I have tried playing Civ 4 many times and I just don't get it. In Civ 3 the other civs would come after you. I don't seem to get that in Civ 4. I do have to say that I was playing on the eisiest level to learn the game, but it seemed very bland. Can someone enlighten me?
What makes Civ 4 so special
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ConstipatedVigilante
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I don't see what people like about it either. It was really boring for me. On the other hand, I love the TB part of Total War and GalCiv 2.
dun get no better than Civ 2, IMO.
i once looked at the patch logs and there was a line there:
"Computer opponenets now cheat less!"
i once looked at the patch logs and there was a line there:
"Computer opponenets now cheat less!"
Bateluer
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You're playing on the easiest difficulty setting and wondering why the AI opponents don't come after you? Let me guess, you also control the most land, have 3x as many cities as the next largest civ, haves tens of thousands in your treasury, and have out-teched everyone else that they might as well be trying to attack your tanks with longbowmen?
Ratchet up the difficulty setting a few notches and the other factions will come after you. You won't be able to trust treaties you make for more than a few turns, you will not be the biggest and the strongest, and you won't be the most advanced either.
Ratchet up the difficulty setting a few notches and the other factions will come after you. You won't be able to trust treaties you make for more than a few turns, you will not be the biggest and the strongest, and you won't be the most advanced either.
I tried to get into Civ IV. I really did but I just couldnt. I just couldnt like it enough to keep playing it for some reason. And I do like turn based startegy games. Just wasnt my thing I guess. Doesnt make it a bad game though.
:roll:
Crank up difficulty minimum to noble and then share your experience. Actually, try prince difficulty.
Chriscross3234
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This thread inspired me to pick up playing Civ 4 BTS again with the new patches... and holy hell, this game got a lot harder from what I remembered! I'm playing on Noble in order to get myself familiar again and everything seems so much harder. Playing as Pericles (Greeks), I'm getting my butt handed to me by a vast amount of swordsmen and archer rebels, plus the one faction on the continent whom I'm waging war against is staying pretty resilient to all my attacks (a stack of about 15 phalanx can't take down their pillaged capital). Another faction, Saladin, from another continent is already moving onto my continent and starting to colonize and spreading his own religion... This will be one tough and interesting game!
I can see how the game would be pretty bland on the easiest difficulty, like Dacalo said, just try playing on Noble and you will certainly see a different side(s) of the game.
I can see how the game would be pretty bland on the easiest difficulty, like Dacalo said, just try playing on Noble and you will certainly see a different side(s) of the game.
i played a really nice TBS recently called "Fantasy Wars". its more tactical combat than a civ-type, but it was fun non-the-less.
I just bought this a few days ago and doesn't seem like my kinda game either but I will give it a go tonight at a higher setting
Took a chance by purchasing it without not having played the previous games in the series. I was close to liking it... but utlimately just isn't my cup of tea I guess.
The best thing to come out of buying it has been my love for the title song. lol... so damn catchy
The best thing to come out of buying it has been my love for the title song. lol... so damn catchy
I agree with the rest about cranking up the difficulty.
However, about it being bland and boring, that isn't true, however its not a game for everybody. Alot of perfectionists will get mad at the game because they will try to build up quickily and then their economy will crash, leaving the civilization bankrupt which will force the player to start small and build up their nation. In the process of building up, you will constantly be harrassed early on in the game (which is something that happened frequently in the early times of the world)... If you dont have a high difficulty you always seem to be the top on everything, and you are allowed to build quickily without any negatives because the easy levels don't allow you to see other aspects of the game as it was designed. Later on, its very critical to create alliances or you will get dragged into world wars with no friends, and trust me, that isn't fun.
The only thing I don't like about the game is the cheating AI... It knows which cities are least defended, they know where your resources are such as iron/oil/uranium and attack the mines which gather the resources, and always know where they are on the map. But other than that its a very solid game if you have the patience to play it.
However, about it being bland and boring, that isn't true, however its not a game for everybody. Alot of perfectionists will get mad at the game because they will try to build up quickily and then their economy will crash, leaving the civilization bankrupt which will force the player to start small and build up their nation. In the process of building up, you will constantly be harrassed early on in the game (which is something that happened frequently in the early times of the world)... If you dont have a high difficulty you always seem to be the top on everything, and you are allowed to build quickily without any negatives because the easy levels don't allow you to see other aspects of the game as it was designed. Later on, its very critical to create alliances or you will get dragged into world wars with no friends, and trust me, that isn't fun.
The only thing I don't like about the game is the cheating AI... It knows which cities are least defended, they know where your resources are such as iron/oil/uranium and attack the mines which gather the resources, and always know where they are on the map. But other than that its a very solid game if you have the patience to play it.
If you are getting into it again, I recommend Fall from Heaven II mod. It's based on fantasy setting, with magic, dragons, good vs. evil, elves thrown in, etc. It's a great mod, I haven't been stopping playing it since I got it 6 months ago.
It's addicting, but it's not actually that good. Woop-dy-doo, it's 5 stacks of a huge army besieging my settlement where a single "battle" lasts for half an hour as I saw one unit fight one unit at a time... The research and diplomancy isn't all THAT either.
Probably, but the whole turn-based "combat" still killed it for me; too little control in preserving units and minimizing casualties. Total War did it "better".
Why is this one so easy? I remember on the second easiest level both civ 2 and civ 3 could be a challenge but even 4th from easiest with civ 4 you dont really even have to think just build and attack, its weird.
BeauJangles
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Huh? Total War is an real-time strategy game. Civ 4 is a turn-based strategy game.
Anyway, Civ 4 (+ BtS) is awesome. Despite having turn-based combat, I think it is surprisingly realistic. First, the game requires that you use large numbers of siege weapons if you actually want to take a city (or multiple cities). Second, the game forces you to specialize your army. To be effective, you need units designed to kill enemy units, units designed to protect your army, units designed to kick the crap out of the defenders, and units to guard the home-front against invasion. The costs of combat are so high that you must make sure you have a clear purpose for pursuing a war and that the war has a definitive end.
I find players who struggle most with this game fail to understand that winning takes a lot of thinking, planning, and skill. This game isn't Command and Conquer.
Lately, I've been messing around with specialist economies where all your research is done by scientist specialists in your cities and by Great Scientists while your slider goes to 0%. It's pretty awesome.
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