What makes a pistol not California legal?

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sourceninja

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Isn't it silly that the state that probably employes the most custom gun designers (for making movie guns that fire blanks) basically hates guns.
 

Brovane

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Isn't it silly that the state that probably employes the most custom gun designers (for making movie guns that fire blanks) basically hates guns.

Yes it is really messed up. I live here and it sucks for guns. Handguns are ok but try buying anything fun like a 9mm Carbine and it sucks. I still wish back in 1999 I would have bought a AR-15 receiver before the latest ban went into effect. I have a bunch of high-cap magazines that I bought before 2000 for a couple of my guns.
 

FelixDeCat

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Only the law of stupidity. How are you going to insert it into the gun?

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olds

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He meant the pistol mags, which would not be insertable unless you glued them bottom to bottom.
They sell plastic clips that will hold 2 mags together and space them far enough apart to function.
 

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Scotteq

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So if I traveled to California and carried my 9mm with its original 15 round clip that I bought in the early 90s, that would be illegal? :eek:


You'll need to look up the Reciprocity laws to see whether California honors your home state's permits. But the answer is likely "No", since your firearm (as you describe it) physically isn't legal in California. You may be able to get away with it if you use (and possess!!!) only 10 round magazines while you are in Cali.
 

Demo24

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They sell plastic clips that will hold 2 mags together and space them far enough apart to function.


Never seen that for a pistol, unless it's extended mags. Normal ones it won't work since the magazine inserts entirely into the grip of the pistol.
 

FelixDeCat

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You'll need to look up the Reciprocity laws to see whether California honors your home state's permits. But the answer is likely "No", since your firearm (as you describe it) physically isn't legal in California. You may be able to get away with it if you use (and possess!!!) only 10 round magazines while you are in Cali.

Im glad we dont have such a law in Texas, at least not until the AWB sunset several years ago. I would be mad if I could only defend myself against 10 bed intruders vs 15 at any one time. :mad:
 

Nebor

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I have 4 17 rnd magazines for my Glock 17 and probably a dozen or so 30 rnd mags for my MAC90. They were all purchased years ago though so they are legal to own, just not legal to buy new in a gun store. I take my Glock to the range from time to time and use the 17 round mags all the time. In fact, they are the only magazines I own for that gun.

In effect, any magazine without a date stamped on it is defensible to own, right?
 

Nebor

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Im glad we dont have such a law in Texas, at least not until the AWB sunset several years ago. I would be mad if I could only defend myself against 10 bed intruders vs 15 at any one time. :mad:

10 bed intruders sounds like a party! :awe:
 

olds

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Never seen that for a pistol, unless it's extended mags. Normal ones it won't work since the magazine inserts entirely into the grip of the pistol.

My bad, I was responding to the image of the rifle.
 

schneiderguy

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Not true and you should know better.

Uhmm yes it is. It is not illegal to own a handgun that isn't on the roster. You just can't buy one from an FFL. You can PPT one if you can find one that's in the state already (buy from a police officer since they're exempt from the roster, or get one that has been single-shot transferred).
 

Scotteq

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Im glad we dont have such a law in Texas, at least not until the AWB sunset several years ago. I would be mad if I could only defend myself against 10 bed intruders vs 15 at any one time. :mad:

fifteen intruders in your bed!!! omg!!! SPRAY AND PRAY!!! :p

You're correct on Magazine size :) But just in case you ever need - you do have Reciprocity laws in Texas: http://www.nraila.org/recmap/texasrec.pdf


....though I would politely and humbly opine that - if you ever anticipate a situation where you might need 15 handgun rounds - you would likely be better suited with a longer arm. ;) I tend to think "Gauge", rather than "Caliber" :)
 
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roguerower

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Damn gun laws are so goddamned confusing. I'm looking online for one set of concise rules but can't seem to find anything. Help?
 

olds

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Uhmm yes it is. It is not illegal to own a handgun that isn't on the roster. You just can't buy one from an FFL. You can PPT one if you can find one that's in the state already (buy from a police officer since they're exempt from the roster, or get one that has been single-shot transferred).

Thanks for making my point.
 

CRXican

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Yes it is really messed up. I live here and it sucks for guns. Handguns are ok but try buying anything fun like a 9mm Carbine and it sucks. I still wish back in 1999 I would have bought a AR-15 receiver before the latest ban went into effect. I have a bunch of high-cap magazines that I bought before 2000 for a couple of my guns.

You can use your hi cap mags if you build what's known as a featureless rifle:

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Must have fixed stock, no pistol grip (various mods), and a muzzle break (NOT flash hider).