What sweeping change would you make?

Atreus21

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Repeal the 1st amendment. Disband the IRS. End the Electoral College and go with popular vote. Overturn Citizens United.

Suppose you have the power right now to make a substantive change. You only get one. What would it be?

For myself, I stand by my earlier statement about the SCOTUS. I'd reduce the membership back to 6 justices - its original size.
 

Blue_Max

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Sweeping change? The next electoral process should be done via battle arena. :D

 

Zaap

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I'd revise the 14th Amendment to require at least one parent already be a US citizen before citizenship is granted to offspring.

The amendment was meant to address holes in the 13th regarding citizenship status for freed slaves and their offspring. It was never intended in the way it's abused today. (Just show up with no ties to the nation what-so-ever, 9 months along and pump out an automatic anchor-citizen).

It's not even logical that a nation would use such a willy-nilly impractical way of increasing its population.
 

IronWing

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It's a toss up for me. Restoring the inheritance tax to breakup oligarchy is one issue. The implementation of either a single payer healthcare system or fully socialized healthcare system is the second.

A smaller issues for me would be to get government out of the business of helping political parties select their candidates. End public support and government sponsorship of primaries. Stop asking for party affiliation on voter registration forms. There is no state interest in candidate selection and public resources should not be used in the process.
 

Ken g6

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Given Trump's gonna do what he says he's gonna do? A carbon tax. Because nobody else is gonna control carbon and nobody else is gonna raise taxes to prevent the national debt going out of control.
 

IronWing

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If we're getting rid of the 1st.. might as well take the 2nd with us LOL
I think the OP was throwing out examples of the scope of ideas he is trying to elicit, not offering these up as ideas he considers good.
 

HamburgerBoy

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Libertopia time:

Restore the Commerce Clause to its original meaning and power, destroying the war on drugs and a number of other federal debacles in one quick swoop.

Personal one-party-consent recording laws become constitutionally protected under freedom of the press. Expand the Second Amendment to explicitly cover defense of self and home. Ban the death penalty, but publicize all arrest records and most criminal evidence at the end of any criminal trial.

Shorten the duration of patents (maybe 10 years max, don't care exactly), and require businesses to provide the accounting work showing the costs associated with invention, which they are allowed to recoup by some given amount (probably a few-fold). Attempting to inflate the costs of invention immediately puts the property into the public domain.

Introduce a kind of debtor's parole where a person requiring some kind of significant expense (e.g. surgery) may receive a low interest rate loan to be paid back with a long-term payment plan, but with the caveat that all of their personal finances will be tracked and their non-vital assets liquidated until they've paid the loan off. Attempting to get out of paying it gets you sent to debtor's prison.

Remove all tax incentives involving children after the first child. Free birth control and abortion. Free fetal tests and a strong propaganda effort to shame reproduction with those deformed or mentally retarded. Legalize euthanasia and genetic engineering research.

Create a new kind of trade treaty, allowing unfettered immigration and trade between participating nations, but with the caveat that any nation agreeing must also accept our laws concerning personal liberties and property rights (including their protection with lethal force). The developing world's poor can come here and out-compete our workers, our poor can leave for countries with significantly lower standards of living.
 

Atreus21

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Libertopia time:

Restore the Commerce Clause to its original meaning and power, destroying the war on drugs and a number of other federal debacles in one quick swoop.

Personal one-party-consent recording laws become constitutionally protected under freedom of the press. Expand the Second Amendment to explicitly cover defense of self and home. Ban the death penalty, but publicize all arrest records and most criminal evidence at the end of any criminal trial.

Shorten the duration of patents (maybe 10 years max, don't care exactly), and require businesses to provide the accounting work showing the costs associated with invention, which they are allowed to recoup by some given amount (probably a few-fold). Attempting to inflate the costs of invention immediately puts the property into the public domain.

Introduce a kind of debtor's parole where a person requiring some kind of significant expense (e.g. surgery) may receive a low interest rate loan to be paid back with a long-term payment plan, but with the caveat that all of their personal finances will be tracked and their non-vital assets liquidated until they've paid the loan off. Attempting to get out of paying it gets you sent to debtor's prison.

Remove all tax incentives involving children after the first child. Free birth control and abortion. Free fetal tests and a strong propaganda effort to shame reproduction with those deformed or mentally retarded. Legalize euthanasia and genetic engineering research.

Create a new kind of trade treaty, allowing unfettered immigration and trade between participating nations, but with the caveat that any nation agreeing must also accept our laws concerning personal liberties and property rights (including their protection with lethal force). The developing world's poor can come here and out-compete our workers, our poor can leave for countries with significantly lower standards of living.
Suppose you have the power right now to make a substantive change. You only get one. What would it be?

:)
 

ivwshane

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Make redistricting done at the state level via a non partisan committee consisting of two dems, two repubs, two independents, and two others.

Other than that I would also increase the total number of HOR to ensure no district is larger than 700k people.
 
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nickqt

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Libertopia time:

Restore the Commerce Clause to its original meaning and power, destroying the war on drugs and a number of other federal debacles in one quick swoop.

Personal one-party-consent recording laws become constitutionally protected under freedom of the press. Expand the Second Amendment to explicitly cover defense of self and home. Ban the death penalty, but publicize all arrest records and most criminal evidence at the end of any criminal trial.

Shorten the duration of patents (maybe 10 years max, don't care exactly), and require businesses to provide the accounting work showing the costs associated with invention, which they are allowed to recoup by some given amount (probably a few-fold). Attempting to inflate the costs of invention immediately puts the property into the public domain.

Introduce a kind of debtor's parole where a person requiring some kind of significant expense (e.g. surgery) may receive a low interest rate loan to be paid back with a long-term payment plan, but with the caveat that all of their personal finances will be tracked and their non-vital assets liquidated until they've paid the loan off. Attempting to get out of paying it gets you sent to debtor's prison.

Remove all tax incentives involving children after the first child. Free birth control and abortion. Free fetal tests and a strong propaganda effort to shame reproduction with those deformed or mentally retarded. Legalize euthanasia and genetic engineering research.

Create a new kind of trade treaty, allowing unfettered immigration and trade between participating nations, but with the caveat that any nation agreeing must also accept our laws concerning personal liberties and property rights (including their protection with lethal force). The developing world's poor can come here and out-compete our workers, our poor can leave for countries with significantly lower standards of living.
That could be interesting. The open borders with trade partners is essentially the EU.
 

NostaSeronx

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-= Defense, Advancement, Merit =-

- Mandatory military training/fitness and optional service. Naval/Marine/Airforce ranks only. Active service(foot) age limit 35 years, Passive service(desk) age limit 70 years. Dependent on stages of human life and health.

- Removal of all forms of real world currency for real world things in real life borders. No Gold/Cash/Crypto for water, air, etc.

- The advent of the slot-based 24/7/365 workforce. If you fulfill the requirements of an open slot you get that job for the allotted hours and time it exists. First come, first serve.

- Free taxi transport. Need jobs and a way to get from location to location.

- Free education and books with the ability to select the teacher you want. Non-military training. Free to retake courses in different locations as well. Tests are uniform, randomized, and cover the whole subject; requires 100% correctness to pass. For written subjects, experiments, building/shop, etc must be achieved in a group peer or student/teacher testing setup. Must pass several times before being certified.

- Free healthcare from mandatory military training and slot-based workforce. This comes with mandatory doctor visits. Purpose to search for problems that can harm your productive self.

- Free housing required by the work place for easy transportation. This is more for location-specific slots. (Farming, Mining, Bases, etc)

- Free familial/couples housing(rural/sub-urban) and free bachelor/bachelorette/singles housing(apartments).

- Future-proof constitution:
Government stages: Local, District, State, Sector, Sub-Continental, Continental, Planetary, System, Zone, Empire/Republic/Commonwealth/bleh
Public Powers: Executive, Legislative, Judicial // Elected by merit(no term limit) or by competitive popular vote(tournament system: Infinite parties -> 16 parties -> 8 parties -> 4 parties -> 2 parties -> 1 party)((term limit determined by the people)) // Elected officials can be dynastic. -- Term limit by the people => Person gets elected lame ducks, vote to change or person does something isn't liked, vote to change.
Private Powers: Religious(faith/beliefs), Dynastic(same career choice every generation), uh what else.

- Taxes are public services; building, sharing, unification, security/defense, advancement. Mandatory work slots that are in dire need of supply.

- Two forms of marriage: reproductive and non-reproductive. One implies the intent to reproduce(eugenic), the other is not tied to reproduction(companionship). Overall, it is location-based and over-population/under-population control.

- Freedom to discuss, speak, protest and debate at any time.

- Freedom to wield any weapon that you can carry post-mil training.

- Forced Biometric ID, RF Identification, etc.

Ideal slot time;
3 hours per day before the next person works.
4 hours per day before the next person works.
6 hours per day before the next person works.
8 hours per day before the next person works.
Generally, most demanding mental/physical will be the shortest. While, the least demanding mental/physical will be the longest. Ultimately, it would be the best production rate with the lowest health risk.
 
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John Connor

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1) Flat Tax. Kill the IRS.

2) Term limits for the House, Senate and Supreme court.

3) 5 year minimum mandatory for drug users with the option of drug rehabilitation. Upon completion 2 years knocked off sentence.

4) 30 year minimum mandatory for drug pushers.

5) 30 to a life sentence for those found guilty of being in organized crime.

6) Build the wall, a project not seen since the construction of the Hoover Dam.

7) E-verify

8) Add more border guards and technology including drones. (No, not weaponized you ass clown)

9) Send in 20,000 troops to Syria and Iraq and wipe ISIS off the fucking map!

10) Kill Obozo care

11) Kill the Iran bull shit.

12) Prosecute Hillary.

13) Ban those on the terror watch list form buying a gun

14) Reduce the 35% corporate tax and regulations.

15) Fix the god damn VA!

16) Shrink the EPA's birches.

17) Cut funding to sanctuary cities.

18) Executive Order Kate's Law.

19) Promote the availability of adoption/foster care and the fact hospitals, police stations and fire stations will take your baby. Ban abortion unless rape or incest or if the mother's life is in jeopardy with mothers consent or intimidate families consent.

20) I'm thinking mandatory military service at 18 for two years. Not sure though. An all volunteer military has been successful, but recruiting is down.

I can think of many, many more...


Now you can hate me. :) :smilingimp:
 
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fskimospy

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Eliminate the presidential system of government and switch to proportional representation.
 

dank69

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Universal Healthcare or Carbon Tax, not sure which should be higher priority. Third would be free tuition to public universities, maybe all colleges/universities/trade schools.
 

fskimospy

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Repeal the 1st amendment. Disband the IRS. End the Electoral College and go with popular vote. Overturn Citizens United.

Suppose you have the power right now to make a substantive change. You only get one. What would it be?

For myself, I stand by my earlier statement about the SCOTUS. I'd reduce the membership back to 6 justices - its original size.

I'm frankly baffled as to why you would want to make SCOTUS an even number of justices considering the problems I mentioned earlier. Do you not consider the potential for someone who has committed a federal crime in Texas to be able to simply change states in order to avoid prosecution problematic? Do you not consider different interpretations of patent law in different areas of the country problematic? Etc, etc. Also, SCOTUS has been 9 justices for almost 150 years (since 1869), meaning it's had 9 for much longer than it had 6. Seems like we noticed an error and fixed it.

One more thing, how long until you think the National Review reverses itself and demands a justice be seated? lol.
 

dank69

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Why, you just neatly summarized three hours of talk radio on any given day. Your post is real time saver.
I wonder if they detail the process of shrinking birches. Apparently conservatives have discovered a new technology I think might be useful in many other sectors besides deforestation.

I'm also not sure how intimidating people's families will solve the abortion issue.
 
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1) Flat Tax. Kill the IRS. - Meh, this would also incur a pretty huge financial burden on the country

2) Term limits for the House, Senate and Supreme court. - Pretty good idea

3) 5 year minimum mandatory for drug users with the option of drug rehabilitation. Upon completion 2 years knocked off sentence. - While you're at it, I'd punish the fat fuckers too, this one is stupid conner

4) 30 year minimum mandatory for drug pushers. - see above

5) 30 to a life sentence for those found guilty of being in organized crime. - extenuating circumstances prohibit this

6) Build the wall, a project not seen since the construction of the Hoover Dam. - just dumb, flat out dumb idea, logistically and financially impossible

7) E-verify - who verify's the verifiers?

8) Add more border guards and technology including drones. (No, not weaponized you ass clown) - meh, ok.

9) Send in 20,000 troops to Syria and Iraq and wipe ISIS off the fucking map! - isis is an idea, not a location fucktard,

10) Kill Obozo care - needs modification, not obliteration

11) Kill the Iran bull shit. - ???

12) Prosecute Hillary. - Fine, prosecute drumpf as well, and cheney, rumsfeld and bush

13) Ban those on the terror watch list form buying a gun - are you actually aware of what puts people on a watch list (sometimes it's just a casio watch, fucky mcfuctard)

14) Reduce the 35% corporate tax and regulations. - Yes, because when the USA was thriving corp tax rates were at an all time low :rolleyes:

15) Fix the god damn VA! - agree 100%

16) Shrink the EPA's birches. - birches?? like the tree?

17) Cut funding to sanctuary cities. - I do not know enough about this to state one way or the other

18) Executive Order Kate's Law. - nope, too much grey area for shennanigans

19) Promote the availability of adoption/foster care and the fact hospitals, police stations and fire stations will take your baby. Ban abortion unless rape or incest or if the mother's life is in jeopardy with mothers consent or intimidate families consent. - fvck you, you have no place in a womans womb

20) I'm thinking mandatory military service at 18 for two years. Not sure though. An all volunteer military has been successful, but recruiting is down. - and your fatass would be doing what?

I can think of many, many more...


Now you can hate me. :) :smilingimp:

you have about 2 good ideas in your fascist to do list
 

NostaSeronx

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Is it communism or is it Heinlein?
Neosocialistic-Meritocracy;
One of the oldest examples of a merit-based civil service system existed in the imperial bureaucracy of China. Tracing back to 200 B.C., the Han Dynasty adopted Confucianism as the basis of its political philosophy and structure, which included the revolutionary idea of replacing nobility of blood with one of virtue and honesty, and thereby calling for administrative appointments to be based solely on merit. This system allowed anyone who passed an examination to become a government officer, a position that would bring wealth and honor to the whole family. In part due to Chinese influence, the first European civil service did not originate in Europe, but rather in India by the British-run East India Company... company managers hired and promoted employees based on competitive examinations in order to prevent corruption and favoritism.
With modern standards merit by dynasty can be tested. Merit by open debate, discussion, various tests and exams etc.

Hybridization and Unification are the only clear ways to exist without being destroyed by superior power. Stratification is by far the most damaging thing any modern nation can suffer.
 
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