What reasons do most companies give for not hiring someone for discriminatory reasons?

Locut0s

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Ok so racial, sexual and other discriminatory hiring practices are illegal. but lets face it companies discriminate all the time. It's no coincidence that just about ever waiter and waitress in all the high end bars and restaurants are young, handsome, and sexy. The owner of a Japanese restaurant is more likely to hire Japanese or Asian staff, having joe blow behind the counter making your sashimi doesn't lend the restaurant that air of authenticity after all no matter how good he may be. If I was the owner of a trendy salon or sex shop somewhere down town I might choose to hire gay men instead of straight to cater to a given female customer base. These are mostly just common buisness practices. Question is what excuses do they usually give for not hiring someone they are discriminating against?

I'm not arguing that real discrimination is right, I don't really feel most of these practices count as real discrimination but legally there's not much different about them.
 

Cdubneeddeal

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Yes, it's true that most if not all employers discriminate from time to time, but the kick is, how are you going to prove it? All the employer has to say is the personality didn't fit with the current employees. No law against that.
 

Mahaguru

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Dear Locut0s

Thank you for the opportunity to meet with you and discuss your qualifications for the position of CEO.

While we were impressed with your background and experience, we have concluded that another candidate's qualifications more closely match our requirements. We sincerely regret that we cannot offer you employment with our organization at this time.

You have our best wishes for success in locating the career opportunity you deserve. We will retain your resume in our files to review for future openings for up to six months. In the event of an appropriate available position, we will not hesitate to contact you.

We appreciate your interest and the time you have invested in interviewing with us.

Very truly yours,
 

Locut0s

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Originally posted by: Mahaguru
Dear Locut0s

Thank you for the opportunity to meet with you and discuss your qualifications for the position of CEO.

While we were impressed with your background and experience, we have concluded that another candidate's qualifications more closely match our requirements. We sincerely regret that we cannot offer you employment with our organization at this time.

You have our best wishes for success in locating the career opportunity you deserve. We will retain your resume in our files to review for future openings for up to six months. In the event of an appropriate available position, we will not hesitate to contact you.

We appreciate your interest and the time you have invested in interviewing with us.

Very truly yours,

Yeah generic denial letter. But then you wouldn't be getting one of these if you were going to be the CEO. The kind of jobs I'm talking about are low income jobs where you'd be lucky to even get a phone call or anything. Question is what reason do they give if you were to ask or pushed about it?
 

RichardE

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Originally posted by: Locut0s
Originally posted by: Mahaguru
Dear Locut0s

Thank you for the opportunity to meet with you and discuss your qualifications for the position of CEO.

While we were impressed with your background and experience, we have concluded that another candidate's qualifications more closely match our requirements. We sincerely regret that we cannot offer you employment with our organization at this time.

You have our best wishes for success in locating the career opportunity you deserve. We will retain your resume in our files to review for future openings for up to six months. In the event of an appropriate available position, we will not hesitate to contact you.

We appreciate your interest and the time you have invested in interviewing with us.

Very truly yours,

Yeah generic denial letter. But then you wouldn't be getting one of these if you were going to be the CEO. The kind of jobs I'm talking about are low income jobs where you'd be lucky to even get a phone call or anything. Question is what reason do they give if you were to ask or pushed about it?

When I did bar hiring I told the ugly/big ladies who wanted to work bartender that we had found someone more qualified for the position and we wish them luck in there career in the industry. If they pushed it I sent a certified mail with a denial letter to them outlining reasons we would not hire them (everyone always has a few).
 

Capt Caveman

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Originally posted by: Locut0s
Originally posted by: Mahaguru
Dear Locut0s

Thank you for the opportunity to meet with you and discuss your qualifications for the position of CEO.

While we were impressed with your background and experience, we have concluded that another candidate's qualifications more closely match our requirements. We sincerely regret that we cannot offer you employment with our organization at this time.

You have our best wishes for success in locating the career opportunity you deserve. We will retain your resume in our files to review for future openings for up to six months. In the event of an appropriate available position, we will not hesitate to contact you.

We appreciate your interest and the time you have invested in interviewing with us.

Very truly yours,

Yeah generic denial letter. But then you wouldn't be getting one of these if you were going to be the CEO. The kind of jobs I'm talking about are low income jobs where you'd be lucky to even get a phone call or anything. Question is what reason do they give if you were to ask or pushed about it?

We found someone more qualified.
We're still interviewing other candidates.
etc...
 

ShawnD1

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Originally posted by: RichardE
When I did bar hiring I told the ugly/big ladies who wanted to work bartender that we had found someone more qualified for the position and we wish them luck in there career in the industry. If they pushed it I sent a certified mail with a denial letter to them outlining reasons we would not hire them (everyone always has a few).

I've heard that you're not supposed to give reasons. Even if it's something like "you were convicted for killing 3 children", it's still better to be vague and just say they weren't the most qualified. There's always someone out there who will rule that it's discrimination to not hire a pedophile for a babysitting job.

 

RichardE

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Originally posted by: ShawnD1
Originally posted by: RichardE
When I did bar hiring I told the ugly/big ladies who wanted to work bartender that we had found someone more qualified for the position and we wish them luck in there career in the industry. If they pushed it I sent a certified mail with a denial letter to them outlining reasons we would not hire them (everyone always has a few).

I've heard that you're not supposed to give reasons. Even if it's something like "you were convicted for killing 3 children", it's still better to be vague and just say they weren't the most qualified. There's always someone out there who will rule that it's discrimination to not hire a pedophile for a babysitting job.

Oh, by reasons I meant generic shit like "Your personality doesn't fit with the staff, we found someone with better qualifications, We decided on another candidate at the moment, ect ect"

No way I'd be like "yeah, your too ugly our customers would go down the street to buy/flirt with the cute bartender they have"