What political party...

What political party do I usually support, in your opinion?

  • Republican party

  • Democratic party

  • Green party

  • Libertarian party

  • None - you do not usually support any party


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zsdersw

Lifer
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... do I usually support/advocate, in your opinion?

Given all the threads and posts I've made in P&N, what political party would you say I support?

I have views and stances on issues that are in agreement with various parties, but do I explicitly tow the line for any of them?
 

kage69

Lifer
Jul 17, 2003
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What is the deciding factor in determining support?

Ratio of votes? Donations? Volunteer time?

Hard to answer if you prefer to approach voting by the issue rather than the party.
 

cubby1223

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I always felt you were a shill for The Rent is Too Damn High Party, but it's not in the list...
 

zsdersw

Lifer
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What is the deciding factor in determining support?

Ratio of votes? Donations? Volunteer time?

Hard to answer if you prefer to approach voting by the issue rather than the party.

I'd say the only deciding factors that can be evidenced here are my posts and the threads I create.
 

brandonb

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Oct 17, 2006
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None - you do not usually support any party.

I have things I like and dislike about all parties, but one thing seems to remain in common with all of them that I do not agree with. All of them can be bought, and will sellout to special interests. The typical American Citizen (legal) is no longer a thought in any of their minds.
 

dank69

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Oct 6, 2009
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I answered the republican party.

I think you think they are the party that represents your fiscal policies. I think you are slowly becoming aware of the fact that they do not follow through on half of their promises and you remain blissfully unaware that the other half of their policies have been proven to be a failure. Tax cuts are always a good thing to you, no?

I think that this causes much inner conflict for you because you abhor their social policies for reasons that most people here already know but will remain unsaid because it doesn't matter.

This leaves you feeling like a man without a party to represent you because while the democrats have social policies more in line with yours, you have been told all your life that they are fiscally irresponsible to the point that you cannot even examine the evidence against that stereotype objectively.
 

Kadarin

Lifer
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I am in independent, but usually vote Democrat due to social issues. I hate the fact that Christian Evangelicals have such an influence over the electoral process, and intensely dislike mixing religion and politics.
 

nageov3t

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usually anti-incumbent for local offices and Democrats for national... but I've voted for Republicans in the past (Bush over Gore, Chris Christie over Jon Corzine).
 

kage69

Lifer
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I'd say the only deciding factors that can be evidenced here are my posts and the threads I create.

Fair enough, evidence is key after all.

I don't care for parties much, I'll just say you are a issue-oriented centrist who may be taking himself, or others here, too seriously. I'd stick to real issues if I were you. Not trying to be mean here but threads devoted to what/who is in your sig or what people consider your beliefs to be seem kinda out of place in a Politics and News forum.

But, to address your final question, no I don't feel you toe any party line. I really hope this is just introspection on your part and not because the jibes from posters like cyber, spidey, etc are getting to you.
 

nonlnear

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I didn't say it was a bad thing. I think it is a bad thing that he can't examine democrats objectively.
Do you mean that he can't examine individual Democrats objectively, or can't synthesize an opinion of the party objectively?
 
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You seem fiscally conservative and socially liberal, so I don't think any party fully captures your views, nor do you endorse any of them specifically. If I had to guess, I'd say you leaned towards the Democrats in upcoming elections because social issues have hijacked the Republican ticket in the past year, but I could be way off base with that.
 

nonlnear

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Individual democrats
That's a hefty charge. I'm not a fan of the Democratic party (or the GOP for that matter), but there are individuals within it that I admire. I would have thought the same might be true of zsdersw.
 

Siddhartha

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Democratic Party since JFK and LBJ supported Civil Rights for minorities and women. It was tough to support the Democrats during the Viet Nam War though...

I find it practically impossible to support the current Republican party because of:
1. Their Southern Strategy
2. Their support of the Religious Rights's agenda to impose their beliefs on everyone.
3. Ant-choice agenda
4. Their plan to overturn the New Deal.
5. Their tax plans that involve moving the tax burden onto the poor, and working and middle classes.
6. Their dogma to further reduce environmental regulations.
7. Their dogma to cut education and health funding.
8. The Reagan era policies.
 

dank69

Lifer
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That's a hefty charge. I'm not a fan of the Democratic party (or the GOP for that matter), but there are individuals within it that I admire. I would have thought the same might be true of zsdersw.
I wouldn't go so far as to say there aren't any democrats he may admire. I've never seen him post about a democrat he admires, though. that's not really the point, though.

My point is that I have personally seen him apply a label to a democrat and when I challenged him on it, he was unable to justify that label IMO. See this thread and judge for yourself.

When I asked him why he thinks of Obama as a tax-and-spend democrat, this was his reply:
I say that because he hasn't proposed serious reforms to entitlements. I also say that because of Obamacare.
Now, we can argue how much Obamacare is or isn't going to cost all day, but it all remains speculation. Speculation does not justify labeling anyone. IMO, facts are required.

Then we have the first reason, bolded above. Do you think that reasoning justifies the label tax-and-spend?