*What the hell is going on?*

[tweakmm]

I'm running a multi computer network and I'm having some trouble on one computer. It connects to the shared drives on the network and will connect to the win2k DHCP server to get an IP address, but when I try to ping the DHCP server or any other computer on the network it always times out. Attempting to ping the problem computer from one of the other computers results in a time out also.
The win2k DHCP server recognizes when the problem computer is connected and shows it as a leased address and when I release the IP the DHCP server releases the lease, but an attempt to ping the problem computer from the win2k server results in a time out.
The problem computer is running Windows 98.

Does anybody know what is going on?

Thanks a ton,
Michael

 

[ScottMac]

It kinda sounds like a subnet mask issue (typo?). DHCP relies on a broadcast ... not a specific address (broadcast = local network only), so the address gets issued. When you ping the specific address, it's deciding that the other system is on another network and sending the traffic to the default gateway, where it dies (probably because it's a 192.168.X.X address).

If you are running more than TCP/IP protocol, you may be seeing and attaching to the other systems using NETBIOS/NETBEUI (or IPX/SPX)... it works over that protocol, but TCP/IP fails.

So, bring up a DOS window and do "IPCONFIG / ALL" at the prompt. Verify that your adddressing and mask are what you think they are. On the WIN98 box, you can do a START | RUN | WINIPCONFIG to bring up the same protocol status information.

If you bring up the interface properties, you can see which protocols are bound to the NIC. I believe WIN 98 automatically dropped in the IPX/SPX protocol as #1. If you're not using it, you may want to remove it (unless that's the protocol that most of your network has been running on ...)

Good Luck

Scott

 

[Cheetah8799]

ya, check the subnet mask. I was also going to suggest that it is possible to block ping traffic via a firewall, and you may have the firewall enabled on the one problem computer. Just a guess.

 

[tweakmm]

Originally posted by: Cheetah8799
ya, check the subnet mask. I was also going to suggest that it is possible to block ping traffic via a firewall, and you may have the firewall enabled on the one problem computer. Just a guess.

There is no firewall on the problem computer.

 

[CubanCorona]

I agree with Scott. I sounds like a subnet mask issue.

On a side note, I think on the 98 box it's "winipcfg" not "winipconfig."

See what that turns up.

You might also check the arp tables on the problem computer just to see if it turns up any helpful information. Go to a DOS prompt and type "arp -a"

 

[tweakmm]

I checked the subnet mask and it is what it's supposed to be (255.255.255.0)

 

[tweakmm]

Originally posted by: CubanCorona

You might also check the arp tables on the problem computer just to see if it turns up any helpful information. Go to a DOS prompt and type "arp -a"

The results from "arp -a" are 2 IP addresses, one address is the ip of the gateway (192.168.0.1) and the other is the address of the DHCP server (192.168.0.11)
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[tweakmm]

any more ideas?

 

[tweakmm]

Nobody?

 

[tweakmm]

Anybody?

 

[amdxborg]

Have you tried replacing the nic in the 98 pc, or tried removing tcp/ip and other protocols and re-installing them?

 

[tweakmm]

Originally posted by: amdxborg
Have you tried replacing the nic in the 98 pc, or tried removing tcp/ip and other protocols and re-installing them?

I have no tried replacing the nic but I have tried removing and reinstalling the tcp/ip drivers. Would it be possible for a broken nic to work on some protocols and not others? I would think it would be an all or nothing sort of thing,

 

[PurdueTech]

Can other computers ping the machine that your trying to ping with the 98 box?

You said there is no firewall on the 98 box, but its not that one that matters. You need to check for a firewall on the box you are trying to ping.

 

[tweakmm]

Originally posted by: PurdueTech
Can other computers ping the machine that your trying to ping with the 98 box?

You said there is no firewall on the 98 box, but its not that one that matters. You need to check for a firewall on the box you are trying to ping.

Yes, every other computer on the network can ping every other computer except for the problem box. I've tried pinging multiple computers with the problem computer and every one times out.

 

[PurdueTech]

I'd try replacing the hardware. I have had this happen before where the link light works and some traffic gets through, but the majority of the traffic is so messed up it just gets droped. I replaced the hardware and it worked fine for me.

 

[tweakmm]

Ok, I switched out NICs and the problem is still there. I can connect to shared drives on the network but no TCP/IP traffic is getting through.

 

[AFB]

Originally posted by: tweakmm
Ok, I switched out NICs and the problem is still there. I can connect to shared drives on the network but no TCP/IP traffic is getting through.

I have to ask this, is TCP/IP installed for that connection ?

 

[tweakmm]

Originally posted by: amdfanboy

Originally posted by: tweakmm
Ok, I switched out NICs and the problem is still there. I can connect to shared drives on the network but no TCP/IP traffic is getting through.

I have to ask this, is TCP/IP installed for that connection ?

Lol, yes, TCP/IP is installed and the adapter even connects to the DHCP server to get an IP address.

 

[AFB]

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: amdfanboy

Originally posted by: tweakmm
Ok, I switched out NICs and the problem is still there. I can connect to shared drives on the network but no TCP/IP traffic is getting through.

I have to ask this, is TCP/IP installed for that connection ?

Lol, yes, TCP/IP is installed and the adapter even connects to the DHCP server to get an IP address.

What address does it get, and do you have any anti-virus software ?

 

[tweakmm]

Originally posted by: amdfanboy

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: amdfanboy

Originally posted by: tweakmm
Ok, I switched out NICs and the problem is still there. I can connect to shared drives on the network but no TCP/IP traffic is getting through.

I have to ask this, is TCP/IP installed for that connection ?

Lol, yes, TCP/IP is installed and the adapter even connects to the DHCP server to get an IP address.

What address does it get, and do you have any anti-virus software ?

The address is 192.168.0.112 and no, there is no anti virus software.

 

[AFB]

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: amdfanboy

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: amdfanboy

Originally posted by: tweakmm
Ok, I switched out NICs and the problem is still there. I can connect to shared drives on the network but no TCP/IP traffic is getting through.

I have to ask this, is TCP/IP installed for that connection ?

Lol, yes, TCP/IP is installed and the adapter even connects to the DHCP server to get an IP address.

What address does it get, and do you have any anti-virus software ?

The address is 192.168.0.112 and no, there is no anti virus software.

Can you ping the router, 192.168.0.1 ?

 

[tweakmm]

Originally posted by: amdfanboy

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: amdfanboy

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: amdfanboy

Originally posted by: tweakmm
Ok, I switched out NICs and the problem is still there. I can connect to shared drives on the network but no TCP/IP traffic is getting through.

I have to ask this, is TCP/IP installed for that connection ?

Lol, yes, TCP/IP is installed and the adapter even connects to the DHCP server to get an IP address.

What address does it get, and do you have any anti-virus software ?

The address is 192.168.0.112 and no, there is no anti virus software.

Can you ping the router, 192.168.0.1 ?

No, I can't ping anything.

 

[AFB]

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: amdfanboy

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: amdfanboy

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: amdfanboy

Originally posted by: tweakmm
Ok, I switched out NICs and the problem is still there. I can connect to shared drives on the network but no TCP/IP traffic is getting through.

I have to ask this, is TCP/IP installed for that connection ?

Lol, yes, TCP/IP is installed and the adapter even connects to the DHCP server to get an IP address.

What address does it get, and do you have any anti-virus software ?

The address is 192.168.0.112 and no, there is no anti virus software.

Can you ping the router, 192.168.0.1 ?

No, I can't ping anything.

127.0.0.1 ?

*taps back of shoes together

Theres no place like, theres no place like home, theres no place like home.

 

[SerialChiller]

Check the network cable.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Try pinging the address the machine gets from the DHCP server (192.168.0.112?).

Try replacing the cable.

Make sure there aren't any useless protocols installed.

Unload tcp/ip, reboot, reinstall tcp/ip.

I hate Windows 98.