I'm feeling all cocky about myself right now, and I'm wondering if I really should =). So what speed could you get your V3 2000 to if you had/have one? I'm at 195 core/clock now after adding a fan and no problems. I'm quite happy as I only payed $40 for it =).
What speed could most people get their Voodoo3 2000 to?
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Sounds like a good overclock - I've got two V3-2000s at home - one of them only made it to 166mhz becuase of bad memory, and the other made it to 190mhz
tweakr
Sounds like a good overclock - I've got two V3-2000s at home - one of them only made it to 166mhz becuase of bad memory, and the other made it to 190mhz
tweakr
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Lifer
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I get 180, stable. (I consider it stable if it handles extended (> 1 hr) serious gaming and several loops of 3DMark2000 with ZERO glitches or artifacts. I can run 190+ in Windows forever though.)
181 is absolute max with serious cooling. I think I might have got the rare artifact though, can't be 100% sure. At 183 I get lots of artifacts. At 185 it crashes no matter what the cooling is.
It's amazing how obvious the differences are with 1 or 2 MHz increments. By the way, I had to remove the old heatsink and completely redo the heatsink install (with a bigger one) to get these speeds.
It sounds like you got a very good chip.
181 is absolute max with serious cooling. I think I might have got the rare artifact though, can't be 100% sure. At 183 I get lots of artifacts. At 185 it crashes no matter what the cooling is.
It's amazing how obvious the differences are with 1 or 2 MHz increments. By the way, I had to remove the old heatsink and completely redo the heatsink install (with a bigger one) to get these speeds.
It sounds like you got a very good chip.
Have mine running perfectly at 183 w/ just a fan. Seeing how you got yours at 195... wow. That must be the highest working-stable setting I've heard of so far.
Wait, tweakr, what kind of ram do you have?!?! What do you mean bad ram?!?! Did you try putting heatsinks on the ram?!?!
Hmm...maybe it's cause I recently bought it, and 3dfx might be improving their yields at higher rate chips? That is if they even make it still or these are just left overs =).
On another note, going from 143MHz to 195 made my Quake 3 framerate go from 43.5 to 44.9 in 640x480...not exactly the increase I was hoping for. Quake 2 showed much better improvements. Anyone else having similar results with Q3? This is on a PII-450 @ 504, so I don't think the CPU is that much of a bottleneck.
On another note, going from 143MHz to 195 made my Quake 3 framerate go from 43.5 to 44.9 in 640x480...not exactly the increase I was hoping for. Quake 2 showed much better improvements. Anyone else having similar results with Q3? This is on a PII-450 @ 504, so I don't think the CPU is that much of a bottleneck.
ssjgokou1 - The 166mhz one is one of the few 2000s out there that have SGRAM rather than SDRAM...SGRAM doesn't overclock as well as SDRAM, that's why it'll only hit 166 - and the RAM doesn't become hot anyway - it's just the RAM limit...
Gophermobile - I think you may be right there....I just bought my second 2000, and it can hit 190mhz...the first only made it to 166 (true, it was RAM limited....but I doubt the core could go much higher either - gets very warm....)
cheers
tweakr
Gophermobile - I think you may be right there....I just bought my second 2000, and it can hit 190mhz...the first only made it to 166 (true, it was RAM limited....but I doubt the core could go much higher either - gets very warm....)
cheers
tweakr
GopherMobile - the reason your frame rate didn't move much is because at that resolution, the cpu is doing the work, not the vid card. bump your res up to 800, 1024 and then the fillrate of the card is the determining factor, and by overclocking the card you are increasing the fillrate.
Plester is right. My old PC was a k6-2 450 and I was probably always limited by the CPU. When I got my Athlon 600 things changed.
640 was good. 800 was good, but 1024 was noticeably slower. If I oc'd from 166 to 185 my framerates were pretty much the same at 640 and 800, but at 1024 I increased my UT scores considerably.
640 was good. 800 was good, but 1024 was noticeably slower. If I oc'd from 166 to 185 my framerates were pretty much the same at 640 and 800, but at 1024 I increased my UT scores considerably.
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I got significant improvements in frame rate by upping the speed of the 2000. Well, actually only a few fps (3 or 4), but it made me happy. 
I was running 800x600 or 1024x768 though.
I put heatsinks on the thing, but I'm firmly convinced it did absolutely nothing. (I didn't test it as extensively prior to putting the ramsinks on, but it didn't seem to do much afterwards.)
I bought my card last month, so I'm not so sure about the yields argument.
I was running 800x600 or 1024x768 though.I put heatsinks on the thing, but I'm firmly convinced it did absolutely nothing. (I didn't test it as extensively prior to putting the ramsinks on, but it didn't seem to do much afterwards.)
I bought my card last month, so I'm not so sure about the yields argument.
what do you mean that sgram doesn't overclock as well as sdram?!?! Maybe so, but by a few mhz, anyways, the guy who has his at 195mhz has a sgram model, right? He said that it is new right? And the new ones are only sgram.
How could there be a ram limit? I hope you are assuming. Anyways, you said that the second one you bought had better ram right? Was that new one sdram or sgram? What kind of ram was your first one?
How could there be a ram limit? I hope you are assuming
. Anyways, you said that the second one you bought had better ram right? Was that new one sdram or sgram? What kind of ram was your first one?what do you mean that sgram doesn't overclock as well as sdram?!?! Maybe so, but by a few mhz, anyways, the guy who has his at 195mhz has a sgram model, right? He said that it is new right? And the new ones are only sgram.
How could there be a ram limit? I hope you are assuming. Anyways, you said that the second one you bought had better ram right? Was that new one sdram or sgram? What kind of ram was your first one?
How could there be a ram limit? I hope you are assuming
. Anyways, you said that the second one you bought had better ram right? Was that new one sdram or sgram? What kind of ram was your first one?what do you mean that sgram doesn't overclock as well as sdram?!?! Maybe so, but by a few mhz, anyways, the guy who has his at 195mhz has a sgram model, right? He said that it is new right? And the new ones are only sgram.
How could there be a ram limit? I hope you are assuming. Anyways, you said that the second one you bought had better ram right? Was that new one sdram or sgram? What kind of ram was your first one?
How could there be a ram limit? I hope you are assuming
. Anyways, you said that the second one you bought had better ram right? Was that new one sdram or sgram? What kind of ram was your first one?ssjgokou1
The guy at 195 doesn't say that he has SGRAM...and my new one has SDRAM...and clocks at 190 - the older one with SGRAM doesn't clock up as well. Most of the reviews on the net explain that SGRAM won't overclock as well (most of the time) as SDRAM - will someone else please back me up on this?!?!
And I think there's a RAM limit becuase even when I sandwitched two CPU heatsinks on it, the max limit of the card was 166....and this is with a 120mm front mounted fan and a 92mm blowhole over the card...
The guy at 195 doesn't say that he has SGRAM...and my new one has SDRAM...and clocks at 190 - the older one with SGRAM doesn't clock up as well. Most of the reviews on the net explain that SGRAM won't overclock as well (most of the time) as SDRAM - will someone else please back me up on this?!?!
And I think there's a RAM limit becuase even when I sandwitched two CPU heatsinks on it, the max limit of the card was 166....and this is with a 120mm front mounted fan and a 92mm blowhole over the card...
humm... Funny how you found an old v3 with sgram, but a new one with sdram. I don't know where they sell sdram ones anymore.
Anyways, why doesn't the author of the thread please tell us what kind of ram you have!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am sure that maybe there are people out there that have v3 2k's with sgram, and they could overclock past 166mhz.
I will make a new thread on 3dfxgamers, and this place, and see what people say.
Anyways, why doesn't the author of the thread please tell us what kind of ram you have!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am sure that maybe there are people out there that have v3 2k's with sgram, and they could overclock past 166mhz.
I will make a new thread on 3dfxgamers, and this place, and see what people say.
tweak, I found out that the v3 2k's and 3k's both have the same ram (samsung) so you are telling me that I couldn't overclock my v3 3k 1-2 mhz? Are you absolutely positive that the v3 3k's ram's don't overclock a mhz higher?
I heard that there are people who got 210mhz on their voodoo3 3k.
I for one got 220mhz on my v3 3k tv. Of course I put alpha's on my rams.
I heard that there are people who got 210mhz on their voodoo3 3k.
I for one got 220mhz on my v3 3k tv. Of course I put alpha's on my rams.
ssjgokou1
I never said that there weren't V3 2k's with sgram that COULDN'T overclock past 166mhz...just that mine wouldn't. It depends entirely on the quality of the individual RAM chips - the poorest one determines the maximum overclockable speed.
Also, the 2000 and 3000 may have the same RAM, but I'll bet it's rated differently - the 2000 RAM will most likely be rated at a lower speed than the 3000. The v3 3000 chip itself may overclock higher, but because the Voodoo3 has a synchronous chip/RAM clock, the RAM will be the limiting factor if it is poor quality RAM.
I'm sure there are people that have got 210mhz on their V3 3000, or higher like yourself, but they therefore either got some very good SGRAM or good SDRAM...
tweakr
I never said that there weren't V3 2k's with sgram that COULDN'T overclock past 166mhz...just that mine wouldn't. It depends entirely on the quality of the individual RAM chips - the poorest one determines the maximum overclockable speed.
Also, the 2000 and 3000 may have the same RAM, but I'll bet it's rated differently - the 2000 RAM will most likely be rated at a lower speed than the 3000. The v3 3000 chip itself may overclock higher, but because the Voodoo3 has a synchronous chip/RAM clock, the RAM will be the limiting factor if it is poor quality RAM.
I'm sure there are people that have got 210mhz on their V3 3000, or higher like yourself, but they therefore either got some very good SGRAM or good SDRAM...
tweakr
One question though...what speed do people get in Quake 3 at 640x480 with a processor similar to mine?(PII-450@504). Like I said I got 44.9 with the V3 at 195MHz. This is with just about everything on that's possible for the Voodoo3, except the texture slider is one down from max.
GopherMobile
I get 46fps exactly with my V3@183 and Celeron 550 with the sames settings as you at 640*480
tweakr
I get 46fps exactly with my V3@183 and Celeron 550 with the sames settings as you at 640*480
tweakr
Ok...I checked the memory on my V3. How the heck do you know if it's SDRAM or SGRAM?!?! Here's the numbers I saw on the memory:
0008 3-1
MT 48LCIM16A1
TG -7 S E
And if it matters the board is revision C.
Does the -7 mean the memory is 7ns memory? If so, why can I get so near 200MHz with it while GeForce 2 GTSs seem to have trouble reaching 200MHz(or 400DDR) for the most part when they've got 6ns memory?
0008 3-1
MT 48LCIM16A1
TG -7 S E
And if it matters the board is revision C.
Does the -7 mean the memory is 7ns memory? If so, why can I get so near 200MHz with it while GeForce 2 GTSs seem to have trouble reaching 200MHz(or 400DDR) for the most part when they've got 6ns memory?
hey could you tell me where you got your voodoo for only 40 bucks. thats a heck of a deal....im looking for one too
it's a lot of hard work, and a lot of luck too. Just got one today for $13 after tax, rebateS shipping and more rebates and pricematching and coupons, and did I say pricematching?
Paulson, you got a sdram right?
To the author of thread, are there eight rams or four?
Paulson, you got a sdram right?
To the author of thread, are there eight rams or four?
gopher, it's more difficult that just that, there is other factors which limit the gf2 to getting the ram up higher, perhaps the architecture, or maybe the DDR, I have yet to find out what that is
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