i'll state what i got later, till i get some responses
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6703388
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6703388
what score for 3dmark01, 1700xp, 4200 128mb, km266 chipset, no OC at all
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just go to prolly not a direct link cuz you need to log in to the ORB and search for other setups that are nearly identical to yours.
now, you'll see a lot of high scores that may be unrealistic (they might have artifacts all over the place, but, hey, 3dmark ran and gave a score!), but it should give you a decent range where you should fit in.
i searched for you and came up with a range from 11400 to like 9000. i chose a cpu speed between like 1460 and 1470 since at stock yours should run right in there. i imagine those high scores are those who oc. while, w/o ocing, you should be in the lower range.
when i wanted to estimate what an old rig would do when upgraded from a pIII 600 w/ a 32mb gts-v to a 1.4celery w/ ti4200 128mb, i simply put those in and looked at the range. and, sure enough, it fell right in that range once everything was installed.
deadseasquirrel
now, you'll see a lot of high scores that may be unrealistic (they might have artifacts all over the place, but, hey, 3dmark ran and gave a score!), but it should give you a decent range where you should fit in.
i searched for you and came up with a range from 11400 to like 9000. i chose a cpu speed between like 1460 and 1470 since at stock yours should run right in there. i imagine those high scores are those who oc. while, w/o ocing, you should be in the lower range.
when i wanted to estimate what an old rig would do when upgraded from a pIII 600 w/ a 32mb gts-v to a 1.4celery w/ ti4200 128mb, i simply put those in and looked at the range. and, sure enough, it fell right in that range once everything was installed.
deadseasquirrel
well im getting 8100. im running 30.82 drivers, and still at directx 8.1. you guys think i should upgrade to 9.0? and what drivers are good for a 4200?? don't want to degrade from IQ.
i upgraded to dx9 and went to the 44.03 dets. it may have given a tiny boost, if any. and i think some of the latest games are requiring the latest directx to run, if i'm not mistaken.
with no oc'ing at all, i think your score is about right.
with a stock 1.4ghz celeron and a ti4200 128mb @ 315/545, i'm at 7800 (on an old slot 1 mobo w/ sdram).
seriously, i don't know what brand of ti4200 you have, but every one i have seen oc's well over stock w/o requiring additional cooling or giving any problems.
remember to shut down background apps while running 3dmark. and, like others will say, 3dmark isn't exactly the best measurement one should use when determining the performance of their machine. at best, it is merely a guide to point out if something is waaaaay outta whack (i.e. rig too unstable to loop or score so low it's laughable, etc). what matters most is the performance in the applications you use or games you run.
deadseasquirrel
with no oc'ing at all, i think your score is about right.
with a stock 1.4ghz celeron and a ti4200 128mb @ 315/545, i'm at 7800 (on an old slot 1 mobo w/ sdram).
seriously, i don't know what brand of ti4200 you have, but every one i have seen oc's well over stock w/o requiring additional cooling or giving any problems.
remember to shut down background apps while running 3dmark. and, like others will say, 3dmark isn't exactly the best measurement one should use when determining the performance of their machine. at best, it is merely a guide to point out if something is waaaaay outta whack (i.e. rig too unstable to loop or score so low it's laughable, etc). what matters most is the performance in the applications you use or games you run.
deadseasquirrel
its just that before i was running a tbird 750, with gig of pc133, and i got 6000. when i switched to 1700+ and ddr, i got 8000. i kinda hoped i would have gotten more than a 2000 point jump. kinda hoping for 10k but guess it was wishful thinking. i thought my tbird severely bottlenecked my 4200. like a 4000 point difference, i guess not. but hey, spearhead runs smooth now. =)
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*looks for link to 3DMark score for jjyiz28* 
I guess I won't be able to offer any advice *shrugs*
My scores on XP1600/PC2100/nForce/WinMe:
Stock = 9307
Overclocked = 9664
For cards Ti4200 and better, CPU speed makes a big difference. For older cards, not much at all.
I guess I won't be able to offer any advice *shrugs*
My scores on XP1600/PC2100/nForce/WinMe:
Stock = 9307
Overclocked = 9664
For cards Ti4200 and better, CPU speed makes a big difference. For older cards, not much at all.
With my old 1600+ and a ti200 i got 8500. When i got my ti4600 for it, i got just over 12000. Now that i bought a new processor and motherboard, I get over 15k.
So based on my scores, yours seems low to me. I would expect it to get a little over 10k.
So based on my scores, yours seems low to me. I would expect it to get a little over 10k.
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I don't see anything really out of the ordinary, other than your scores simply being lower. This can be caused by a lot of things such as your card's Core and Memory speed, BIOS settings, and drivers. The 30.82 Det's are some good drivers which most people seem to have good compatibility with, but the newer drivers have included "optimizations" (as much as we hate to say/hear that) for 3DMark01, though they only affect the "Game 4 - Nature" test (it is quite obvious in the FPS, not IQ). The other tests shouldn't be affected.
What manufacturer makes the card?
What are the card's Core and Mem speeds?
What are your CPU and mobo temps? (if you don't have a hardware monitoring program for Windows, you can check it in your BIOS by rebooting immediately after a 3DMark test)
What are your RAM settings and AGP Aperature Size (BIOS)?
albatron made my card, 4x, non turbo version
clocked at 250/250 stock
cpu/mb temps : 47/25c
aperture size 128mb
fast write enabled
mem timings : cas latency 2
bankinterleave disabled
precharge to active 3T
active to precharge 6T
active to cmd 5T
dram command rate 2T
speed spectrum disabled
if i overclock my fsb from 133 to 154 which changed cpu from 1.47(1700+) to 1.69(2000+),
and 4200 from 250/250 to 305/290
kept mem timing the same except bankinterleave from disabled to 4
i get 9774
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6707522
clocked at 250/250 stock
cpu/mb temps : 47/25c
aperture size 128mb
fast write enabled
mem timings : cas latency 2
bankinterleave disabled
precharge to active 3T
active to precharge 6T
active to cmd 5T
dram command rate 2T
speed spectrum disabled
if i overclock my fsb from 133 to 154 which changed cpu from 1.47(1700+) to 1.69(2000+),
and 4200 from 250/250 to 305/290
kept mem timing the same except bankinterleave from disabled to 4
i get 9774
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6707522
Maybe it's something with the drivers? I was going to say you should completely remove then reinstall, but it sounds like you went from an Nvidia card to an Nvidia. Anyone know if that still might be an issue?
its a fresh install. didn't even install the integrated video drivers, booted up w2k cd with 4200 in mb already.
Did you install the VIA 4-in-1's (aka Hyperion)? That'll help.
KM266 ... now, is that the one based off the KT266A chipset? I know the earlier one based off the KT266 non-A spec sucked royally.
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Sounds like you have everything where it needs to be except for the RAM bank interleave (it may or may not help, though).
Other than that the latest Dets should give you a boost in the Nature test, which is what you need to top 10k. The KM266 chipset may be what is ultimately holding you back, as it was never the fastest chipset, though a BIOS flash may help.
Other than that the latest Dets should give you a boost in the Nature test, which is what you need to top 10k. The KM266 chipset may be what is ultimately holding you back, as it was never the fastest chipset, though a BIOS flash may help.
Who told you that? Try turning your cpu back to stock speed without any other changes and run 3d2k1 and tell us it didn't really make a difference! I did... My 1700+ tbred b runs at 2.4ghz. I turned my fsb/multi back to stock and lost almost 5000 marks!
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