What temps should I see

jleves

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I haven't done a thing yet but make sure it boots and run Setup. What temperatures should I see for a stock setup (E6600 with a Tuniq Tower)?

After about five minutes just looking at the hardware monitor in setup, I have the CPU at 23c and the mobo at 38c.

As I start overclocking, how high do you let the CPU temperature get? FYI this is an ASUS P5W and I understand they tend to report a higher temperature.
 

jleves

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After about 30 minutes of sitting in hardware monitor they have risen to 25c for the CPU and 45c for the motherboard. Am I doing OK? (no side panel on the case).
 

Accord99

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Originally posted by: jleves
As I start overclocking, how high do you let the CPU temperature get? FYI this is an ASUS P5W and I understand they tend to report a higher temperature.
Use CoreTemp or Intel TAT:

http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com/CoreTemp/
http://www.hardware.fr/marc/TAT.exe

The P5W reports temperature lower than the above (and also lower than the P5B series). The danger point for the C2D is 85C as measured by the above two utilities as that is the temperature when it begins to throttle.
 

jleves

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How could you possibly get 17c? The heat sinks only dissapate heat. That would mean your ambient room temp would have to be 62f.
 

Duvie

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Originally posted by: jleves
How could you possibly get 17c? The heat sinks only dissapate heat. That would mean your ambient room temp would have to be 62f.

Exactly...Asus has always been bullshite when it comes to reporting temps...They are consistently lower then actual ad have been for years...

For most ppl and the temp monitoring utility that came with their mobo they see coretemp temps of about 8-10c higher. this is OK cause the coretemp is a true core temp and the rest are measured outside of the core. It is expected to be higher. Tcase max is the temp Intel specifies for thermal design but represents max temp that should be measured at underside of IHS. the Tfunction Max is higher cause it is actually the temp deep within the core. That temp doesn't translate to temp at IHS...

For what I have heard pp with Asus mobos often see 18-20c difference...Asus is a joke when it come to temp mornitoring...
 

Jumpem

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Originally posted by: jleves
How could you possibly get 17c? The heat sinks only dissapate heat. That would mean your ambient room temp would have to be 62f.

I don't know, that's what The Intel tool and Core Temp both gave me.

Right now it is 63F, and I'm at ~19C.
 

Jumpem

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Originally posted by: Duvie
Exactly...Asus has always been bullshite when it comes to reporting temps...They are consistently lower then actual ad have been for years...

For most ppl and the temp monitoring utility that came with their mobo they see coretemp temps of about 8-10c higher. this is OK cause the coretemp is a true core temp and the rest are measured outside of the core. It is expected to be higher. Tcase max is the temp Intel specifies for thermal design but represents max temp that should be measured at underside of IHS. the Tfunction Max is higher cause it is actually the temp deep within the core. That temp doesn't translate to temp at IHS...

For what I have heard pp with Asus mobos often see 18-20c difference...Asus is a joke when it come to temp mornitoring...

I don't use the Asus tools. I use Core Temp and Intel Thermal Analysis Tool. Both show the same temps within a degree.

The Asus PC Probe tool gives em temps 8-10C higher than the other two actually.
 

The-Noid

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Maybe he is on water. Lets take the best air heatsink out the Tuniq Tower. . I smell BS... If you room is 63 then with absolute best contact the heatsink will dissipate .50 C/W.

The Tuniq website states that the heat sink with the pre installed 41 CFM 120mm fan has a thermal performance ratio of 0.50 C/W. This does not include the effect of the added resistance of the TIM, which will probably account for an added 2C on top of that. So, at 10 Watt Idle TDP, the Tcase temperature rise will be 5C above enclosure temperature.

The absolute best temperature you will ever see in a 63 degree room is 72 or 23 degree C. That would be with mirrored surfaces on both and using a micro fine layer of TIM.

I see -50 idle and -36 load. Oh yes stroke my ego.
 

Duvie

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I doubt those temps...even reviews on the Tuniq tower I have seen say that is not likely...Your room would have to be low 60's and the board out of the case....

The fact is the Tower, Ultra 120, and the NInjas all should do quite similar at idle with stock volts.....I keep my place cool and I dont even come close to touching those with reports of coretemp...
 

Killer4Hire

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If you really want to see your max temp on your cpu then you need to run Orthos and run some small FFT on the cpu and watch your temps at the same time. on water cooling right now idle is at 21-22c and my max load at 18mins of Orthos is 42c and holding on my e6600 mobo temp.. at 76F room temp..

Now Core Temp says 27c idle.. so it's about 5-6c higher then the mobo probe.. so i should still be under 50c max load of Otrhos by Core Temp.. I would have a hard time beleaving air cooling could do any better under Orthos.. also you need to watch the temp at the same time while your run Orthos because it will drop over 20c at the blink of your eye when you hit the stop test button.
 

n7

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LOL, your temps are borked.

You should be seeing around 40C idle, 50C+ under load.
 

Killer4Hire

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You should be seeing around 40C idle, 50C+ under load

I bet your max temp is higher under Orthos then 50C+.. a video game will never bring it to it's knees to show a max load and you will never be able to hit esc and alt key fast enough to catch it at that load unless you have a pop-up window running where you can watch it while you play.
 

n7

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Originally posted by: Killer4Hire
You should be seeing around 40C idle, 50C+ under load

I bet your max temp is higher under Orthos then 50C+.. a video game will never bring it to it's knees to show a max load and you will never be able to hit esc and alt key fast enough to catch it at that load unless you have a pop-up window running where you can watch it while you play.

There's this thing called dual displays ;)
And Orthos, of course.

My idle/load temps are much higher than what i mentioned, but he has a slightly better cooler & i'm assuming he's running stock voltages, which is far cooler than when overclocking & running higher vcore.
 

orion23

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It all depends on the cooler / case and room temperature.

My E6600 @ 3.6ghz can sometimes run @ 25c idle with a 60c to 65c ambient temperature.

Under reguar 70c + it goes up to 31c idle (Intel's TAT and CoreTemp)

I use a Thermalright Ultra 120 and a stacker case.
 

The-Noid

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JumpEm I would trust the Asus probe. You obviously have a very poorly calibrated DTS on your chip. If they are 8-10 degrees higher it is because they are reading correctly.
 

Jumpem

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Originally posted by: Yoxxy
JumpEm I would trust the Asus probe. You obviously have a very poorly calibrated DTS on your chip. If they are 8-10 degrees higher it is because they are reading correctly.

I have it at 3.6GHz now. Running Orthos Intel TAT says ~44 and PC Probe says ~55.
 

Duvie

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If pcprobe says 55c then the TAT or coretemp (whihc you should try) should read like 63-66c
 

The-Noid

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yeah it is poorly calibrated. Not the first one I have seen that has some problems.
 

Jumpem

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Originally posted by: Duvie
If pcprobe says 55c then the TAT or coretemp (whihc you should try) should read like 63-66c

PC Probe is always higher for me on a P5B Deluxe.
 

orion23

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Originally posted by: Jumpem
Originally posted by: Duvie
If pcprobe says 55c then the TAT or coretemp (whihc you should try) should read like 63-66c

PC Probe is always higher for me on a P5B Deluxe.

Probe and AIBooster are always higher for me on a P5WDG2 WS Pro as well.

When CoreTemp and TAT report 31c idle, Probe and AIBooster report 38-39c

 

Nightmare225

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I don't get it. I'm using a Zalman CNPS9500, and I'm seeing idle temps in the low 50s. Somethings borky over here... And thats without OCing...