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Lemon law

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As a dimocrat I can still say a few things about Romney.

1. If ole Mitt ran on his record as a semi liberal Governor in 08, he may well have won the 08 GOP nomination. Instead the GOD damned fool tried to reinvent himself as a born again plastic man hypocrite. And found instead that no one likes a phony.

2. And even if Romney may be the strongest 2012 GOP candidate, he still tries image over substance which is a game loser. But still given the weakness of the overall GOP field of 2012, its hard to rule out Romney as the 2012 GOP nominee. Especially if Romney shores up his nutcase appeal by choosing a VP with solid T party appeal.
 

werepossum

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As a dimocrat I can still say a few things about Romney.

1. If ole Mitt ran on his record as a semi liberal Governor in 08, he may well have won the 08 GOP nomination. Instead the GOD damned fool tried to reinvent himself as a born again plastic man hypocrite. And found instead that no one likes a phony.

2. And even if Romney may be the strongest 2012 GOP candidate, he still tries image over substance which is a game loser. But still given the weakness of the overall GOP field of 2012, its hard to rule out Romney as the 2012 GOP nominee. Especially if Romney shores up his nutcase appeal by choosing a VP with solid T party appeal.

Maybe. It's certainly true that no one likes a phony, but the GOP primary voters ain't real fond o' semi-liberals either.
 

Bignate603

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Maybe. It's certainly true that no one likes a phony, but the GOP primary voters ain't real fond o' semi-liberals either.

Which is currently what's going to keep the GOP out of the white house. You have to be insane right wing to win the nomination, then middle of the road to win the general election. You've got three options to try...

1. You go extreme right wing and pander to your party to get the nomination, then go down in flames in the general election
2. You go more middle of the road, which has a chance of winning the general election but you never get a chance to see because you're not right wing enough to get the party nomination
3. You go right wing to win the party nomination, then switch to middle of the road after you get it. You then lose because you're a lying bag of crap that doesn't stick with what you originally said.

Notice how none of these 3 options lead to the white house?

We seriously need a viable third party...
 

etrigan420

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Maybe. It's certainly true that no one likes a phony, but the GOP primary voters ain't real fond o' semi-liberals either.

That's precisely why he doesn't have a chance.

He's a fair bit of *both*, and comes off as very "used car salesman-ish"

He almost *has* to pick a tea party VP to sit right with the Republicans.

"Romney/Bachmann '12" (??) Unelectable.

They should just go full retard and go "Palin/Bachmann". Hell, I'd vote for that just for the lulz.
 

werepossum

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Which is currently what's going to keep the GOP out of the white house. You have to be insane right wing to win the nomination, then middle of the road to win the general election. You've got three options to try...

1. You go extreme right wing and pander to your party to get the nomination, then go down in flames in the general election
2. You go more middle of the road, which has a chance of winning the general election but you never get a chance to see because you're not right wing enough to get the party nomination
3. You go right wing to win the party nomination, then switch to middle of the road after you get it. You then lose because you're a lying bag of crap that doesn't stick with what you originally said.

Notice how none of these 3 options lead to the white house?

We seriously need a viable third party...
Dems have the same problem. They have to promise all sorts of socialist programs to win the nod, then have to face the general public and reassure them that they didn't really mean all that, and anyway only rich people will have to pay for it.
 

Zebo

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Not really possum..Obama was elected with a pretty liberal spiel going in and though..UHC, no lobbies money, pull troops, close gitmo...he moved center after he got in.
 

Infohawk

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Seems like Romney is the most conventional Republican candidate, which can be a good thing. If people aren't happier about the economy come election time he may have a shot. If the economy is strong before the election nobody will stop Obama.
 

werepossum

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Not really possum..Obama was elected with a pretty liberal spiel going in and though..UHC, no lobbies money, pull troops, close gitmo...he moved center after he got in.

Yes, that's largely true. But his wackier stuff - say, the need for "positive" rather than "negative" Constitutional rights - disappeared once the primary was sewn up. You didn't see him saying things like how his energy plan would kill coal companies and skyrocket energy costs, or how Obamacare would lead to the destruction of private health insurance, because those things don't play as well to the general electorate as to the Dems primary base voters. See my sig for another example of Obama speeches that disappeared after the primary race.
 

DominionSeraph

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If you were to put the ten best minds from all of history in a room along with the village idiot, who do you think would have all the attention?

Is that your line? Because, "Daaamn."

Witticisms normally annoy me -- there's almost always an angle along which they fail. But that one's... impressive.
 

Jaskalas

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Romney is the 'electable' candidate. The one who sells his values to the highest vote count. He is nothing different from the likes of Bush and McCain and for that the Left will love him in the primary election. They'll tell us anyone opposed to Romney is an extremist.

They want more years of Bush. Those were good times for killing conservatism.
 

UberNeuman

Lifer
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Romney is the 'electable' candidate. The one who sells his values to the highest vote count. He is nothing different from the likes of Bush and McCain and for that the Left will love him in the primary election. They'll tell us anyone opposed to Romney is an extremist.

They want more years of Bush. Those were good times for killing conservatism.

You can't kill what's already dead,,,
 

lupi

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Nobody really likes Romney I think. I mean we all know that politicians are liars and opportunists, but our good friend Mitt really takes that to the extreme. I doubt if even he remembers where he stands on some issues.

then maybe he'll be better than the current guy since everyone knows before hand that he's a liar instead of hoping that for a change he wouldn't be and finding the opposite to be true :)
 
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The R's aren't going to risk any of their up and coming talent on this election. They'll recycle all the candidates from the last election (Palin, Romney, etc) and let the lunatic fringe creep to the front (RP). They'll save guys like Rubio and the guys from LA and MN for 2016 when they don't have an incumbant to fight with.

Basically they're punting this election.
 

Ape

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The R's aren't going to risk any of their up and coming talent on this election. They'll recycle all the candidates from the last election (Palin, Romney, etc) and let the lunatic fringe creep to the front (RP). They'll save guys like Rubio and the guys from LA and MN for 2016 when they don't have an incumbant to fight with.

Basically they're punting this election.

Just like we punted the last election. We knew there was no way in hell after W that a Republican would get elected in 08 and thay why McCain's old bones was rolled out.
 

zsdersw

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Romney would be good for cost-cutting as president; because of his magic underpants, Secret Service protection would be unnecessary.
 

WHAMPOM

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43254760/ns/politics-decision_2012/



This is the republican guy that is suppose to beat Obama...
So.. where's the beef guys?
This is the "man". The Obama terminator.
The savior of the republicans.
The guy that is going to take back the White House.
So where are the balloons? The ticker tape? The "GO ROMNEY GO" threads?
What does Romney have to do to get your attention?
Chose some off the wall governor from Alaska as his running mate?
(ops... been there..done that)

Seen the joke, heard the joke, hearing it again, still not funny.
 

kage69

Lifer
Jul 17, 2003
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He's another McCain, maybe with more liberal social views andless senility.

He's just not nutty enough for the GOP, so I don't see it happening. The Banana Republicans hate him for Romneycare 2.0, and the bible thumpers are scared of a cult different than their own being in the White House.


Next!
 

PingSpike

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JS80

Lifer
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Romney = Obama on Steroids + JD MBA + real life experience

Sorry, do not want RINO.
 

JS80

Lifer
Oct 24, 2005
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The R's aren't going to risk any of their up and coming talent on this election. They'll recycle all the candidates from the last election (Palin, Romney, etc) and let the lunatic fringe creep to the front (RP). They'll save guys like Rubio and the guys from LA and MN for 2016 when they don't have an incumbant to fight with.

Basically they're punting this election.

Which is the right move. 2012 to 2016 will be as if the Mayans were correct. Hopefully America will have learned its lesson from the Obama experiment.