What the hell is happening with China?

[DigDog]

this is not related to anything US-side;

for some weird reason, i've been watching a few "news" channels on youtube, mostly, i reckon, based in India. As you may know, there recently was a border conflict between India and China: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_China–India_skirmishes
Some channel names: You news2, TFIglobal. There's more, i cant remember the names, i'm sure Youtube will suggest them.

And they all have one thing in common: super-aggressive language. They literally say things like "china got its ass kicked", "india is smart, china is dumb", "china suffers humiliating defeat", etc.

The production values are pretty damn high for being a joke channel. I understand that this is propaganda; it's just that, normally, you don't make propaganda that so mocks the opponent, expecially when it's big & rich & dangerous china. Normally, you'd use rethoric and passive-aggressive stances.

I sure as hell hope India doesn't drag us all into a war with china - you know, past alliances n' all that.

That's just a couple channels, but there's also been a proliferation of other anti-china channels, with some focusing on china's debt war, some on the occupation of hong kong, the uyghur camps, etc ..

Has any of this come on your radar?

 

[pmv]

India itself is going through a rather ethno-nationalistic Trumpian phase, under Modi. They just kicked Amnesty International out. it's a global phenomenon, it seems.

Amnesty International halts India operations after 'freezing' of its bank account | CNN

Amnesty International has halted its operations in India after the "complete freezing" of its bank accounts by the Indian government, the not-for-profit human rights organization said in a statement Tuesday.

edition.cnn.com

 

[twjr]

The BJP under Modi is more specifically Hindu-nationalism than the general anti-white ethno-racial nationalism of "Trump's America" but it's similar. India has also banned a lot of Chinese tech companies and apps recently.

I wouldn't be too concerned about India provoking China. After decades of conflict with their neighbours they have a much more hardened and combat ready military than given credit for. It also wouldn't surprise me if a lot of the propaganda is to coincide with the Quad meeting in Japan that just wrapped up with India, USA, Australia and Japan. All the talk coming out of that meeting was pretty strongly Anti-Sino.

 

[dawp]

India itself is going through a rather ethno-nationalistic Trumpian phase, under Modi. They just kicked Amnesty International out. it's a global phenomenon, it seems.

Amnesty International halts India operations after 'freezing' of its bank account | CNN

Amnesty International has halted its operations in India after the "complete freezing" of its bank accounts by the Indian government, the not-for-profit human rights organization said in a statement Tuesday.

edition.cnn.com

it's the aliens, they wan us to kill ourselves off so they can take over and deplete the resources without us getting in the way /s

 

[pmv]

Nationalism is such a powerful force. I really think 'the left' underestimated it for a long time. It's also sometimes hard to distinguish from racism. And it has a peculiar trait that makes the distinction between the nationalism of the under-dog (Indians fighting British colonialism, say) blur into that of the oppressor. Sometimes you can't tell which it is. Sometimes both sides consider themselves the downtrodden ones.

 

[interchange]

Nationalism is such a powerful force. I really think 'the left' underestimated it for a long time. It's also sometimes hard to distinguish from racism. And it has a peculiar trait that makes the distinction between the nationalism of the under-dog (Indians fighting British colonialism, say) blur into that of the oppressor. Sometimes you can't tell which it is. Sometimes both sides consider themselves the downtrodden ones.

I think you have it right. I just don't know how to use that knowledge to help.

 

[DigDog]

a lot of the propaganda is to coincide with the Quad meeting in Japan that just wrapped up with India, USA, Australia and Japan. All the talk coming out of that meeting was pretty strongly Anti-Sino.

aaah ok, that makes perfect sense