What made Paul so great?

[Gunslinger08]

 

[Nutdotnet]

By the same token, what made Jesus so great?

 

[milagro]

ban - remember there are ladies here.

 

[tommywishbone]

Paulie Shore? Well to begin with, he's just funny. And who can forget Encino Man? Greatness!!

 

[thecoolnessrune]

It is not worshipped. It is meditated upon. The books of Paul carry many truths and practices that man should continue to use. Jesus was great because he was the Messiah. Simple as that.

 

[Plasdom]

It is believe to be the word of God. So therefore it is not the "greatness" of Paul that makes his writing revered but rather the believe that God provided us with the Word through him (Paul)

 

[mugs]

Paul's words are not worshipped.

 

[Nikamichi]

Originally posted by: mugs
Paul's words are not worshipped.

 

[Nutdotnet]

Originally posted by: thecoolnessrune
It is not worshipped. It is meditated upon. The books of Paul carry many truths and practices that man should continue to use. Jesus was great because he was the Messiah. Simple as that.

Haha...you made me spit out my coffee.

 

[Taggart]

I thought you meant Paul McCartney!

Would still be accurate

 

[farmercal]

Not what...who...and the answer is God!

 

[mercanucaribe]

Originally posted by: Taggart
I thought you meant Paul McCartney!

Would still be accurate

I thought so too.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: mugs
Paul's words are not worshipped.

The vast majority of rules, ideology and customs within the Catholic and Christian churches are based upon the letters of Paul based on his supposed visions, NOT the teachings of Jesus.

Christianity should, in reality, be called "Paulism."

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: mugs
Paul's words are not worshipped.

The vast majority of rules, ideology and customs within the Catholic and Christian churches are based upon the letters of Paul based on his supposed visions, NOT the teachings of Jesus.

Christianity should, in reality, be called "Paulism."

Nonetheless, he is not worshipped.

And the "basics" of Christianity are not based on the writings of Paul, they are based on the words of Jesus. Paul's writings are primarily letters to existing Christians giving them guidance on how to live as Christians.

 

[mwtgg]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: mugs
Paul's words are not worshipped.

The vast majority of rules, ideology and customs within the Catholic and Christian churches are based upon the letters of Paul based on his supposed visions, NOT the teachings of Jesus.

Christianity should, in reality, be called "Paulism."

Nonetheless, he is not worshipped.

I do.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: mwtgg

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: mugs
Paul's words are not worshipped.

The vast majority of rules, ideology and customs within the Catholic and Christian churches are based upon the letters of Paul based on his supposed visions, NOT the teachings of Jesus.

Christianity should, in reality, be called "Paulism."

Nonetheless, he is not worshipped.

I do.

You do what?

 

[mwtgg]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: mwtgg

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: mugs
Paul's words are not worshipped.

The vast majority of rules, ideology and customs within the Catholic and Christian churches are based upon the letters of Paul based on his supposed visions, NOT the teachings of Jesus.

Christianity should, in reality, be called "Paulism."

Nonetheless, he is not worshipped.

I do.

You do what?

I worship him.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: mugs
Paul's words are not worshipped.

The vast majority of rules, ideology and customs within the Catholic and Christian churches are based upon the letters of Paul based on his supposed visions, NOT the teachings of Jesus.

Christianity should, in reality, be called "Paulism."

Nonetheless, he is not worshipped.

And the "basics" of Christianity are not based on the writings of Paul, they are based on the words of Jesus. Paul's writings are primarily letters to existing Christians giving them guidance on how to live as Christians.

Really? All of the most often blurted "basics" of Christianity I hear are really Paulisms, and are not found in the four Gospels.

Try reading this:
http://www.answering-christianity.com/paul_docs.htm

Carl Sagan (Scientist; Author)

"My long-time view about Christianity is that it represents an amalgam of two seemingly
immiscible parts--the religion of Jesus and the religion of Paul. Thomas Jefferson attempted to
excise the Pauline parts of the New Testament. There wasn't much left when he was done, but it
was an inspiring document." (Letter to Ken Schei [author of Christianity Betrayed])


Thomas Jefferson

"Paul was the first corrupter of the doctrines of Jesus." (All references not listed here, can be found in Christianity Betrayed)

Albert Schweitzer

"Where possible Paul avoids quoting the teaching of Jesus, in fact even mentioning it. If we had
to rely on Paul, we should not know that Jesus taught in parables, had delivered the sermon on
the mount, and had taught His disciples the 'Our Father.' Even where they are specially
relevant, Paul passes over the words of the Lord."


Wil Durant (Philosopher)

"Paul created a theology of which none but the vaguest warrants can be found in the words of
Christ."
"Fundamentalism is the triumph of Paul over Christ."


Walter Kaufmann (Professor of Philosophy, Princeton)

"Paul substituted faith in Christ for the Christlike life."


George Bernard Shaw

"No sooner had Jesus knocked over the dragon of superstition than Paul boldly set it on its legs again in the name of Jesus."


Thomas Hardy
"The new testament was less a Christiad than a Pauliad."

Hyam Maccoby (Talmudic Scholar)

"As we have seen, the purposes of the book of Acts is to minimize the conflict between Paul and the leaders of the Jerusalem Church, James and Peter. Peter and Paul, in later Christian tradition, became twin saints, brothers in faith, and the idea that they were historically bitter opponents standing for irreconcilable religious standpoints would have been repudiated with horror. The work of the author of Acts was well done; he rescued Christianity from the imputation of being the individual creation of Paul, and instead gave it a respectable pedigree, as a doctrine with the authority of the so-called Jerusalem Church, conceived as continuous in spirit with the Pauline Gentile Church of Rome. Yet, for all his efforts, the truth of the matter is not hard to recover, if we examine the New Testament evidence with an eye to tell-tale inconsistencies and confusions, rather than with the determination to gloss over and harmonize all difficulties in the interests of an orthodox interpretation." (The Mythmaker, p. 139,Weidenfeld and Nicolson, London, 1986)


Jeremy Bentham (English Philosopher)

"If Christianity needed an Anti-Christ, they needed look no farther than Paul." (Paraphrased. Looking for a copy of "Not Paul, but Jesus" in order to retrieve the exact quote.)

Carl Jung (Psychologist)

"Paul hardly ever allows the real Jesus of Nazareth to get a word in." (U.S. News and World Report, April 22, 1991, p. 55)


Bishop John S. Spong (Episcopal Bishop of Newark)

"Paul's words are not the Words of God. They are the words of Paul- a vast difference."
(Rescuing the Bible from Fundamentalism, p. 104, Harper San Francisco, 1991).

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: mugs
Paul's words are not worshipped.

The vast majority of rules, ideology and customs within the Catholic and Christian churches are based upon the letters of Paul based on his supposed visions, NOT the teachings of Jesus.

Christianity should, in reality, be called "Paulism."

Nonetheless, he is not worshipped.

And the "basics" of Christianity are not based on the writings of Paul, they are based on the words of Jesus. Paul's writings are primarily letters to existing Christians giving them guidance on how to live as Christians.

Really? All of the most often blurted "basics" of Christianity I hear are really Paulisms, and are not found in the four Gospels.

Depends on what you consider to be the "basics" of Christianity. The definition of what makes a person a Christian is in the Gospels.

 

[LikeLinus]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: mugs
Paul's words are not worshipped.

The vast majority of rules, ideology and customs within the Catholic and Christian churches are based upon the letters of Paul based on his supposed visions, NOT the teachings of Jesus.

Christianity should, in reality, be called "Paulism."

Nonetheless, he is not worshipped.

And the "basics" of Christianity are not based on the writings of Paul, they are based on the words of Jesus. Paul's writings are primarily letters to existing Christians giving them guidance on how to live as Christians.

Really? All of the most often blurted "basics" of Christianity I hear are really Paulisms, and are not found in the four Gospels.

Try reading this: load of bs

Please tell me that post and link is a joke of some sort or sarcasm.

A website created by Osama Abdallah telling us the "truth" about christianity.

Oh man that site is a riot. Thanks for the laugh.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: LikeLinus

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: mugs
Paul's words are not worshipped.

The vast majority of rules, ideology and customs within the Catholic and Christian churches are based upon the letters of Paul based on his supposed visions, NOT the teachings of Jesus.

Christianity should, in reality, be called "Paulism."

Nonetheless, he is not worshipped.

And the "basics" of Christianity are not based on the writings of Paul, they are based on the words of Jesus. Paul's writings are primarily letters to existing Christians giving them guidance on how to live as Christians.

Really? All of the most often blurted "basics" of Christianity I hear are really Paulisms, and are not found in the four Gospels.

Try reading this: load of bs

Please tell me that post and link is a joke of some sort or sarcasm.

A website created by Osama Abdallah telling us the "truth" about christianity.

Oh man that site is a riot. Thanks for the laugh.

All those quote are authentic. Why not address the argument(s) instead of arguing against the man who merely passed them along?

Or can you?

 

[LikeLinus]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: LikeLinus

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: mugs
Paul's words are not worshipped.

The vast majority of rules, ideology and customs within the Catholic and Christian churches are based upon the letters of Paul based on his supposed visions, NOT the teachings of Jesus.

Christianity should, in reality, be called "Paulism."

Nonetheless, he is not worshipped.

And the "basics" of Christianity are not based on the writings of Paul, they are based on the words of Jesus. Paul's writings are primarily letters to existing Christians giving them guidance on how to live as Christians.

Really? All of the most often blurted "basics" of Christianity I hear are really Paulisms, and are not found in the four Gospels.

Try reading this: load of bs

Please tell me that post and link is a joke of some sort or sarcasm.

A website created by Osama Abdallah telling us the "truth" about christianity.

Oh man that site is a riot. Thanks for the laugh.

All those quote are authentic. Why not address the argument(s) instead of arguing against the man who merely passed them along?

Or can you?

Authentic or not, these quotes really hold no meaning and really do nothing to actually come out and say that Christianity and it's beliefs are based on his works. Thomas Hardy
is about the only one who actually said that. Go back and read the quotes.

I don't see how you can base the majority of these as an argument that "All of the most often blurted "basics" of Christianity I hear are really Paulisms, and are not found in the four Gospels".

The argument is what they said, the argument is you're using these to fuel the fact that "all you've heard" and you provide a link to a page like that. You're the one with the crappy reference material.....

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: LikeLinus

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: LikeLinus

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: mugs
Paul's words are not worshipped.

The vast majority of rules, ideology and customs within the Catholic and Christian churches are based upon the letters of Paul based on his supposed visions, NOT the teachings of Jesus.

Christianity should, in reality, be called "Paulism."

Nonetheless, he is not worshipped.

And the "basics" of Christianity are not based on the writings of Paul, they are based on the words of Jesus. Paul's writings are primarily letters to existing Christians giving them guidance on how to live as Christians.

Really? All of the most often blurted "basics" of Christianity I hear are really Paulisms, and are not found in the four Gospels.

Try reading this: load of bs

Please tell me that post and link is a joke of some sort or sarcasm.

A website created by Osama Abdallah telling us the "truth" about christianity.

Oh man that site is a riot. Thanks for the laugh.

All those quote are authentic. Why not address the argument(s) instead of arguing against the man who merely passed them along?

Or can you?

Authentic or not, these quotes really hold no meaning and really do nothing to actually come out and say that Christianity and it's beliefs are based on his works. Thomas Hardy
is about the only one who actually said that. Go back and read the quotes.

I've read them amny times, and if you actually believe what you just said, you're delusional.

 

[HombrePequeno]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: LikeLinus

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: LikeLinus

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: mugs
Paul's words are not worshipped.

The vast majority of rules, ideology and customs within the Catholic and Christian churches are based upon the letters of Paul based on his supposed visions, NOT the teachings of Jesus.

Christianity should, in reality, be called "Paulism."

Nonetheless, he is not worshipped.

And the "basics" of Christianity are not based on the writings of Paul, they are based on the words of Jesus. Paul's writings are primarily letters to existing Christians giving them guidance on how to live as Christians.

Really? All of the most often blurted "basics" of Christianity I hear are really Paulisms, and are not found in the four Gospels.

Try reading this: load of bs

Please tell me that post and link is a joke of some sort or sarcasm.

A website created by Osama Abdallah telling us the "truth" about christianity.

Oh man that site is a riot. Thanks for the laugh.

All those quote are authentic. Why not address the argument(s) instead of arguing against the man who merely passed them along?

Or can you?

Authentic or not, these quotes really hold no meaning and really do nothing to actually come out and say that Christianity and it's beliefs are based on his works. Thomas Hardy
is about the only one who actually said that. Go back and read the quotes.

I've read them amny times, and if you actually believe what you just said, you're delusional.

Do you have any links to support your claims? I'm not denying them, I'm interested in reading up about it.

 

[Gunslinger08]

I had no idea that this was such a hotly debated topic. I tend to agree that Paul was more of a corrupter. This accounts for some of the inconsistencies between the Gospels and the books of Paul.