What the heck is a pentium Itanium ?:: wondering;:

lifeguard1999

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Itanium is Intel's first attempt at 64 bit CPUs. Currently the P3/P4 are 32 bit CPUs. A 64 bit CPU would allow Intel to start competing in the lucrative server market that Sun/SGI/IBM/Compaq/HP now own. If Intel could set the standard like they did in the PC market, then the above 5 companies would be buying from them and Intel would rake in the money.

The trouble is that Itanium is late, slow, and only HP really supports it.

The big black massive objects made by Fujikura are finely finned heatsinks. They rest upon an aluminium heatspreader. The CPU die is under the heatspreader.

The big aluminum heatsinks sit on the voltage regulator (if I remember correctly) for the Itanium.
 

Wingznut

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Itanium late? No comment. ;)

Itanium slow? I believe you are thinking of the 32bit benchmarks that everyone is running. Unfortunately, 32bit is not what it's designed for, so those benchmarks are pretty irrelvant.

McKinley, Intel's second foray into the 64bit world... That one's gonna rock the house.

Right pm?
 

pm

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Erm, no comment. ;)

Patrick Mahoney
IPF (McKinley) Design Engineer
Intel Corp.
 

dowxp

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haha. a McKinley engineer! coolie. i have to guess Wingznut PEZ is one too. =)


 

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Now you know why the McKinley is behind...all the design engineers at intel are on the anandtech forums...;)
 

dowxp

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and.. i checked their rigs.. they use P3! i bet they get them for free. imagine, an intel engineer using AMD. that would be funny.
 

pm

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>Now you know why the McKinley is behind...

In what way is it behind? What do you mean by this?

>they use P3! i bet they get them for free.

Actually they cancelled the program due to budget cuts last month. I was scheduled to get a Pentium 4 in a couple of weeks. Wingz will still get his, but I'll have to wait a year or more for mine.

With few exceptions, I have usually had to buy my own machines over the years.

>imagine, an intel engineer using AMD. that would be funny.

I've never met any Intel employees who have AMD CPU's in their computers. Several Intel employees that I know own AMD stock, but I don't know anyone at Intel who uses AMD CPU's.
 

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damn.. looks like that board supports 16 dimms.. so lets max it out.. 16x512mb = 8192 megs of ram.. mmm.. finger lickin good.. :)
 

Wingznut

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"a McKinley engineer! coolie. i have to guess Wingznut PEZ is one too."

I'm a Fab Technician. Yep, I wear a bunny suit. And no, they aren't as cool as in the old commercials. ;) Currently I'm working on the .13um P3 and P4 process. Also dabbling in the generation after that.

As for my P3, I bought it from Compuwiz1 over on the For Sale/Trade forum.

Nitzylpick, I think you are confusing McKinley with something else, because it's not behind.
 

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<< >Now you know why the McKinley is behind... >>



i think he assumed that the project was behind and that &quot;yall&quot; are wasting your time on anandtech. =)
 

lifeguard1999

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Wingznut PEZ, look at my .sig. Supercomputers run 64 bit. The benchmarks I have seen for Itanium come from that. They are slower than the corresponding SGI/IBM/Cray scores. Now is that because it is slow, or the compilers, or the MTH that SGI is using, or is it because they were the early cA2 chips, or who knows what? I do not know what the reason is, nor do I care as that is not really my department. All I care about is performance.

And so what if Itanium is late and slow. It was Intel's first attempt. In my philosophy, failure is an option. After all, the Wright Brothers crashed before they flew, and the first airplane death was with them at the helm.

I bet Intel learns from the Itanium failure and produces a good McKinley. If so, then Itanium was not a failure. I have not seen any benchmarks on McKinley, yet. I have heard good things about it though. Too bad my friends at KAI won't tell me anything about it.
 

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>Too bad my friends at KAI won't tell me anything about it.

I've never heard of KAI and I did a search on Yahoo and couldn't turn up much that seemed to related to computers either. What/who is KAI?
 

MadRat

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The not-so-distant future of 64-bit computers will eliminate the FSB altogether. Someday the mHz of a computer won't mean a thing. Quantum-tivity is coming.
 

lifeguard1999

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KAI = Intel :D

KAI = Kuck &amp; Associates, Inc. They are a company that puts out (IMO) some very good compilers and programming tools. They were bought by Intel last year. My friends will only say that they are working on the next generation architectures.