What makes diet soda bad for you, if anything?

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No Lifer
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the reason if not said already is drinking stuff that taste sweet stimulates appetite. not a garrantee of getting fat, but u knwo it contribute for some.
 

jman19

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Originally posted by: BoldAsLove
your body does not know how to digest aspartarme, so your body just stores it which in the end turns into cancer.

Glad to see you backed up your post with proof of your "facts" :disgust:
 

jman19

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Originally posted by: confused1234
Originally posted by: AbAbber2k
Originally posted by: confused1234
aspartame is VERY bad for you.

:roll:

Not that I think it COULDN'T be bad... but in the amount that most people consume it, it's pretty harmless.

Caffeine can kill you... but you'd have to drink like 800+ Redbulls in quick succession. :p

........trans fat is bad for you but people eat it ALL the time...and if your gonna say trans fat isnt bad for you, then i feel sorry for you

You really need to work on your ability to construct an effective argument.
 

vi edit

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Originally posted by: Andy22
After reviewing scientific studies, FDA determined in 1981 that aspartame was safe for use in foods. In 1987, the General Accounting Office investigated the process surrounding FDA's approval of aspartame and confirmed the agency had acted properly. However, FDA has continued to review complaints alleging adverse reactions to products containing aspartame. To date, FDA has not determined any consistent pattern of symptoms that can be attributed to the use of aspartame, nor is the agency aware of any recent studies that clearly show safety problems.

Just another study

Some people can die from eating shellfish. Others from peanut butter. Some people can't take certain types of medication. Ect. Could it just be that maybe it's more an issue with the person and not the product?

Since .08% of the general population has a peanut allergy, does that mean that we should hault production of it?
 

dainthomas

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Originally posted by: confused1234
Originally posted by: Special K
Originally posted by: confused1234
Originally posted by: Special K
Originally posted by: confused1234
aspartame is VERY bad for you. that is the most common artificial sweetener. also theres nothing bad about caffeine.

AFAIK, there is no peer-reviewed study to confirm this.

http://www.sweetpoison.com/aspartame-information.html
http://www.mercola.com/article/aspartame/hidden_dangers.htm
http://www.holisticmed.com/aspartame/
http://www.321recipes.com/aspartame.html
http://www.spiritual-endeavors.org/health/aspartame.htm
http://www.lightparty.com/Health/DangersOfAspartame.html
http://www.earthways.co.uk/aspartame.html
http://www.youngagain2000.com/aspartame.html

aspartame is a excitotoxin which basically "excites" neurons to death. also as the other person said your body cant digest aspartame so it just stores it.

Those are just websites. I can make a website and put whatever I want on it. I mean peer-reviewed scientific papers that are published in journals, like this:

link

Here's another one:

link

Or if you want a regular website:

snopes

well im not going to argue. if you want to drink it then guzzle down all the gallons you want. i do not know you personally so your health is not my concearn. despite all the testimonials of M.D.
http://www.321recipes.com/aspartame.html
you still think its 100% safe for you.

I bet I could find several hundred million links on the negative effects of high fructose corn syrup in about three seconds. I'll go out on a limb and say aspartame is the lesser of two evils.

Edit: Actually there are only 87,600.
 

Fritzo

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As far as I know, the acid in the drinks is the only thing that is actually bad for you, as it hurts your teeth. My dentist said if you drink acidic drinks, drink them through a straw as it will protect your teeth more.
 

Miramonti

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When I drank a 16-32oz of dietrite soda with aspartame each day for 4-6 weeks, about 8 years ago, my short term memory was very noticeably impaired to the point I was very concerned. So I then dediced to stop drinking dietrite with aspartame, I was quickly back to normal within a couple days.

That's all I need to know.
 

Descartes

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Originally posted by: vi_edit
Originally posted by: Andy22
After reviewing scientific studies, FDA determined in 1981 that aspartame was safe for use in foods. In 1987, the General Accounting Office investigated the process surrounding FDA's approval of aspartame and confirmed the agency had acted properly. However, FDA has continued to review complaints alleging adverse reactions to products containing aspartame. To date, FDA has not determined any consistent pattern of symptoms that can be attributed to the use of aspartame, nor is the agency aware of any recent studies that clearly show safety problems.

Just another study

Some people can die from eating shellfish. Others from peanut butter. Some people can't take certain types of medication. Ect. Could it just be that maybe it's more an issue with the person and not the product?

Since .08% of the general population has a peanut allergy, does that mean that we should hault production of it?

IMO, it's an entirely different situation when you consider allergies. Those with peanut allergy usually experience some form of an acute response (or worse) when consuming anything containing it, but the adulterants added to our food supply are far more insidious and manifest themselves only many years later with symptoms that are almost never directly correlated to any single substance. The less acute a response, the more difficult it is to isolate, obviously.

Of course, people no doubt have allergies to food additives. The problem is that developed nations suffer from far more inflammatory diseases (including allergies) than undeveloped nations (it's true; Google will show some studies), and most people look to areas outside of their diet for relief, including a habitual use of pharmaceuticals.

So, again, I don't necessarily think it's a problem with the aspartame as I do it is with the whole food industry. It's progressively removing knowledge and responsibility away from the consumer and moving it into the hands of standards bodies, all under the guise of protecting the consumer; the reality is that it just protects their ignorance. Individual responsibility is what's needed, and that includes moderation.

Cliffs: I mostly agree with you vi.
 

Fritzo

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Originally posted by: jjsole
When I drank a 16-32oz of dietrite soda with aspartame each day for 4-6 weeks, about 8 years ago, my short term memory was very noticeably impaired to the point I was very concerned. So I then dediced to stop drinking dietrite with aspartame, I was quickly back to normal within a couple days.

That's all I need to know.

Or maybe you don't remember if it got better...
 

Special K

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Originally posted by: jman19
Originally posted by: BoldAsLove
your body does not know how to digest aspartarme, so your body just stores it which in the end turns into cancer.

Glad to see you backed up your post with proof of your "facts" :disgust:

Ummm yea, that statement is entirely wrong.

 

Xyclone

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It's not bad, IMO, just hype. Enjoy your diet soda, I love it too. :) This is coming from a health freak.
 

RollWave

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Originally posted by: ThePresence
The artificial sweeteners, depending on which one is used, may have harmful effects, but there are studies that go both ways (on some of them).

Saccharine has been proven to be completely safe despite previous misconceptions. The carcinogenic effect people saw was a result of the improper synthesis of the artificial sugar resulting in saccharine and some other substance. It was the impurity that was the carcinogen.
 

xtknight

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Exercise+sugar>artifical sweeteners

I doubt the artificial sweeteners are bad for you though.
 

imported_goku

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It's not only the artifical preservatives but because when you drink a diet drink, infact drinking any drinks with sugar in it (Soda, Snapple, Apple Juice etc.) it seemingly increases your desire to eat. It's funny, people kept blaming soda for their fat kids so they banned sodas from the schools and replaced it with stupid snapple and other fruit juice dispensing machines that have just as much, if not more sugar. And now they're dumbfounded as to why their kids are fat :roll:

I basically switched to a 'water' diet in early '05 and I don't regret it at all. Sure I drink a soda from every two weeks to a month at a time or more but overall I drink water. One thing I do notice though is that when I drink more than two cans of soda in a sitting, I'll want to drink more soft drinks/anything with sugar and I'm seemingly more hungry. Drinking water makes me not as hungry.
 

Captante

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Originally posted by: FrequencyX
Been drinking Diet Dew for over 7 years and nothing bad has happened yet (knock on wood).

http://www.snopes.com/medical/toxins/aspartame.asp


I don't believe most of these wild claims about Nutra sweet, but I do know that whenever I drink a diet soda that contains it I get a splitting headache shortly afterwards ... also there is some truth regarding formaldehyde forming in canned & bottled soda when its exposed to high tempetures, from what I've heard though its not exclusive to diet soda.
 

Atlantean

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What makes it bad for people and makes them gain weight is they drink it in ridiculously high quantities, and its not completely carb or sugar free so they gain weight. Also... its bad for you because it says "diet" in front of it so you think you can drink more than regular soda.
 

CellarDoor

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I think the main problem is that people who drink a lot of soda, drink soda as a substitute for water. They don't drink nearly as much water as they should, which can be really bad for you. I quit soda alltogether a few years ago, and now I pretty much drink water and juice. My health overall is much better and I've lost about thirty pounds, but there are too many factors to say that the my better health is solely because I quit soda. I have however, heard some people tell me they've lost weight solely from quitting soda, without changing their lifestyle in any other way. It also does worry me when people say that they "just can't quit soda."

I would say the best rule for pretty much anything you encounter is "everything in moderation is fine." That is, if you drink quite a bit of soda a day, try to substitute some of it for water or freshly squeezed juice.
 

SagaLore

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Originally posted by: JoeFahey
I have read about different studies showing that those who drank diet soda actually gained weight from it. All the studies do not know why though, they cannot find a reason why it would cause this.

My memory is getting rusty on this, so someone please confirm -

Until recently, the artificial sweetener of choice was Aspartame (Nutrasweet).

Your digestive system breaks aspartame down into two amino acids and a third chemical. The third chemical suppresses your body's ability to process those (and other) amino acids.
 

fatpat268

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I stopped drinking diet soda a year and a half ago, and sodas all together just a little over a year ago.

When I drank diet coke/pepsi, I'd get this weird chest pain that lasted for a few minutes, but it would ONLY occur if I drank diet coke/pepsi. I also got some pretty bad headaches when I drank a lot of diet stuff with aspartame, and since I avoid it now altogether, I haven't had problems since. Regardless of whether or not it's bad for you, I still stay away from aspartame at all costs... If I eat sweets at all, it better have sugar in it, or I'm not eating it all. ( I don't really like the taste of splenda or some of the other artificial sweeteners).
 

BrownTown

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Originally posted by: CellarDoor
I think the main problem is that people who drink a lot of soda, drink soda as a substitute for water. They don't drink nearly as much water as they should, which can be really bad for you. I quit soda alltogether a few years ago, and now I pretty much drink water and juice. My health overall is much better and I've lost about thirty pounds, but there are too many factors to say that the my better health is solely because I quit soda. I have however, heard some people tell me they've lost weight solely from quitting soda, without changing their lifestyle in any other way. It also does worry me when people say that they "just can't quit soda."

I would say the best rule for pretty much anything you encounter is "everything in moderation is fine." That is, if you drink quite a bit of soda a day, try to substitute some of it for water or freshly squeezed juice.

Yeah, I have this problem at school, everywhere where you get food all they have is drink machines, and i just feel like a wastefull bastard to give up my 150 calories drink to only consume water. I mean I've already lost 15 pounds while at school becasue I cant get enough food. So i pretty much drink nothing but coke for 9 months of the year, second after coke is probably beer :p. This is maybe not a good diet?
 

imported_goku

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Originally posted by: Xyclone
It's not bad, IMO, just hype. Enjoy your diet soda, I love it too. :) This is coming from a clueless idiot who calls himself a "health freak."

Sorry but thats what it really boils down to. It's funny, people keep asking "why oh why" yet they fail to see what has changed in the past 100 years. Juice is bought in higher quantities, Jobs are more White Collar Now, even bluecollar are more white collar now than they've ever been before, tons of modern conviencies, food is much higher in energy content than ever before, there are this things called "diet foods/drinks".

Now that train of thought is the difference between 100 years ago and today, butthere weren't fat people 65 years ago! Well the difference of then and now is..
There is so much more suburbanization nowadays and therefore instead of walking to work (working on a farm would still constitute as walking to work believe it or not) so one just enters their car and off they go to work. Fast Food Restaurants are in overabundance and they have "diet foods" nowadays, factory jobs were very demanding in those days and were definately truely blue collar as computer automation was nonexistant, energy food conent is much higher now than it was back then, there are so many reasons it can make any normal person go insane with the huge amount of data to process.

But...

There is something you can do about it.

Observe what modern conviences you have today, what foods you eat, what things you'd normally have to do otherwise and think about it carefully. Now think about what things you could "go with out" today and replace those methods of that of 100 years ago. Keep replacing things 'here and there' and I'm sure you won't be asking your self, "how in the hell am I going to loose those last 20lbs or 10lbs or what ever"..

Examples of modern conviences you can avoid: Escalator/Elevator=Stairs Juice/Soda=Water, Car/Bus/Taxi=Walk, Fast Food/Restaurant=Home Made Meal, Video Game=Play a sport (Doesn't have to be outdoor), Bored=Keep your self occupied, play a video game/Clean up/Do chores(while this does contradict what I just said prior to this statement, I do find that when I'm bored I snack and therefore I find that playing video games will actually help keep my weight down, so long as you're not snacking/bored of the game as well).

Key Points: Avoid modern conviences when you can, Keep your self occupied, Drink more water, eat at a restaurant ONLY occasionally, exercising can help a fsck load, and thats about it.