What online memory stores would you trust?
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Double of where? Lets take the cheapest vendor on Pricewatch for 256Meg of DDR 2100 RAM... $46... add his shipping $10... $56 total and that's a house brand, not Micron, or even crucial quality... Crucial with the discount is $57 free shipping... how can you beat that and have the reputation behind it...
So, show me where RAM is 2x the price...
So, show me where RAM is 2x the price...
newegg.com has the memory(ddr 2100) for 68 bucks now! wtf is going on here with the price of ddr memory. its just as much as rambus now!
<< newegg.com has the memory(ddr 2100) for 68 bucks now! wtf is going on here with the price of ddr memory. its just as much as rambus now! >>
Lets not compare Top of the line DDR with bottom of the line Rambus... Truthfully there is still a price gap, but it is closing...
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I'm upgrading some old, non-overclocked computers that currently have generic memory. The old generic memory will not be removed. Thus putting in 'high quality' memory will not do anything to the machines when compared to putting in identical memory to the ones currenly in the machine.
First example of the computers to be upgraded: it currently has 64 MB of Samsung 66 MHz SDRAM. I will upgrade it to 128 MB. Thus I will purchase one 64 MB stick. I can get it for $19.99 at Crucial or $3 elsewhere. Of course, I can do better that the standard Crucial price. I could get PC100 at Crucial instead of 66 MHz for $16.99, subtract the 15% discount and it becomes $14.44. This is nearly 5 times the price of 64 MB SDRAM elsewhere. Now add shipping: free at Crucial (total $14.44), $3.50 elsewhere (total $6.50). The result: Crucial costs more than double.
Here is a second example that I will do (3 computers need this): upgrade 128 MB of Kingston PC100 SDRAM to 256 MB. Thus I need one 128 MB stick. At Crucial the final price is: $23.99*85% + $0.00 = $20.39. Elsewhere I can get it for $10.00 + $3.50 = $13.50. The net price is just under double (although the base price is more than double as I said in the first post).
Third example: needs more RDRAM. Oops Crucial won't sell it, I must go elsewhere.
Fourth example: needs 128 MB PC2100. Crucial base price $36.99, elsewhere $20.00. This isn't quite double, but it is close.
Edit: I can even get Micron memory for about $1 more than the Samsung and Kingston as long as I don't buy it from Crucial. Now I still fail to see how Micron memory from Crucial is higher quality than Micron memory elsewhere. Like I said in other posts: is my 2 liter Pepsi higher quality if I buy it from Hy-Vee instead of K-mart?
First example of the computers to be upgraded: it currently has 64 MB of Samsung 66 MHz SDRAM. I will upgrade it to 128 MB. Thus I will purchase one 64 MB stick. I can get it for $19.99 at Crucial or $3 elsewhere. Of course, I can do better that the standard Crucial price. I could get PC100 at Crucial instead of 66 MHz for $16.99, subtract the 15% discount and it becomes $14.44. This is nearly 5 times the price of 64 MB SDRAM elsewhere. Now add shipping: free at Crucial (total $14.44), $3.50 elsewhere (total $6.50). The result: Crucial costs more than double.
Here is a second example that I will do (3 computers need this): upgrade 128 MB of Kingston PC100 SDRAM to 256 MB. Thus I need one 128 MB stick. At Crucial the final price is: $23.99*85% + $0.00 = $20.39. Elsewhere I can get it for $10.00 + $3.50 = $13.50. The net price is just under double (although the base price is more than double as I said in the first post).
Third example: needs more RDRAM. Oops Crucial won't sell it, I must go elsewhere.
Fourth example: needs 128 MB PC2100. Crucial base price $36.99, elsewhere $20.00. This isn't quite double, but it is close.
Edit: I can even get Micron memory for about $1 more than the Samsung and Kingston as long as I don't buy it from Crucial. Now I still fail to see how Micron memory from Crucial is higher quality than Micron memory elsewhere. Like I said in other posts: is my 2 liter Pepsi higher quality if I buy it from Hy-Vee instead of K-mart?
I trust only Crucial/Micron...
I have ordered memory online more than a couple times, and every time it's been with Crucial, I get it within 2-3 days, and of course it's always been top notch memory. CRUCIAL ROCKS.
I have ordered memory online more than a couple times, and every time it's been with Crucial, I get it within 2-3 days, and of course it's always been top notch memory. CRUCIAL ROCKS.
Sure, $3... cheapest shipping I saw on 64Meg @ $3 was $10.95... making it $13.95 total... Cheapest Micron 64Meg was $7 with $10 shipping, total $17... The $6.95 shipping I saw was on a $7 64 Meg Dimm... total again $13.95...
If you haven't guessed it yet... these online vendors advertise Lower prices, and make it up in Shipping... Just so they can get to the top of the list....
If you haven't guessed it yet... these online vendors advertise Lower prices, and make it up in Shipping... Just so they can get to the top of the list....
Is there any difference between a stick of DDR DRAM (PC-2100) from Crucial.com and the Micron DDR DRAM on newegg.com?
And how can I tell what if my memory is CAS 2 or CAS 2.5?
And how can I tell what if my memory is CAS 2 or CAS 2.5?
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<< If you haven't guessed it yet... these online vendors advertise Lower prices, and make it up in Shipping... Just so they can get to the top of the list.... >>
Yes, I agree completely. I'd be an idiot to pay $10 shipping on a $3 part. That is why I limited the prices I posted earlier to places with $3.50 or less in shipping charges. Never look at the pricewatch shipping charges since these are never up to date. Many many companies have shipping sales (free or reduced) that don't show up on pricewatch. Take Newegg for example: shipping is on sale today.
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<< Is there any difference between a stick of DDR DRAM (PC-2100) from Crucial and the Micron DDR DRAM on newegg.com? >>
There may be a minor warranty difference. However, I can't see anything else that will be different. Micron ram selling at Crucial is the same quality as Micron ram selling elsewhere.
I don't see that new egg has just Micron RAM on their site....
The diffence between the Micron Ram you find on Pricewatch, and Crucial RAM, is the PCB, the chips are the same, but they have different printed circuit boards.... The quality of these boards, can change performance allot... That is why I only get Crucial, or other high end manufacturer, anymore...
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The diffence between the Micron Ram you find on Pricewatch, and Crucial RAM, is the PCB, the chips are the same, but they have different printed circuit boards.... The quality of these boards, can change performance allot... That is why I only get Crucial, or other high end manufacturer, anymore...
Spook
I see alot of people specify in their rig profiles that their RAM is CAS 2. How can I find out what CAS my memory is?
Ok, but I'm referring to getting Micron DDR DRAM through newegg, so wouldn't that PCB be identical to the Micron PCB through Crucial.com?
Oh, and BTW I just bought some Micron DDR DRAM through newegg w/ some other items, and shipping was an additional $2. So that would make it $57 through newegg, $57 through crucial
Oh, and BTW I just bought some Micron DDR DRAM through newegg w/ some other items, and shipping was an additional $2. So that would make it $57 through newegg, $57 through crucial
If you look on the chips, at thier part numbers, you can find the part numbers on the web(I'm not sure where) and figure out if they are CAS 2, 2.5, or 3....
Someone else may know where to find the part numbers, I know the sites are out there, but I've never been...
Someone else may know where to find the part numbers, I know the sites are out there, but I've never been...
What exactly does CAS stand for? How much of a noticeable performance difference is there between the different ratings?
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<< What exactly does CAS stand for? How much of a noticeable performance difference is there between the different ratings? >>
Crucial says this:
"CL2 parts process data a little quicker than CL3 parts in that you have to wait one less clock cycle for the initial data. However, after the first piece of data is processed, the rest of the data is processed at equal speeds. Latency only affects the initial burst of data. Once data starts flowing, there is no effect... so you probably won't notice a significant performance difference."
Thus your very first data may be 10 nanoseconds faster. If you can tell the difference between two programs where one is 10 nanoseconds faster, I'd love to meet you. However, CL2 is often better for overclocking...
Edit: A program may need one long burst of memory - leading to no noticible difference. A different program may need many short memory bursts: thus the 10 nanoseconds will build up. You still need well over a million data bursts for this to be noticible by humans.
Oh, ok - so "CAS" = "CL"
Cause I was just on crucial.com and read the same thing.
So the performance difference between a CL 2 and a CL 2.5 stick of memory is almost nill, and definately not noticeable.
So why does everyone feel they have to specify such an insignificant part of their sys. rig in their profiles.
Anyways, thanks for clearing that up for me.
Cause I was just on crucial.com and read the same thing.
So the performance difference between a CL 2 and a CL 2.5 stick of memory is almost nill, and definately not noticeable.
So why does everyone feel they have to specify such an insignificant part of their sys. rig in their profiles.
Anyways, thanks for clearing that up for me.
Oh, ok - so "CAS" = "CL"
Cause I was just on crucial.com and read the same thing.
So the performance difference between a CL 2 and a CL 2.5 stick of memory is almost nill, and definately not noticeable.
So why does everyone feel they have to specify such an insignificant part of their sys. rig in their profiles.
Anyways, thanks for clearing that up for me.
Cause I was just on crucial.com and read the same thing.
So the performance difference between a CL 2 and a CL 2.5 stick of memory is almost nill, and definately not noticeable.
So why does everyone feel they have to specify such an insignificant part of their sys. rig in their profiles.
Anyways, thanks for clearing that up for me.
Oh, ok - so "CAS" = "CL"
Cause I was just on crucial.com and read the same thing.
So the performance difference between a CL 2 and a CL 2.5 stick of memory is almost nill, and definately not noticeable.
So why does everyone feel they have to specify such an insignificant part of their sys. rig in their profiles.
Anyways, thanks for clearing that up for me.
Cause I was just on crucial.com and read the same thing.
So the performance difference between a CL 2 and a CL 2.5 stick of memory is almost nill, and definately not noticeable.
So why does everyone feel they have to specify such an insignificant part of their sys. rig in their profiles.
Anyways, thanks for clearing that up for me.
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I would definitely order from Crucial, as they test their modules extensively for compatability issues before they sell the memory. They have that on their site as a reason why their prices are somewhat higher than other retailers. I have gotten burned a couple of times with incompatability problems using other micron boards with certain systems. IMHO Crucial would be the best choice as the possiblity of troubles are significantly decreased.
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