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Mainly in the low to middle-end price range cars, the recent trends of body styling is driving me crazy. It's that bubble shape that just hits a nerve. Take for example the Nissan Maxima, nice car with nice features (really nice interior), but then look at its tacky body shape.

Example:

Old car with normal body style:
Normal

New car with stupid tacky cheap looking bubble shape:
Is it car? Is it a station wagon? No, its just fugly.

I think it started back about 5 years ago with the ford taurus, that looked like a friggin turtle Turtle. The ford focus is also a big offender So ugly.

And, what pisses me off is everyone is now copying eachothers crappy designs!! :| Why can't they make a decent looking car without the tackyness (Mercedes does this well), that has the same look as an expensive brother, but is still cheap because it still has low end characteristics.

It seems like these guys are sitting in a room smoking pot and randomly drawing this crap up. Maddox expressed this best.

And, if the guys at Honda, Toyota, Ford, and the like are smoking pot, then what are the guys at Scion on?


Sure I may be old fashioned, and people may still buy the cars, but I am all for welcoming in future looking tech, but we don't have to settle for this crap.
 
dullard

dullard

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Rounded is better looking, better fuel mileage, and more interior space. There is a reason you are in the small minority who likes the old design.
 
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Originally posted by: dullard
Rounded is better looking, better fuel mileage, and more interior space. There is a reason you are in the small minority who likes the old design.
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Aerodynamics is a poor reason, as a bubble shape is not the most effective design. I could see interior space, but I'd rather ride cramped then ride in something that burns my eyes.
 
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Lifer
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Originally posted by: KnightBreed
Old car with normal body style:
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The Volvo is only "normal" if you're a young pup like most of us on ATOT. You need to be reminded what cars looked like 30+ years ago.
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Originally posted by: Ryan
GET A BRAIN MORANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :p

I think you also forgot that your beloved Volvo was once a bubbly car
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I am talking about recent "modern" designs, not stuff that can have QQ tags on them, would you say the large cone taillights jutting out into the air on the back of some of those old models had function?
 
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Originally posted by: F22 Raptor
Originally posted by: dullard
Rounded is better looking, better fuel mileage, and more interior space. There is a reason you are in the small minority who likes the old design.
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Aerodynamics is a poor reason, as a bubble shape is not the most effective design. I could see interior space, but I'd rather ride cramped then ride in something that burns my eyes.
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Dude, you're an idiot. Aerodynamics is pivotal in determining the fuel efficiency of a vehicle. The coefficient of drag decreases dramatically with the curvature of the body.
 
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Originally posted by: J0hnny
Originally posted by: F22 Raptor
Originally posted by: dullard
Rounded is better looking, better fuel mileage, and more interior space. There is a reason you are in the small minority who likes the old design.
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Aerodynamics is a poor reason, as a bubble shape is not the most effective design. I could see interior space, but I'd rather ride cramped then ride in something that burns my eyes.
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Dude, you're an idiot. Aerodynamics is pivotal in determining the fuel efficiency of a vehicle. The coefficient of drag decreases dramatically with the curvature of the body.
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An idiot? Then why isn't a Corvette or a Ferrari shaped like a bubble? In fact, why don't F1 cars look like a bubble?

I'm not saying go make a box on wheels, I am saying stop with this trying to look future-like, but in the cheapest sort of way look.

I adressed, that in fact Dullard is correct, and the reason they don't go with a Ferrari type design for aerodynamics is because of interior space.

And, of course aerodynamics determines fuel effciency. But, we seem to manage with most other not as rounded cars?? No, you don't need to make the car a bubble.
 
Ryan

Ryan

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Originally posted by: F22 Raptor
Originally posted by: J0hnny
Originally posted by: F22 Raptor
Originally posted by: dullard
Rounded is better looking, better fuel mileage, and more interior space. There is a reason you are in the small minority who likes the old design.
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Aerodynamics is a poor reason, as a bubble shape is not the most effective design. I could see interior space, but I'd rather ride cramped then ride in something that burns my eyes.
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Dude, you're an idiot. Aerodynamics is pivotal in determining the fuel efficiency of a vehicle. The coefficient of drag decreases dramatically with the curvature of the body.
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An idiot? Then why isn't a Corvette or a Ferrari shaped like a bubble? In fact, why don't F1 cars look like a bubble?

I adressed, that in fact Dullard is correct, and the reason they don't go with a Ferrari type design for aerodynamics is because of interior space.

And, of course aerodynamics determines fuel effciency. But, we seem to manage with most other not as rounded cars?? No, you don't need to make the car a bubble.
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The bubble has been around forever you fool.
 
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Lifer
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Originally posted by: Ryan
Originally posted by: F22 Raptor
Originally posted by: J0hnny
Originally posted by: F22 Raptor
Originally posted by: dullard
Rounded is better looking, better fuel mileage, and more interior space. There is a reason you are in the small minority who likes the old design.
Click to expand...

Aerodynamics is a poor reason, as a bubble shape is not the most effective design. I could see interior space, but I'd rather ride cramped then ride in something that burns my eyes.
Click to expand...

Dude, you're an idiot. Aerodynamics is pivotal in determining the fuel efficiency of a vehicle. The coefficient of drag decreases dramatically with the curvature of the body.
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An idiot? Then why isn't a Corvette or a Ferrari shaped like a bubble? In fact, why don't F1 cars look like a bubble?

I adressed, that in fact Dullard is correct, and the reason they don't go with a Ferrari type design for aerodynamics is because of interior space.

And, of course aerodynamics determines fuel effciency. But, we seem to manage with most other not as rounded cars?? No, you don't need to make the car a bubble.
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The bubble has been around forever you fool.
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Yes, but it is no where neat as prominent as it is now.

And, what is with the immature style of ATOT debates, where people resort to name calling such as fools and idiots? Why can't one just discuss the subject at hand?
 
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BD2003

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Originally posted by: F22 Raptor
Mainly in the low to middle-end price range cars, the recent trends of body styling is driving me crazy. It's that bubble shape that just hits a nerve. Take for example the Nissan Maxima, nice car with nice features (really nice interior), but then look at its tacky body shape.

Example:

Old car with normal body style:
Normal

New car with stupid tacky cheap looking bubble shape:
Is it car? Is it a station wagon? No, its just fugly.

I think it started back about 5 years ago with the ford taurus, that looked like a friggin turtle Turtle. The ford focus is also a big offender So ugly.

And, what pisses me off is everyone is now copying eachothers crappy designs!! :| Why can't they make a decent looking car without the tackyness (Mercedes does this well), that has the same look as an expensive brother, but is still cheap because it still has low end characteristics.

It seems like these guys are sitting in a room smoking pot and randomly drawing this crap up. Maddox expressed this best.

And, if the guys at Honda, Toyota, Ford, and the like are smoking pot, then what are the guys at Scion on?


Sure I may be old fashioned, and people may still buy the cars, but I am all for welcoming in future looking tech, but we don't have to settle for this crap.
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The maxima looks a billion times better than the POS you compared it to.
 
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Lifer
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Originally posted by: BD2003
Originally posted by: F22 Raptor
Mainly in the low to middle-end price range cars, the recent trends of body styling is driving me crazy. It's that bubble shape that just hits a nerve. Take for example the Nissan Maxima, nice car with nice features (really nice interior), but then look at its tacky body shape.

Example:

Old car with normal body style:
Normal

New car with stupid tacky cheap looking bubble shape:
Is it car? Is it a station wagon? No, its just fugly.

I think it started back about 5 years ago with the ford taurus, that looked like a friggin turtle Turtle. The ford focus is also a big offender So ugly.

And, what pisses me off is everyone is now copying eachothers crappy designs!! :| Why can't they make a decent looking car without the tackyness (Mercedes does this well), that has the same look as an expensive brother, but is still cheap because it still has low end characteristics.

It seems like these guys are sitting in a room smoking pot and randomly drawing this crap up. Maddox expressed this best.

And, if the guys at Honda, Toyota, Ford, and the like are smoking pot, then what are the guys at Scion on?


Sure I may be old fashioned, and people may still buy the cars, but I am all for welcoming in future looking tech, but we don't have to settle for this crap.
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The maxima looks a billion times better than the POS you compared it to.
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You missed the point, I was showing an extreme example of the basic design I think good looking cars should be based off of.
 
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Vegitto

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Originally posted by: LoKe
Aerodynamics? And they have to appeal to newer generations.
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THIS newer generation (15 years old, SIR!) says they can shove that crap right back to where it came from. Yes. Their asses.
 
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LordMorpheus

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I prefer more box to cars - that's why I bought a pre 1998 town car - in 1998 they switched to the "Big Grand Marquis" styling, before that it was still classy.
 
mcvickj

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I owned a 97 Ford Taurus for 6 years and never once considered to be an ugly car. I loved my Taurus. It was replaced with an 03 Chevy Impala.
 
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Mr.IncrediblyBored

Mr.IncrediblyBored

Lifer
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Originally posted by: F22 Raptor
Originally posted by: j00fek
Originally posted by: Ryan
GET A BRAIN MORANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :p

I think you also forgot that your beloved Volvo was once a bubbly car
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pwnd
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Once again, you miss the point, and my explanation as to including the Volvo as a "modern" car, nor do I find it beloved as I would never buy a car that looked like that (even then), only the general shape. Hence the red drawn around it for one to infer the general idea.
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They are challenging your stupid notion that the boxy Volvo is considered "normal" and "modern". Rounded eccentric designs once dominated the car world. Everything comes full circle and car designers are starting to put a little more effort into their vehicles.

It isn't about aerodynamics or else every car would look like a teardrop.
 
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Lifer
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I hate overly bubly cars, ESPECIALLY the Taurus. I also hated my wife's old Passats with their dome shape. Not a fan of the new Civic... the front end looks alright, but it's a little too humpy for me.
 
Mr.IncrediblyBored

Mr.IncrediblyBored

Lifer
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Personally, I don't think cars are getting any more rounded or bubbly. They are, however, getting more complex with weird shapes and cut lines. Look at the new 3-series up close. Follow the lines and sheetmetal from the back to front. Lots of detail that you just didn't get in the 80's and 90's cars.

Some like it, some don't.
 
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