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There are articles floating around from when AMD released their a64's... mainly because of the whole apple "g5 fastest desktop out" blob. Granted.. I can't remember any, but www.aceshardware.com might have something for you.
I wish apple would sell their g5 tower though... I want one
But can't work in OS X as my main desktop, it all still feels foriegn to me. I love it, but couldn't do it. It would be too costly to try too
I wish apple would sell their g5 tower though... I want one
But can't work in OS X as my main desktop, it all still feels foriegn to me. I love it, but couldn't do it. It would be too costly to try too i grew up using computers in this order:
apple II (first comp i ever touched)
goofy mac with built in monitor?
nother mac (eat it guy who harped on the usage of "nother")
nother mac LC3 or somthin (again with that harper)
dell with win 98
dell with xp
mine with xp
I always liked macs better when I had them and when i got the first dell, then i tried using a mac osx last year, confusing as your motha's face is ugly. not all that intuitive, even after using it many times.
macs are for weird kids who want to be different for no good reason and video encoders/designers who do nothing else, otherwise you are paying too much.
2000 base for a system with 512 megs, a pos video card, procesors that only win in photoshop and a few other mac-made benches, and you still have to buy all the software that makes macs so much better????
99% of people would get better performance on what they do for a computer that costs half as much as a mac
PS i wouldn't be a mac hater if they cut the prices of the G5 line by 1000 or so
edit***i'm with the aqua guy***
apple II (first comp i ever touched)
goofy mac with built in monitor?
nother mac (eat it guy who harped on the usage of "nother")
nother mac LC3 or somthin (again with that harper)
dell with win 98
dell with xp
mine with xp
I always liked macs better when I had them and when i got the first dell, then i tried using a mac osx last year, confusing as your motha's face is ugly. not all that intuitive, even after using it many times.
macs are for weird kids who want to be different for no good reason and video encoders/designers who do nothing else, otherwise you are paying too much.
2000 base for a system with 512 megs, a pos video card, procesors that only win in photoshop and a few other mac-made benches, and you still have to buy all the software that makes macs so much better????
99% of people would get better performance on what they do for a computer that costs half as much as a mac
PS i wouldn't be a mac hater if they cut the prices of the G5 line by 1000 or so
edit***i'm with the aqua guy***
"Macs are better for the video/graphical arts perspective, while Windows-based are better for the average user."
This is a HUGE myth that everyone seems to repeat over & over..."If your're into graphics, Macs are better"
I am a professional graphics person & I use an AMD XP Pro system. It runs Photoshop, Illustrator, Quark, Dreamweaver, Flash & Fireworks flawlessly! The user interfaces are similar on both platforms & there are not cross platform compatibility issues. I read that Macs are optimized to process faster with Photoshop, but you're talking about only a fews seconds faster...Nothing that dramatic.
Adobe actually supports their Windows products better now than Mac. I believe that some Adobe titles are no longer available for Macs.
I enjoy building PC's & gaming, so Mac's are not for me.
This is a HUGE myth that everyone seems to repeat over & over..."If your're into graphics, Macs are better"
I am a professional graphics person & I use an AMD XP Pro system. It runs Photoshop, Illustrator, Quark, Dreamweaver, Flash & Fireworks flawlessly! The user interfaces are similar on both platforms & there are not cross platform compatibility issues. I read that Macs are optimized to process faster with Photoshop, but you're talking about only a fews seconds faster...Nothing that dramatic.
Adobe actually supports their Windows products better now than Mac. I believe that some Adobe titles are no longer available for Macs.
I enjoy building PC's & gaming, so Mac's are not for me.
all 4 of your posts have been mac vs windows(its starting to look like trolling). amd vs intel is based on numbers, not usablity. in the pc world everythings based on a benchmark as to ascertain 'whats better'. in the mac world its how long you go without having to reformat.... so far im at 2 years(on my daily used g4 cube) meanwhile every 6 months im reinstalling xp(and so are all of my friends who use windows). not to mention on a mac iv never had a virus or have even been scared about getting one, my cube isnt even behind a firewall.
pitting two cpu's against each other is not pitting two os's against each other. sure the g5's over priced i'll agree on that, but you get mac os x, which you cant get on windows. and i think that more then makes up for the price.
if you really want to know why people use macs, go buy one, its that simple. dont wanna shell out the cash? then to bad, youll never get why people like them. as for looking for a site thats gonna tell you exactly why this pc is better then a mac or why this mac beats this pc, your never going to find one. buy a mac, you can always sell it on ebay, and youd be getting a lot more money for it then a pc from the same date.
conclusive proof is in the user experience. if you dont use it, you'll never see the proof. if your not a graphic designer or a video editor, you'll never get why they use them(because they need to get work done, windows doesnt let them get work done faster and with less hassle)
noc:
if mondays blue then thursday must surely be yellow.
I know that for a long time, Adobe's flagship products (Photoshop, Illustrator, Acrobat, etc.) used to ship new versions first on the Mac, and sometimes offered better features there. It also helped that as soon as they had color on Macs, they had 24-bit color -- something that took a *long* time to catch on in the PC world, comparatively speaking -- and they had good audio support from the get-go. This meant a lot of graphics artists got onto that platform early on and never had any real good reason to switch. But nowadays, PCs have really caught up in terms of video and audio editing (I don't know of any major software available on the Mac that's not also on the PC), and they offer a signficiant price savings (at least on the desktop; I agree that Apple Powerbooks are really nice high-end laptops).
So I wouldn't exactly call it a "myth", because it used to be true (and still may be to some extent, if only because many graphic artists are established Mac users). Of course, my friend who recently graduated from art school (and the art school buddies he now lives with) uses a PC, and bitched constantly about how his school used Macs everywhere.
Compare a swing and an orange.
The numbers don't matter. An x86 based PC is best for you. We get it. A friend of mine wanted _the_ platform to do his work on, and decided on a Mac.
Final Cut (High-end)
iMovie (novice)
Garageband
Those are the three titles that I personally know and love that are not available on PC. All very powerful programs. If any reasonably-priced Windows program could do half the things that iMovie does (and as easily), then Macs would disappear from the Home market.
Back in HS a friend of mine had macs because it's all his father would buy. I got to use it quite a bit, and still didn't get it. Not saying they suck or anything, but I certainly don't like the interface. Plus I'm not part of their two main customer demographics; rich hippies and heavy media editors (although I dabble in video editing on my pc, which fulfills my needs for it just fine - and with a freeware program to boot - Virtual Dub). I do like to game and to tinker with my rig and with overclocking, and when the time comes I like to upgrade on my own or build anew on my own... so they're out in those respects as well. If you like them, great, but telling someone to spend twice as much to find out why they're so great, when the only thing they'd likely find out (if they're like the majority of computer useres) is that they paid way too much is ridiculous.
And this was how many years ago? 2? 4? 6?
And most of the people I know that own a Mac aren't either.
Or you could sell your mac every year and just buy a new one for a couple of hundred dollars.
Or you could build your own, but it's tough for a lot of people. Not quite as simple as the kits you basically buy for x86 based PCs.
<-- old, more like 8-12
There are only so many demographics, and without a good reason to buy one (their apparently superior media editing abilities or fitting in with your friends) it's a waste of money. And as I said, I game.
I spend less than a couple hundred a year on my pc.
Or you could sell your mac every year and just buy a new one for a couple of hundred dollars.
Or you could build your own, but it's tough for a lot of people. Not quite as simple as the kits you basically buy for x86 based PCs.
With no choice in brand name and while getting it in the rear on parts prices? No thanks. I didn't say I did it because it was ultra-difficult, which it of course isn't, but because I enjoy it.
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Well, I'm a gamer so it's pretty simple for me but...
Hey here's a related comic (warning, potty mouth language):
http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/?t=archives&date=2004-07-03
EDIT: Oh yea, and I'm into building/upgrading/customizing so... yea.
Hey here's a related comic (warning, potty mouth language):
http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/?t=archives&date=2004-07-03
EDIT: Oh yea, and I'm into building/upgrading/customizing so... yea.
Originally posted by: Gurck
<-- old, more like 8-12
The interface has changed a bit since then. Mac OS X is different than the classic Mac OS that you remember. My comment wasn't trying to convince you of anything other than those aren't the only demographics that Macs appeal to. Obviously, games are something Macs don't do well. So if that's what you do, no need to even pay attention to Macs. Out of the few people I know that own Macs, only one does multimedia stuff on it (as it's main purpose anyhow). The others: network admins/security gurus, programmers, general office nuts, etc.
I spend less than a couple hundred a year on my pc.
Or you could sell your mac every year and just buy a new one for a couple of hundred dollars.
To keep it top of the line? The resale values for Macs are good enough that you could buy a top of the line, sell it for ~80-90% of it's original value next year, and buy a new top of the line Mac. I spend more than that on hard drives, ram, and new machines every year (I've gotten 2 new AMD machines this year :Q).
Or you could build your own, but it's tough for a lot of people. Not quite as simple as the kits you basically buy for x86 based PCs.
With no choice in brand name and while getting it in the rear on parts prices? No thanks. I didn't say I did it because it was ultra-difficult, which it of course isn't, but because I enjoy it.
Do you want ATI, nVidia, or Matrox graphics? Maxtor, WD, seagate, or hitachi hard drives? Crucial, Apple, or whatever else is available ram? Motorolla or IBM processor?
I was just pointing out that building an x86 based PC is damn easy these days. Building a Mac from scratch (or overclocking it :Q) is difficult, exciting, and a little more intense.
That is quite possibly the least funny anti-mac cartoon I have ever seen, and I enjoy most of them.
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Post the better ones!
Besides comics, I've seen a parody on the Apple "Switch" commercials. I should find a link, heh. Someone at work showed it to me so I might have to look a bit.
EDIT: Heheh World of Warcraft comics: http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/?t=archives&date=2004-07-09
Besides comics, I've seen a parody on the Apple "Switch" commercials. I should find a link, heh. Someone at work showed it to me so I might have to look a bit.
EDIT: Heheh World of Warcraft comics: http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/?t=archives&date=2004-07-09
The switch parodies were pretty good. I don't think I have links to the others though. There was atleast one pennyarcade that was funny.
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