Question What SSD to choose from that list?

[Perene]

The prices are similar, yet the brands are different, so is how much they store and the speeds.... While Samsung is (I believe) the best there is, I was wondering if any of the alternatives would be enough.

If you could only choose one... what would you do?

Note: this is meant to be the MAIN drive, where C: is located.

I plan to buy, regardless of what I get, a 2nd SSD. For now, I am only choosing 2 or 4 TB.

#1
SAMSUNG HD SSD M.2 2TB 970 EVO Plus 2TB (MZ-V7S2T0BW) NVME 3500 MB/S
Prince range: $ 188 ----------- 250

#2
Samsung Ssd 2 TB 980 Pro 7000mbs V-nand M.2 Nvme Pcie 4.0
Mz-v8p2t0bw
$ 220

#3
SSD 2 TB Kingston Fury Renegade, M.2 2280 PCIe, NVMe, Reading: 7300MB/s Writing:: 7000MB/s, SFYRD/2000G
$ 248

#4
SSD KINGSTON NV2, 4TB, M.2 NVME, 2280, / 3500MBS / Writing 2800MBS
SNV2S/4000G
$ 318

#5
SSD PNY CS2241 4TB, M.2 2280 NVMe PCIe Gen4x4, NVMe 1.4, Reading: 5.000 MB/s Writing: 4.200 MB/s - M280CS2241-4TB-CL
$ 373

#6
SSD 4 TB 870 Qvo Sata3 560mbs Samsung Mz-77q4t0bw
$ 323

#7
Ssd M2 4tb Crucial P3 Pcie 3.0 Nvme - Ct4000p3ssd8
$ 494

 

[Hotrod2go]

You got a mix of PCIe3 & 4 drives there, what does your motherboard support?

 

[Shmee]

Where will you be buying from, and what region/country are you in? Here in USA you can get a Samsung 980 Pro 2TB for $99 from Amazon. https://www.amazon.com/SAMSUNG-Inte..._1?keywords=980+pro+2tb&qid=1688632774&sr=8-1

Of the drives you listed, that 980 Pro SSD is the best.

 

[igor_kavinski]

SSD 2 TB Kingston Fury Renegade

Don't trust Samsung for a boot drive. As a game drive, it may be OK. They have had quality control issues in the recent past.

 

[mikeymikec]

@Perene

What's this drive going to be used for? QLC drives like the Samsung QVO are much slower to write to, but that might not be important for the use you have in mind.

 

[igor_kavinski]

QLC drives like the Samsung QVO are much slower to write to, but that might not be important for the use you have in mind.

I wouldn't trust QLC for data retention of anything important. As a scratch drive, it would be fine. If the drive is left powered off for an extended period of time, data integrity may be affected. I haven't read anything about this happening in the real world with QLC but Samsung in the past has had data retention issues with their EVO line which they fixed with a firmware update. That makes me leery about QVO, their "bargain basement" brand.

I should mention that I had a really bad data loss experience with Samsung 860 EVO where the OS partition started losing data INSIDE Windows 10 (I actually saw folders/files disappearing in Windows Explorer) on the OS partition while the other partition remained intact.

 

[mikeymikec]

I haven't started trusting QLC either, but it must have its uses despite its probably-worse-than-HDD write performance. If you're buying QLC for a reason, it's likely because you've got a lot of data to store*, at which point most scenarios pretty much require a backup system. If your backup system is en-pointe, then many scenarios ought to be able to withstand a drive failure.

* - along with SSD read performance being useful to you, or maybe just a silent rig.

 

[Perene]

SSD 2 TB Kingston Fury Renegade

Don't trust Samsung for a boot drive. As a game drive, it may be OK. They have had quality control issues in the recent past.

I think the last problem was this one:

The Kingstons I looked into don't have great reviews... https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/kingston-fury-renegade

I forgot to add WD here, but the problem is that for some reason all their drives are more expensive than others, even Samsung...

@Perene

What's this drive going to be used for? QLC drives like the Samsung QVO are much slower to write to, but that might not be important for the use you have in mind.

I heard about QVOs not being as good as the others...

Assuming these two are priced the same (or the difference is negligible):

#1

Samsung 870 QVO SATA III 2,5 - 4TB (MZ-77Q4T0B)

870 QVO SATA III 2.5" SSD 4TB Memory & Storage - MZ-77Q4T0B/AM | Samsung US

Discover the latest features and innovations available in the 870 QVO SATA III 2.5 inches SSD 4TB. Find the perfect Memory & Storage for you!

www.samsung.com

and

#2

SAMSUNG SSD internal 870 EVO 4TB SATA III, 2.5 (MZ-77E4T0B/AM)

870 EVO SATA 2.5 inch 4TB SSD | Samsung US

Maximize capacity with the 870 EVO SATA 2.5" 4TB SSD. Fast, durable, and ideal for heavy workloads. Order today for ultimate performance!

www.samsung.com

I should get the EVO instead?

EDIT: found the answer: EVOs are better: https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/samsung-qvo-vs-evo-guide/

 

[mikeymikec]

The 870 EVO uses TLC NAND which performs better than QLC. But be aware that for example the Crucial P3 also uses QLC NAND but they 'forgot' to mention that on the official specs. Reviews seem to be the best place to find this information.

Even Samsung is a little cheeky on this front: The official QVO page mentions QLC but also says '4-bit MLC' in the official specs which is QLC.

Re Samsung - I trust them, though I always do a firmware update check on them first. Every one I've bought had up-to-date firmware since I started checking.

 

[Hotrod2go]

What would I ultimately choose? the one that has the longest warranty in combo with the fastest speed & capacity. All those brand names are pretty good so you'll be alright.

Maybe a sample of one, but my Samsung 850 Pro - 250GB is still working perfectly well in my AM3+ rig since some 8 yrs after purchasing it.

 

[igor_kavinski]

Maybe a sample of one, but my Samsung 850 Pro - 250GB is still working perfectly well in my AM3+ rig since some 8 yrs after purchasing it.

That's a legendary drive. I think one tech website was able to hammer it with 5 petabytes of data before its 3D NAND cells wore out. I think Samsung CEO was not amused that this NAND could last 20 years or more for normal users so their subsequent consumer products have used much inferior NAND.

 

[Hotrod2go]

That's a legendary drive. I think one tech website was able to hammer it with 5 petabytes of data before its 3D NAND cells wore out. I think Samsung CEO was not amused that this NAND could last 20 years or more for normal users so their subsequent consumer products have used much inferior NAND.

With a 10 yr warranty, it had better last. Samsung must have a lot of faith in that product line.

 

[Perene]

I ended up getting the

WD Black SN850x 2 TB NVMe M.2 2280 and the Samsung 870 EVO 4 TB (both yet to be shipped).

I was going to get the 980 Pro, however decided not to, I can't take the risk of having any firmware issue, and even if they were (or are) fixed, somehow find out the drive wasn't supposed to last, later.