrimination faced by jews in iran.

Like other religious minorities in Iran, Jews suffer from officially sanctioned discrimination, particularly in the areas of employment, education, and housing. They may not occupy senior positions in the government or the military and are prevented from serving in the judiciary and security services and from becoming public school heads.

With some exceptions, there is little restriction of or interference with the Jewish religious practice; however, education of Jewish children has become more difficult in recent years. The Iranian government reportedly allows Hebrew instruction, recognizing that it is necessary for Jewish religious practice. However, it strongly discourages the distribution of Hebrew texts, in practice making it difficult to teach the language. Moreover, the Iranian government has required that several Jewish schools remain open on Saturdays, the Jewish Sabbath, in conformity with the schedule of other schools in the school system. Since working or attending school on the Sabbath violates Jewish law, this requirement has made it impossible for observant Jews both to attend school and adhere to a fundamental tenet of their religion

You have yet to bring up one disadvantage the Jews have in Iran that the Muslims do not.

just one?
i mean seriously, do you have no shame?

just stop, jeez. you lost. deal with it. you're wrong. aimster's right. just stop, already. everyone sees it plain as day but you.

Would you honestly want to be an openly Jewish man living in Iran?

Aimster won nothing but spin. It's a well known fact that Jews are almost universally hated in the middle east, and the Arab countries have a LONG history of brutal discrimination against them. Being a Jew in Iran would be very much like being a black person in 1950s Alabama... Or did you think the whole hoopla over Israel was all about politics?

HAHA wrong as hell!

no one in iran really gives a crap. they really don't. iranians are more discriminatory against turks than jews.

iranian jews live life just like iranian muslims, except they go to church on saturday rather than friday.

edit: haha i'm still laughing about your ridiculous analogy linking the treatment of jews in iran to the treatment of blacks in '50s alabama.

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
go back to the second link in my post and see the descrimination faced by jews in iran.

Like other religious minorities in Iran, Jews suffer from officially sanctioned discrimination, particularly in the areas of employment, education, and housing. They may not occupy senior positions in the government or the military and are prevented from serving in the judiciary and security services and from becoming public school heads.

With some exceptions, there is little restriction of or interference with the Jewish religious practice; however, education of Jewish children has become more difficult in recent years. The Iranian government reportedly allows Hebrew instruction, recognizing that it is necessary for Jewish religious practice. However, it strongly discourages the distribution of Hebrew texts, in practice making it difficult to teach the language. Moreover, the Iranian government has required that several Jewish schools remain open on Saturdays, the Jewish Sabbath, in conformity with the schedule of other schools in the school system. Since working or attending school on the Sabbath violates Jewish law, this requirement has made it impossible for observant Jews both to attend school and adhere to a fundamental tenet of their religion

You have yet to bring up one disadvantage the Jews have in Iran that the Muslims do not.

just one?
i mean seriously, do you have no shame?

just stop, jeez. you lost. deal with it. you're wrong. aimster's right. just stop, already. everyone sees it plain as day but you.

sorry, religious discrimination of religious minorities is a simple fundamental fact of this regiem. sure some even have it worse than the jews of iran. but its not an arguement for anything positive to say about the regiem.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
go back to the second link in my post and see the descrimination faced by jews in iran.

Like other religious minorities in Iran, Jews suffer from officially sanctioned discrimination, particularly in the areas of employment, education, and housing. They may not occupy senior positions in the government or the military and are prevented from serving in the judiciary and security services and from becoming public school heads.

With some exceptions, there is little restriction of or interference with the Jewish religious practice; however, education of Jewish children has become more difficult in recent years. The Iranian government reportedly allows Hebrew instruction, recognizing that it is necessary for Jewish religious practice. However, it strongly discourages the distribution of Hebrew texts, in practice making it difficult to teach the language. Moreover, the Iranian government has required that several Jewish schools remain open on Saturdays, the Jewish Sabbath, in conformity with the schedule of other schools in the school system. Since working or attending school on the Sabbath violates Jewish law, this requirement has made it impossible for observant Jews both to attend school and adhere to a fundamental tenet of their religion

You have yet to bring up one disadvantage the Jews have in Iran that the Muslims do not.

just one?
i mean seriously, do you have no shame?

just stop, jeez. you lost. deal with it. you're wrong. aimster's right. just stop, already. everyone sees it plain as day but you.

Would you honestly want to be an openly Jewish man living in Iran?

Aimster won nothing but spin. It's a well known fact that Jews are almost universally hated in the middle east, and the Arab countries have a LONG history of brutal discrimination against them. Being a Jew in Iran would be very much like being a black person in 1950s Alabama... Or did you think the whole hoopla over Israel was all about politics?

HAHA wrong as hell!

no one in iran really gives a crap. they really don't. iranians are more discriminatory against turks than jews.

iranian jews live life just like iranian muslims, except they go to church on saturday rather than friday.

Good gawd it must be nice in your fantasy land.

Tell me how nice it must be to live as a Jew in a state that has vowed to destroy the only Jewish nation on earth, simply because they are Jew.

Laugh it up, ignorant boy. But you're wrong.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/anti-semitism/iranjews.html

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
go back to the second link in my post and see the descrimination faced by jews in iran.

Like other religious minorities in Iran, Jews suffer from officially sanctioned discrimination, particularly in the areas of employment, education, and housing. They may not occupy senior positions in the government or the military and are prevented from serving in the judiciary and security services and from becoming public school heads.

With some exceptions, there is little restriction of or interference with the Jewish religious practice; however, education of Jewish children has become more difficult in recent years. The Iranian government reportedly allows Hebrew instruction, recognizing that it is necessary for Jewish religious practice. However, it strongly discourages the distribution of Hebrew texts, in practice making it difficult to teach the language. Moreover, the Iranian government has required that several Jewish schools remain open on Saturdays, the Jewish Sabbath, in conformity with the schedule of other schools in the school system. Since working or attending school on the Sabbath violates Jewish law, this requirement has made it impossible for observant Jews both to attend school and adhere to a fundamental tenet of their religion

You have yet to bring up one disadvantage the Jews have in Iran that the Muslims do not.

just one?
i mean seriously, do you have no shame?

just stop, jeez. you lost. deal with it. you're wrong. aimster's right. just stop, already. everyone sees it plain as day but you.

sorry, religious discrimination of religious minorities is a simple fundamental fact of this regiem. sure some even have it worse than the jews of iran. but its not an arguement for anything positive to say about the regiem.

honestly, dude, iranian jews live just like iranian muslims. no one cares over there.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
go back to the second link in my post and see the descrimination faced by jews in iran.

Like other religious minorities in Iran, Jews suffer from officially sanctioned discrimination, particularly in the areas of employment, education, and housing. They may not occupy senior positions in the government or the military and are prevented from serving in the judiciary and security services and from becoming public school heads.

With some exceptions, there is little restriction of or interference with the Jewish religious practice; however, education of Jewish children has become more difficult in recent years. The Iranian government reportedly allows Hebrew instruction, recognizing that it is necessary for Jewish religious practice. However, it strongly discourages the distribution of Hebrew texts, in practice making it difficult to teach the language. Moreover, the Iranian government has required that several Jewish schools remain open on Saturdays, the Jewish Sabbath, in conformity with the schedule of other schools in the school system. Since working or attending school on the Sabbath violates Jewish law, this requirement has made it impossible for observant Jews both to attend school and adhere to a fundamental tenet of their religion

You have yet to bring up one disadvantage the Jews have in Iran that the Muslims do not.

just one?
i mean seriously, do you have no shame?

just stop, jeez. you lost. deal with it. you're wrong. aimster's right. just stop, already. everyone sees it plain as day but you.

Would you honestly want to be an openly Jewish man living in Iran?

Aimster won nothing but spin. It's a well known fact that Jews are almost universally hated in the middle east, and the Arab countries have a LONG history of brutal discrimination against them. Being a Jew in Iran would be very much like being a black person in 1950s Alabama... Or did you think the whole hoopla over Israel was all about politics?

HAHA wrong as hell!

no one in iran really gives a crap. they really don't. iranians are more discriminatory against turks than jews.

iranian jews live life just like iranian muslims, except they go to church on saturday rather than friday.

Good gawd it must be nice in your fantasy land.

Tell me how nice it must be to live as a Jew in a state that has vowed to destroy the only Jewish nation on earth, simply because they are Jew.

Laugh it up, ignorant boy. But you're wrong.

hehe sure thing... send me a postcard the next time you're in iran. if you'd like, i'll give you the address to my family's place so you can have a safe place to stay... lord knows what the crazy iranians might do to a white american roaming the streets.

by the way, the radical muslim view of destroying israel has WAAAY less to do with genocide of jews and much, much more to do with what they feel is unfair occupation and military advantages against the palestinians in the area. they feel the zionists unfairly took the land from the palestinians and bully them around with tanks and state-of-the-art munitions.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: eits

hehe sure thing... send me a postcard the next time you're in iran. if you'd like, i'll give you the address to my family's place so you can have a safe place to stay... lord knows what the crazy iranians might do to a white american roaming the streets.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/anti-semitism/iranjews.html

 

[0roo0roo]

oh btw none of you can't say anything bad about north korea. ever been there?

nothing bads happening there i hear. its wonderful. anyone that says otherwise is basing it all on propaganda and faulty intelligence in fact there are many quotes by the korean people about how wonderful kim really is. i mean after all how can so many people holding up placards in stadiums creating big ol pictures be wrong?

 

[JS80]

Aimster and eits, whitewashers of the Iranian regime and Middle Eastern Islam. I assume they are both Persian Muslims living in the US. If their mentality is largely representative of Muslims living outside of the Middle East, it's no wonder there are barely any protests against "Radical Islam."

I am beginning to think Muslims who are the real minority "Radicals" are the ones who want to live in peace with the West.

 

[Aimster]

Amused:

A) Iran's President is not the ruler of Iran
B) He is against zionist states, meaning he is against the state of Israel. He never said anything that labeled Jews in a bad way. He labeled Israel as a bad way numerous times.
-In every one of his speeches he always says something like "Jews, Christians, Muslims must unite to wipe the zionist off the face of this planet. We the people of Iran support you Jews who are living under a repressed regime."

He is 150% against Israel, but nowhere is he against Jews.

C) Jews are protected citizens under Iranian Law. Meaning they have every right that Iranians have.
D) They are allowed privleages for their religion, as are Christians (drinking alcohol for religious purposes).
E) Iranian Jews inside Iran have an automatic seat in the congress of Iran, meaning they have an automatic voice.

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
oh btw none of you can't say anything bad about north korea. ever been there?

nothing bads happening there i hear. its wonderful. anyone that says otherwise is basing it all on propaganda and faulty intelligence in fact there are many quotes by the korean people about how wonderful kim really is. i mean after all how can so many people holding up placards in stadiums creating big ol pictures be wrong?

Obviously, because they all speak of how wonderful their dictator is, it's the truth!

Oroo0roo you've been brainwashed by the Zionist Jew pigs!! They are are liars! Allah Akbar!

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: eits

by the way, the radical muslim view of destroying israel has WAAAY less to do with genocide of jews and much, much more to do with what they feel is unfair occupation and military advantages against the palestinians in the area. they feel the zionists unfairly took the land from the palestinians and bully them around with tanks and state-of-the-art munitions.

The Arab nations couldn't give 2 sh!ts for the Palestinians. They use them to perpetrate a war against Israel. Nothing more, nothing less.

If you think it has nothing to do with religion, you're an even bigger fool than I thought.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: eits

hehe sure thing... send me a postcard the next time you're in iran. if you'd like, i'll give you the address to my family's place so you can have a safe place to stay... lord knows what the crazy iranians might do to a white american roaming the streets.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/anti-semitism/iranjews.html

ok? and? this is your compelling argument? a couple incidents of racism/religious intolerance? as if that doesn't happen in this country.

the fact of the matter is that if i was jewish and living in iran, no one would care. i'd still have friends, i'd still be able to have a job, i'd make money, i'd have a family, i wouldn't get harassed by cops or anything... they live normal lives, dude.

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
go back to the second link in my post and see the descrimination faced by jews in iran.

Like other religious minorities in Iran, Jews suffer from officially sanctioned discrimination, particularly in the areas of employment, education, and housing. They may not occupy senior positions in the government or the military and are prevented from serving in the judiciary and security services and from becoming public school heads.

With some exceptions, there is little restriction of or interference with the Jewish religious practice; however, education of Jewish children has become more difficult in recent years. The Iranian government reportedly allows Hebrew instruction, recognizing that it is necessary for Jewish religious practice. However, it strongly discourages the distribution of Hebrew texts, in practice making it difficult to teach the language. Moreover, the Iranian government has required that several Jewish schools remain open on Saturdays, the Jewish Sabbath, in conformity with the schedule of other schools in the school system. Since working or attending school on the Sabbath violates Jewish law, this requirement has made it impossible for observant Jews both to attend school and adhere to a fundamental tenet of their religion

You have yet to bring up one disadvantage the Jews have in Iran that the Muslims do not.

just one?
i mean seriously, do you have no shame?

Your second link is from Wikipedia.com

You have got to be kidding me.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Aimster
Amused:

A) Iran's President is not the ruler of Iran
B) He is against zionist states, meaning he is against the state of Israel. He never said anything that labeled Jews in a bad way. He labeled Israel as a bad way numerous times.
-In every one of his speeches he always says something like "Jews, Christians, Muslims must unite to wipe the zionist off the face of this planet. We the people of Iran support you Jews who are living under a repressed regime."

He is 150% against Israel, but nowhere is he against Jews.

C) Jews are protected citizens under Iranian Law. Meaning they have every right that Iranians have.
D) They are allowed privleages for their religion, as are Christians (drinking alcohol for religious purposes).
E) Iranian Jews inside Iran have an automatic seat in the congress of Iran, meaning they have an automatic voice.

Aimster, I read your propaganda already. Repeating it isn't going to make me believe it.

Tell me, would YOU like to live as an openly Jewish man in Iran?

 

[Aimster]

Apparently it doesnt matter what Iranians have to say about Iran.

I mean the non-Iranians know more about Iran by watching CNN.

We apologize ....

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Aimster
Amused:

A) Iran's President is not the ruler of Iran
B) He is against zionist states, meaning he is against the state of Israel. He never said anything that labeled Jews in a bad way. He labeled Israel as a bad way numerous times.
-In every one of his speeches he always says something like "Jews, Christians, Muslims must unite to wipe the zionist off the face of this planet. We the people of Iran support you Jews who are living under a repressed regime."

He is 150% against Israel, but nowhere is he against Jews.

C) Jews are protected citizens under Iranian Law. Meaning they have every right that Iranians have.
D) They are allowed privleages for their religion, as are Christians (drinking alcohol for religious purposes).
E) Iranian Jews inside Iran have an automatic seat in the congress of Iran, meaning they have an automatic voice.

Aimster, I read your propaganda already. Repeating it isn't going to make me believe it.

Tell me, would YOU like to live as an openly Jewish man in Iran?

My propaganda?
What propaganda?

It is a FACT. I stated facts and you call it propaganda?

yes Jews live openly inside Iran.

They have 13 synagaous in Shiraz alone.

Get your facts straight.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: JS80
Aimster and eits, whitewashers of the Iranian regime and Middle Eastern Islam. I assume they are both Persian Muslims living in the US. If their mentality is largely representative of Muslims living outside of the Middle East, it's no wonder there are barely any protests against "Radical Islam."

I am beginning to think Muslims who are the real minority "Radicals" are the ones who want to live in peace with the West.

i was born in michigan. my dad was born and raised in iran. my mom was born and raised in michigan. i am a christian.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: Aimster
Apparently it doesnt matter what Iranians have to say about Iran.

I mean the non-Iranians know more about Iran by watching CNN.

We apologize ....

hahaha

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: eits

hehe sure thing... send me a postcard the next time you're in iran. if you'd like, i'll give you the address to my family's place so you can have a safe place to stay... lord knows what the crazy iranians might do to a white american roaming the streets.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/anti-semitism/iranjews.html

ok? and? this is your compelling argument? a couple incidents of racism/religious intolerance? as if that doesn't happen in this country.

the fact of the matter is that if i was jewish and living in iran, no one would care. i'd still have friends, i'd still be able to have a job, i'd make money, i'd have a family, i wouldn't get harassed by cops or anything... they live normal lives, dude.

Uh huh. A religious minority living in a country ruled by one of the most intolerant religions on the face of the earth. Not only that, but in a region with a centuries long history of brutal intolerance toward Jews...

Uh huh...

eits, give it up. Please.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: Amused
If you think it has nothing to do with religion, you're an even bigger fool than I thought.

the only fool is the one who thinks he knows more about iranian society without ever experiencing it than a person who has.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Amused
If you think it has nothing to do with religion, you're an even bigger fool than I thought.

the only fool is the one who thinks he knows more about iranian society without ever experiencing it than a person who has.

Um, no. The only fool is the person who claims to know of Iranian culture only as a Muslim, not a Jew. Meanwhile, I posted proof of the discrimination Jews face.

More proof:

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/anti-semitism/hriran97.html

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: eits

hehe sure thing... send me a postcard the next time you're in iran. if you'd like, i'll give you the address to my family's place so you can have a safe place to stay... lord knows what the crazy iranians might do to a white american roaming the streets.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/anti-semitism/iranjews.html

ok? and? this is your compelling argument? a couple incidents of racism/religious intolerance? as if that doesn't happen in this country.

the fact of the matter is that if i was jewish and living in iran, no one would care. i'd still have friends, i'd still be able to have a job, i'd make money, i'd have a family, i wouldn't get harassed by cops or anything... they live normal lives, dude.

Uh huh. A religious minority living in a country ruled by one of the most intolerant religions on the face of the earth. Not only that, but in a region with a centuries long history of brutal intolerance toward Jews...

Uh huh...

eits, give it up. Please.

We just presented you with facts and you are like no no propaganda.

LOL.

You dont even know a damn thing about the country in which you talk about. Yet you hate it because they are Muslim.

No wonder you do not pop up on P&N that much. You dont like facts. You like to make up your own facts.

Let me guess you support the war in Iraq because they were terrorist

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: eits

hehe sure thing... send me a postcard the next time you're in iran. if you'd like, i'll give you the address to my family's place so you can have a safe place to stay... lord knows what the crazy iranians might do to a white american roaming the streets.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/anti-semitism/iranjews.html

ok? and? this is your compelling argument? a couple incidents of racism/religious intolerance? as if that doesn't happen in this country.

the fact of the matter is that if i was jewish and living in iran, no one would care. i'd still have friends, i'd still be able to have a job, i'd make money, i'd have a family, i wouldn't get harassed by cops or anything... they live normal lives, dude.

Uh huh. A religious minority living in a country ruled by one of the most intolerant religions on the face of the earth. Not only that, but in a region with a centuries long history of brutal intolerance toward Jews...

Uh huh...

eits, give it up. Please.

give what up? your argument was as piss poor as it usually is. all you did was post a link saying that jews have been around for a long time in iran and in recent years, jews have been leaving to go to israel.

it references one execution of a jewish guy who tried to help jews emigrate...

so, i guess everyone in iran must think that we're a nation of people who constantly hate black people because our news and tv programing is constantly showing stereotypes of black people and we imprison them or execute them for crimes they might not have committed.... and, we burn crosses on their lawns and lynch them from trees... and hit them with fire hoses...