What should be done with Ground Zero???

[RJHNY1]

There is a big debate about what to do with Ground Zero. There are 16 acres of land that needs to be built. What do you guys feel should be done? I feel that the twin towers should be rebuilt and the memorial be in the towers or a separate memorial next to the towers. There are memorialists are who are pissing me off that all 16 acres should be devoted to a memorial since it is "sacred ground." I live on Long Island, NY and I was able to see the skyline from my town. Not seeing the twins towers pisses me off and upsets me b/c they belong there.

I feel the 2 towers should be built because:
-not rebuilding shows defeat
-not rebuilding shows terrorists that they can dictate our every day life; it will be a victory from them.
-we have to replace the loss of office space
-restore the NYC skyline
-if other landmarks were destroyed, they were rebuilt (Pentagon-2002, White House-During Rev War)
-if land is devoted to memorial, then it will become a dead area and haven for drug users and junkies in 10 years.
-nothing memorializes victims more than 2 tall towers...which will be for life, not an area of death.
-2 tall towers can be a memorial that people can see from miles away.

What do you guys think?

 

[sandorski]

I dunno. To me a memorial park seems to be the best way to honour all those who died, but I understand the idea for re-building the towers. One other option might be to re-build, but in honour of those victims build something extra special. Make it the tallest building in the world or something like that.

 

[ultimatebob]

Well.... NYC could use a another football stadium, maybe we could build it there!

Seriously, I doubt that anything even resembling the twin towers will be rebuilt there. Sure, it would make a statement to the rest of the world, but who would WANT to work there knowing that would be the #1 terrorist target in the country?!?

 

[conjur]

Read an interview some weeks ago with the guy who would basically be making the decision as to what goes there and he said he'd have a lot of trouble building something so big again, due to costs and lack of interest in a very tall skyscraper (trouble getting tenants). He said several buildings in the 40- to 50-story range along with a memorial is probably what will go there.

And I saw on the news the other night that those towers of light will be lit soon (if they aren't already)

 

[A5]

<< but who would WANT to work there knowing that would be the #1 terrorist target in the country?!? >>


Exactly...unless they want to put SAMs on them, then I think the most likely(and best, IMO) option is a collection of smaller buildings with a memorial in the middle or in one of the lobbies. No matter what, there will be SOME kind of memorial, but they have to build it up because the land is worth too much not to. Sad but true.

 

[Capn]

towers of light? sounds cool

I think they should rebuild with more smaller buildings an include a memorial somewhere in the complex. It would be nice to keep the tower of lights thing going. I assume they point a number of lights upward to recreate the sense of two towers right?

 

[Czar]

The same two towers should not be built unless they redisgn it so it will be a little bit safer.

I personaly think that some sortof a building should be built there, something that can reprisent a monument and can be used for offices.

 

[RJHNY1]

I heard a suggestion that there should be better fire sprinklers in the new towers, if built. Something like foam to quickly put out fires, even fires as big as jet fuel. That sounds like a good idea to me.

Czar, safer? Those towers were pretty safe. They stood for like a full hour before collapsing. However, if they do rebuild it, it should be more modernized and better safety techniques should be institued in the buildings (foam to put out fires, better escape routes, etc, etc)

 

[Capn]

"I heard a suggestion that there should be better fire sprinklers in the new towers, if built. Something like foam to quickly put out fires, even fires as big as jet fuel. That sounds like a good idea to me. "

From what I've heard there was enough fuel to send a fireball all the way down the elevator shaft to the basement. There's no way to have enough sprinklers for that.

 

[Nightfall]

Rebuild them. Make the twin towers, but make them more technologically advanced. There are hundreds of thousands of viable targets for terrorists to aim at. Even if we made it a monument, it wouldn't stop being a target. Make it something that can provide space and jobs for the area.

 

[Czar]

<< Czar, safer? Those towers were pretty safe. They stood for like a full hour before collapsing. However, if they do rebuild it, it should be more modernized and better safety techniques should be institued in the buildings (foam to put out fires, better escape routes, etc, etc) >>


Thats mostly what I mean, getting rid of aspestos and such. Also I saw some science show on tv a week ago that was showing an idea from some scientist that if you created spacers every some 10 stories or so and then spacers inside, so it would be like blocks inside the building it would result that when one block falls it wont tear the whole building down. Interesting idea, not sure how it works in the real world though.


... reminds me of the titanic idea *shudder*

 

[Squisher]

How about letting the owner of the land decide whatever he/she/they want to put there.

 

[Linux23]

i want my Twin Towers back. it's been there when i was a little boy, and its been there when i am a grown man.


like the original poster said, it pisses me off when i look out of my window and don't see them there. i used to drive downtown Jersey City for work early in the AM, and it was so beautiful to see the sun rise right in between the Two Towers. just beautiful.

 

[RJHNY1]

Linux, Larry Silverstein, the owner of this land does want to build the twin towers. The problem is "September's Mission." They represent the families of those who have died. SM is greedy and they want the whole site to themselves. They are trying to prevent Silverstein to build new towers. Silverstein wants to break ground to rebuild the 7 WTC on Sept 11, 2002, but SM is trying to prevent that. Bunch of greedy bastards.

I do share your pain Linux, those towers should be back up.

 

[XMan]

I saw we build them again.

Make them twice as tall - make them the biggest buildings every built; make them a statement to the kind of evil sons of bitches that could consider killing thousands of innocent people condoned by whatever religious worldview they have.

And better yet, mount those spotlights they're using where towers used to be on the very top, so that you can see the beam of light in the night sky from a thousand miles away.

 

[conjur]

RJHNY1,

From what I've read, the residents oppose the rebuilding of WTC 7 as it was as it blocked Greenwich Street and cut off the trade center area from TriBeCa. Silverstein is looking to alter the designs by reducing the size by 300,000 sq. ft. and make way for the street. He's supposed to also be using environmentally sound building elements, too.

And, here's some info on Towers of Light

 

[jaybittle]

I voted for re-building the WTC area, but not the Twin Towers.. a bunch of 50 story buildings on that site would make a lot more sense..

If you rebuilt the towers, I think a lot of people, even New Yorkers (of which I am one), would be afraid to work there again.. Four 50-story towers would be the same as the original two, and people would probably feel a whole lot better.... Now, there is still concern about the infra-structure that lies beneath the WTC complex, so it might not be able to withstand the pressure of four buildings.. we'll see..

cheers,
--jb

 

[Freejack2]

The site had two buildings crash into the ground, I doubt the area could hold more than one or two 25 story buildings. Also I don't think most people would be willing to work in a 100+ story tower again unless some assurance of making it bomb/airplane proof enough that the whole building(s) won't collapse. I imagine it would also cost a small fortune to make that area stable enough again to take a 100+ story tower(s). Perhaps a really big 30-35 story building that was large enough to capacitate something similar to what the twin towers used to hold.

That or 5 buildings with the outer four 25 stories each and the middle building 50 stories.

 

[Spike]

just build one 200 story tall tower.

seriously, I think they should rebuild the 2 towers but in the same way as the empire state building. The ESB has a air force bomber crash into it a long time ago and had very little damage done to it so if they built the new WTC towers like that then maybe people would work in them again

 

[b0mbrman]

It's expensive and important real estate...it only makes sense to put something there

 

[gooseman]

I'm not really sure but at this point, it almost seems like Holy Ground. Kinda like Indian Burial Mounds. Just my .02 worth.

 

[notfred]

Build something better. Not necesarily taller, but a better constructed, nicer building (or buildings).

 

[rubix]

how bout a starbucks?

 

[BuckleDownBen]

They should build two 3 story buildings that have basements that are 100 stories each.

 

[Logix]

From the NY Times, here is a couple artists' conception of what the beams of light would look like.

I think they should definitely rebuild, but probably not as tall as before. Still, they should be nearly the tallest buildings in the city. Of course, a memorial is a must, but the towers in one form or another, need to be rebuilt.