What, no thread about Stadia in this subforum? (Cloud gaming - Read Dead Redemption 2 joined at Nov launch)

[Zeze]

Overall info & launch titles:

Google Stadia - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Games:

Google Stadia review

Google Stadia offers impressive cloud gaming in an incomplete package

www.tomsguide.com

Latest news about price:

Google’s Stadia cloud gaming service is coming November 19th: Everything you need to know

You can still preorder a Premiere Edition to play shortly after launch

www.theverge.com

PS5 won't outperform Stadia:

It just doesn’t matter how fast the PlayStation 5 will be

Sony showed off a brief demo of the PlayStation 5's beefy new solid state drive during a recent investor call. It was impressive, but it's not enough to outrun Google's Stadia. The story isn't over for PlayStation, however - it does have other strengths.

www.digitaltrends.com

RDR2 joins for launch title:

'Red Dead Redemption 2' will be a Google Stadia launch title

When Red Dead Redemption 2 comes to PCs in November, it won't just be available in conventional form. Rockstar has also confirmed that its open-world Western game will be available as a launch title for Google Stadia when it debuts the same month. In other words, you'll have the chance to play...

www.engadget.com

I'm all for it. I'm basically paying $200 to play RDR2 at graphics/performance level that crushes my 1060 6gb, but the biggest reason is I can play it on my HDTV like a couch potato.

And any devices. No hardware on my end except a dongle (Chromecast) and controller to play.

I can easily bring it to friend's house or lakehouse, etc.

 

[GodisanAtheist]

Yeah that's a no for me dawg:

- it's Google. This service will be dead and abandoned with no updates in a year or two.

- you have to pay for a sub, then buy the game anyway, then lose the game when Stadia goes belly up.

- everything about my internet sucks and I barely like being dependant on my internet to use Steam or other platforms, let alone actually needing the internet to actually play the game.

-Im an old man. I shook my cane when they took away my physical disks, but the convenience of steam was too much for even me to deny. But streaming is a bridge too far.

 

[JujuFish]

- you have to pay for a sub

This is incorrect.

 

[GodisanAtheist]

This is incorrect.

From OP's Second Link:

Google Stadia review

Google Stadia offers impressive cloud gaming in an incomplete package

www.tomsguide.com

The core Stadia experience will be available as part of Stadia Pro, which is a $9.99 per month subscription service that gets you a growing library of games at the service’s highest streaming quality (4K/60 fps/HDR). A Stadia Pro subscription also provides exclusive discounts to game purchases. It’s not totally clear which games will require a separate purchase and which will be part of Stadia Pro, but Google has confirmed that Destiny 2 is part of the membership.

...

Don’t want to subscribe to anything? You can wait for Stadia Base to arrive in 2020, which will allow you to simply buy the games you want to play a la carte.

So from the second link the OP provided, looks like Stadia is launching as a subscription only service, you will get some games "free" as part of the sub but other games will still have to be purchased. Looks like a "base" level service that will be launched at a later date will allow you to just buy games a la carte without the sub, but thats not whats happening at launch.

So you will have to pay for a sub at launch until some undefined time in 2020.

 

[quikah]

From OP's Second Link:

Google Stadia review

Google Stadia offers impressive cloud gaming in an incomplete package

www.tomsguide.com

So from the second link the OP provided, looks like Stadia is launching as a subscription only service, you will get some games "free" as part of the sub but other games will still have to be purchased. Looks like a "base" level service that will be launched at a later date will allow you to just buy games a la carte without the sub, but thats not whats happening at launch.

So you will have to pay for a sub at launch until some undefined time in 2020.

Also, as I understand it, Stadia base is limited to 1080P resolution.

 

[Stg-Flame]

Stadia is the modern day Sega Dreamcast and the next runner up to replace the Ouya. It'll gain a bit of momentum but I doubt it'll do anything extraordinary that will set it above the rest.

 

[JujuFish]

From OP's Second Link:

Google Stadia review

Google Stadia offers impressive cloud gaming in an incomplete package

www.tomsguide.com

So from the second link the OP provided, looks like Stadia is launching as a subscription only service, you will get some games "free" as part of the sub but other games will still have to be purchased. Looks like a "base" level service that will be launched at a later date will allow you to just buy games a la carte without the sub, but thats not whats happening at launch.

So you will have to pay for a sub at launch until some undefined time in 2020.

Yes, you can pay a subscription, but you don't "have to pay for a sub", which is why you're incorrect. There is no subscription for the 1080p streaming. If you want 4K streaming, you need to pay.

 

[GodisanAtheist]

Yes, you can pay a subscription, but you don't "have to pay for a sub", which is why you're incorrect. There is no subscription for the 1080p streaming. If you want 4K streaming, you need to pay.

- I'm confused. Could you provide a link?

I stated that a free non-sub service (the 1080p/60Hz version) will be coming "At some undefined point in 2020" but at launch the only way to access Stadia is throught the pro service with a subscription.

Happy to be proven wrong, but I need more than your word.

Google Stadia 'Base' will launch next year w/ free 1080p, 60fps game streaming - 9to5Google

Today’s Google Stadia Connect livestream revealed a ton of details we were curious about with the platform, including how much it’ll cost. One thing that wasn’t highlighted, though, is the free “Stadia Base” option that will be launching sometime in 2020. Details are fairly minimal on Stadia...

9to5google.com

 

[JujuFish]

- I'm confused. Could you provide a link?

I stated that a free non-sub service (the 1080p/60Hz version) will be coming "At some undefined point in 2020" but at launch the only way to access Stadia is throught the pro service with a subscription.

Happy to be proven wrong, but I need more than your word.

Google Stadia 'Base' will launch next year w/ free 1080p, 60fps game streaming - 9to5Google

Today’s Google Stadia Connect livestream revealed a ton of details we were curious about with the platform, including how much it’ll cost. One thing that wasn’t highlighted, though, is the free “Stadia Base” option that will be launching sometime in 2020. Details are fairly minimal on Stadia...

9to5google.com

Stadia "Founders Edition" is launching this year. It's just marketing to get $200 out of people. The actual subscription and base services don't launch until next year.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Call me suspicious
We keep hearing how super awesome these game streaming services will be but it never works as advertised
If anyone can do it google will be the company but google is also the company to lose interest once it becomes challenging

 

[Zeze]

It has its niche - at least TODAY anyway. Sony, MS, et al are all launching their respective cloud stream gaming too. So industry indicators are there. Perhaps we'll all move onto cloud gaming - just like cloud computing and everything gone SaaS today.

 

[Stuka87]

The reason its not in this forum is because its not "PC gaming". Its more akin to Console gaming.

It should work ok for casual gamers that do not care about being competitive, or maybe only play single player games, and they live in a place with no data caps. I am sure there are places in the world without any type of data caps. But even if there wasn't all the other issues with it, I would still not get it because I have a 2TB data cap, and Stadia will rip through that rather quickly if you actually game a lot.

 

[aigomorla]

I want a more subscription based game library like Origin Vault, and Microsoft Game Pass.
I am not a fan of streaming game service.

The hardware i run / always will run will be at the top of the niche anyhow, so im far better off playing it on my PC then streaming it.

But honestly, your really at the mercy of your ISP, and Google in streaming.
And ISP can care less about packet loss and buffering for streaming can result in a game over really fast.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Well, IMHO, there's a couple of ways to look at this.

One is that our beloved gaming industry, is going to be sub-sumed by these streaming services, and "traditional" (local high-powered client system-based gaming) is going to fall by the wayside, kind of like DVDs versus online movie streaming services.

But that calls into question, the quality of the "game experience" issue.

The other way to look at it is, it may INCREASE the overall "gaming market" significantly, by casting a much wider net as far as audience goes, for gamers that can't always afford to keep a high-powered local system up-to-date, as well as gamers on 5G cell phones with HD screens and BT controllers (on Android), etc.

That could be an overall positive for the industry, by growing the potential target market for games significantly, and also, taking market share from "mobile games" as we now know them, by enabling higher-end cell-phone owners to playing what amounts to bona-fide PC gaming, streaming, through their cell-phones. So the PC gaming market will go up, while potentially, the "mobile gaming" (as we know it currently) will possibly go down. Meaning, that PC gaming in general grows their share of the pie. That would be good for companies like CD Projekt Red, who are AFAIK, PC-only? (Maybe I'm wrong about that.)

 

[Stg-Flame]

Am I the only one who doesn't use any kind of streaming service?

That would be good for companies like CD Projekt Red, who are AFAIK, PC-only? (Maybe I'm wrong about that.)

The Witcher 3 is one of the most popular games on PS4. They design their games for PC, but they aren't PC exclusive anymore.

 

[DrMrLordX]

Am I the only one who doesn't use any kind of streaming service?

No.

 

[aigomorla]

Youtube is streaming.

You cant tell me you dont watch youtube here and then.

 

[DeathReborn]

Youtube is streaming.

You cant tell me you dont watch youtube here and then.

Stream video, yes. Stream games... hell nah! My brother has bought into Stadia but he has a horrible track record of picking up new services which fail.

 

[Stg-Flame]

Youtube is streaming.

You cant tell me you dont watch youtube here and then.

Yeah I'll watch Youtube every now and then, but I was mainly referring to streaming movies, TV, and games.

 

[EXCellR8]

The reason its not in this forum is because its not "PC gaming". Its more akin to Console gaming.

Yessir. I had started a thread back way back in March--under Console gaming since it ships with a controller.

Good to know users are really taking advantage of the forum search function...

 

[DrMrLordX]

Youtube is streaming.

You cant tell me you dont watch youtube here and then.

Ehh I guess. I don't put it in the same category as Netflix, Twitch, or anything like that though. And definitely not Stadia.

Yeah I'll watch Youtube every now and then, but I was mainly referring to streaming movies, TV, and games.

Yeah that.

 

[PlanetJosh]

Well I have to try it to see if it's fast enough to play pc games. Out of curiosity. And I guess some of it's from all the hype.

 

[Stg-Flame]

What hype? I see the random Stadia ad on Youtube, but other than the short 5-second preview before I skip the ad, I don't see any hype anywhere.

 

[PlanetJosh]

I didn't actually notice hype in ads or other large popular venues so you're probably right. I was getting that idea of hype from a few posts in forum threads like in Guru3d and HardOCP. So I made an assumption.

 

[NTMBK]

Wow, we're two weeks out from launch and I am seeing ZERO hype. Not optimistic for Stadia's chances