What Operating Systems can you buy with true Ownership Rights?

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drag

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Originally posted by: stash
It only affects you if your trying to stay legal. This is one of the major reasons why DRM is so asinine.
You're preaching to the choir. :) And they aren't 'my' rules.

:) I understand.

I just do see how they don't get 'it'.

Lets see... I have a choice.
I go to google video or some other DRM provider and buy a movie or tv show for 6-10 bucks..
I get to watch it a limited amount of times (sometimes).
I get a time limit on how long it's aviable to me (sometimes).
I get a limit on what hardware devices I get to play it on (can't reencode it for a handheld device for instance).
I get a limit on what software I am allowed to use and what operating system I get to use.
And I can't copy it over to another computer or other people's computer without special allowances.

OR...

I can go on IRC or google for it, download it for no-cost and have practically no restrictions.

Now THAT is what I call a business model. Morons. Make it worse to pay for stuff.

Then there are people like me that still go out a buy music cdroms and such and rip it to my computer and still consider me a pirate.

What they should do, IMO, is figure out the average amount a family spends on buying DVDs or rentals and such in a month. I expect between 20 and 40 bucks.

Then work with the ISPs to provide localized high speed access to movies and whatever else I have licensed to me. Then have a subscription rate with those ISPs customers for more 'advanced' services. The ISPs will market it for me since it would attract customers and I wouldn't have to pay for this super fat internet backbone in order to distribute my stuff since it would be all mirrored at the local level.

For tv shows and daily news and such I'd still do commercials to help make producing these things profitable. But unlike television don't make them so long and so abtrusive so that it's easier and more pleasent for end users to simply sit through them then get up from what they are doing and speed through them.

For end users this will provide content easier and faster then bittorrent or other 'P2P' technology. With that you still have to download it.. With streaming it from the local ISP level it's aviable instantly. No wait. Also you don't have to store everything on your disk.. You can leave that open for more important things. Any movie or TV show the customer would want would be immediately aviable to them easier and faster then them looking through their harddrive for the show. The ISP would be more easily be able to cache all the shows you'd ever want to watch, and your paying for the connection already, right?

Then other content makers would join in since if they don't then customers have a easier time accessing MY content much quicker and easier then their's.

Also hunting down privacy would be much much easier. Since accessing my content would be so much easier and faster it would remove any temptation for most people to do piracy. For the hardcore people they wouldn't be able to sell it.. for the people that run bittorrrent sites it would be easier to find out the people that use them and redistribute content illegally because now the ISPs have a financial incentive to cooperate, unlike currently ISPs have a big financial incentive to NOT cooperate. People can no longer use 'fair use' as a escuse for anything anymore since they'll have more then fair use.

All in all it would just end up like current cable television does except that it would be much more interactive and customers get what they want to see rather then the lowest common denominator. That means higher loyality, more time spent watching internet tv, and much more effective advertising. Think like google adwords vs the oldschool gif spam banner "Win a PS2!"

I think there is a whole crapload of money to made this way, but I also think that the corporate folks are too dense to notice this.
 

Brazen

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Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: thestain
didn't know there was a web version.. (shrug), but then again.. I like to keep records of things like taxes on my hard drive.. on my computer.. and having the program on is nice too..

Thanks for the input!!

The Stain

I downloaded the information that I put into the site. I've got it around here somewhere on one or two of my drives...

I have it on my drive too, if you lose your copies.
 

MOCKBA1

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How much are you willing to pay for ownership? You can hire few good engineers and agree that you have complete copyright of their work, and after 6 months you will have truly yours OS with few dedicated apps. Interesting that one rich man decided to do something like that and very nice Linux distro as Ubuntu was created. However I do not suggest Linux way. Unix design prrniciples are really old, so only creation OS from scratch makes sense.
 

Nothinman

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However I do not suggest Linux way. Unix design prrniciples are really old, so only creation OS from scratch makes sense.

So because something is old it's automatically bad?
 

doornail

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Originally posted by: MOCKBA1
Unix design prrniciples are really old, so only creation OS from scratch makes sense.

Unix represents 30 year's worth of the best ideas in computer science. Things that work well got added and things that didn't got dropped. Starting fresh would require a small team of developers to out-think the many thousands who made Unix great.
 

drag

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Originally posted by: doornail
Originally posted by: MOCKBA1
Unix design prrniciples are really old, so only creation OS from scratch makes sense.

Unix represents 30 year's worth of the best ideas in computer science. Things that work well got added and things that didn't got dropped. Starting fresh would require a small team of developers to out-think the many thousands who made Unix great.

"Those who do not understand UNIX are doomed to reinvent it, poorly." -Henry Spencer

There are several decades of dead operating systems out there whose programmers thought they would create the OS to finally kill Unix.. and failed. All sorts of crazy stuff from Lisp machines to OpenVMS. Many people still considure them superior, but they are useless now and Unix is more popular now then it ever was before.

It doesn't realy make sense to abandon it anyways. Linux main problems are harware support for new hardware and application support for commonly used commercial applications. Both of which are solvable problems that are more political or social issues to do with market share and current popularity then anything technical. What parts that are technical are being worked on.