What should I do?

KingofFah

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I have three important upgrades that I want to do.
2100 Tbred B (going to try for at least 2800 speeds, should be easy)
New video card (this will wait until I try D3 on my 4600 and see if it is a major thing to do)
Another stick of 512 2700 (it is just so dirt cheap in comparison to pre-Christmas).

I already have 512, do you really think it is that important to add another 512 at this moment. Would it better to allocate more funds to the 2100 and a new vid card?
When I find out whether the 5800 non-U version will overclock to the speed of the U version, I will make a decision on what I should do vid card wise.
The way I see it, if the 5800 non-U overclocks well, it will be well under its release price of 300$ by July (eta for D3 changed from march to July!?). What I had in mind is to buy the 2100 (unless the Tbred-B 'a' stepping or a new one that is better is easy to get) once the bartons start to increase in numbers (mid march?) Buy the vid card, and then, if the RAM gods are feeling good, buy another stick of 512.
RAM always goes down at certain times. I just do not want to wait until the next chinese new year to add another stick. True, that I might have to upgrade my mobo by then as well. I have the 8k3a ATM, so I should be able to stay well up there by simply overclocking the tbred. Do you think by next year in January a 1GB 166FSB XP 2800-3000+ GeForce FX setup will be too far behind the times? The only thing I could say yes to would be the vid card. Aside from that, I think everything else will be very close to top-of-the-line, since we might be seeing 3.6 ghz processors around (hammer Q4 2003?, prescott when?).

Opinions: Do you think the ti4600 will run D3 and D3 engine based games well? It is a dx8 engine. Since D and Q are and will always be the main games I play, I picture myself playing Q4, whenever it releases, for a long time. Played Q1 until Q2; played Q2 until Q3, and I played Q3 till recently, since all the good players seemed to have disappeared. I miss playing ppl like fatality, of course if he is still as good as the last time I played with him, I probably would not be able to go head2head with him. I miss playing quake, but there is no one to play. I havent played Q3 since the summer :(
Since I will probably be playing them for a long period of time, does it make sense to get a card that will run them very well? I think so, that is how I justify getting an FX.
Please do not tell me to get a radeon, let's not turn this into a nvidia vs ati discussion. If you cannot do that, then please pretend I said "I want a better card than my ti4600", and imagine it as whatever you like.
 

jiffylube1024

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um, you have too much money to spend ;) .

Seriously though, I'd get the 2100+ for now. You really don't need either of the other two upgrades yet. Another 512MB won't give you any tangible speed improvement in games unless you have like 500MB of RAM used in the background (for some unknown reason). Also, the 4600 is a near top-of-the-line card right now. Don't replace it until it needs to be replaced! Also, an even better card will come out before Doom 3 (how do I know this? ATI's next card is set for the next month or two, and nvidia will surely follow not too many months after).

So, I say get the 2100+, and wait for Doom 3 to actually come out before you upgrade your card. The FX will be WAY cheaper by then, or a better card will be out at the same price. The memory will be cheaper, and heck 3200 DDR will probably be cheaper by then.

Do I think the 4600 will run D3 ok? Yes. Do I think it will be able to run it with max details/bump mapping/effects/eye candy? No - carmack said a DX9 card would be best (well, actually he said the Radeon 9700 will run it fine, as will nvidia's next card - the FX). Doom 3 family games? Probably not since it won't run D3 *pefectly*, as Carmack says. But wait until then, otherwise you'll be wanting to get a GF FX 2 or whatever comes out before D3 does.
 

KingofFah

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Actually I do not have a lot of money, lol. That's why I was wondering what I should do with the little I have ATM. That ram is just so cheap! I guess I do not need it.
Does anyone know when prescott scheduled for launch?
Do you think the 2100 will drop down some more when Barton becomes popular (if it does)?