what luxury car would you get??

luv2liv

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im told those german cars are unreliable, especially after 3 years. so those bmw/audi are not in my book

all i want is reliable. dont care for speed/performance. would be sweet if i die before the car (im 32). any recommendations?
 

Arkaign

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All cars will need maintenance, and some of that can be a little $$$. Infiniti G series (or M series with the 3.7) is a good choice, timing chain so no timing belt service, and they've been pretty reliable over the years. Things like tires, brakes, etc will be a bit more than your average corolla/civic/etc.

Lexus IS250 is another decent choice. Slowish, but it's a nice car and a little smaller/lighter than the G37. Or ES350, which are quite boring but have been really solid.
 

brblx

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if all you want is reliable, then you don't want a luxury car.

as far as reliability, you'll probably have similar luck with IS or G. honda's offering will probably be a little better (but FWD and imo less class-competitive).

if you don't care about performance, though, you're not going to like the lexus, and you'll hate the infiniti. haven't driven the acura. don't buy a car that doesn't suit you because you want the badge.
 

T2urtle

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if the IS250 was mentioned and speed wasn't high on the list the G25 should be named as well.

Those 2 shouldn't be really thirsty in terms of MPG and get your the false baller effect.

but as mentioned before all cars will need work. in some cases not much but in others it could be costly.
 

brblx

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if the IS250 was mentioned and speed wasn't high on the list the G25 should be named as well.

Those 2 shouldn't be really thirsty in terms of MPG and get your the false baller effect.

but as mentioned before all cars will need work. in some cases not much but in others it could be costly.

g25 isn't going to get any better mileage than the g37 unless you're hauling ass in the latter all the time. ratings are like 1-2mpg different. with the engines being largely identical other than displacement, you end up simply running the 2.5 at a higher RPM and load to compensate for less low-end power.
 

Arkaign

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lmao :D

g25 isn't going to get any better mileage than the g37 unless you're hauling ass in the latter all the time. ratings are like 1-2mpg different. with the engines being largely identical other than displacement, you end up simply running the 2.5 at a higher RPM and load to compensate for less low-end power.

I find this to be true in many configurations. For example, recent Jeep wrangler with the 4-cyl got terrible fuel economy, the little motor had to just about murder itself just to move that chunky shape around. Terrible. This was also true of the E46 series I6 motors, the 325i didn't really deliver better fuel economy than the 330i, it just had to work harder to get around.

Imho the 2.5L in the G is a bit too small, as the G Sedan is notably larger than the compact IS, where a 2.5L is a bit more passable. With the proven nature of the VQ and the relatively small price difference, I couldn't easily recommend the G25. The IS250 is a lot cheaper than the IS350 though, and while pretty boring to drive, isn't so underpowered that it can't get out of it's own way. It's about the same performance as a 4cyl accord or camry in the main, with a little better handling setup and tighter suspension.
 

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BigSmooth

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I wouldn't buy one myself, but the Hyundai Equus did manage to beat the Lexus LS in a Car & Driver comparison test and it has a very long warranty.
 

Demo24

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Is this serious? I remember them being quite out of date inside, but tbh I haven't been in one since maybe 2007ish.

2012 model is a vast improvement all around. Not a horrible suggestion although I would imagine the Lexus's to be more reliable and probably what the OP is looking for.
 

DaTT

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You guys are being far too realistic. The above mentioned cars are, for the most part, affordable.

I would get a Bentley or something for luxury.
 

brblx

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right. but he said reliable. bentley is polar opposite of reliable.

japanese car with simplest drivetrain and least amount of electronic widgets = most reliable.
 

JulesMaximus

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All cars will need maintenance, and some of that can be a little $$$. Infiniti G series (or M series with the 3.7) is a good choice, timing chain so no timing belt service, and they've been pretty reliable over the years. Things like tires, brakes, etc will be a bit more than your average corolla/civic/etc.

Lexus IS250 is another decent choice. Slowish, but it's a nice car and a little smaller/lighter than the G37. Or ES350, which are quite boring but have been really solid.

Always cracks me up when I see this. As though that's somehow going to sway me against purchasing an otherwise ideal car. Honestly, it has never even been a consideration for me.

Also, why mention the IS250 but not the IS350? Personally, I think the IS250 is underpowered. Get the IS350, it is worth it.
 
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exdeath

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Nah, you just have guides and tensioners that require tearing down half the engine to replace since they weren't meant to be accessed and serviced regularly.
 

brblx

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as far as nissan, timing chains are pretty reliable on the 3.5/3.7 engines. replacement is probably 6-7 hours or so (flat rate labor), so costly but not horrifying given the parts are not that bad. but if you're tearing the front covers off it's probably because some dick didn't change the oil and the VVT stuff is fubar (and cam sprockets and covers (house the solenoids) are not cheap at all). with proper oil change intervals, that's a pretty decent motor. i would just say its dings come from not being QUITE so reliable as the honda engines plus their transaxles.

also, to whoever said brakes/tires are more expensive- try about 4x as expensive. the stuff costs a lot more in the first place, plus you're changing stuff out twice as often. then if you get to people who warp rotors (98% of them) and those that don't have their tires rotated, their is a SHITLOT of routine upkeep (some caused by owner error) on a majority of luxury cars.
 

Doppel

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lmao :D



I find this to be true in many configurations. For example, recent Jeep wrangler with the 4-cyl got terrible fuel economy, the little motor had to just about murder itself just to move that chunky shape around. Terrible. This was also true of the E46 series I6 motors, the 325i didn't really deliver better fuel economy than the 330i, it just had to work harder to get around.

Imho the 2.5L in the G is a bit too small, as the G Sedan is notably larger than the compact IS, where a 2.5L is a bit more passable. With the proven nature of the VQ and the relatively small price difference, I couldn't easily recommend the G25. The IS250 is a lot cheaper than the IS350 though, and while pretty boring to drive, isn't so underpowered that it can't get out of it's own way. It's about the same performance as a 4cyl accord or camry in the main, with a little better handling setup and tighter suspension.
And current sienna minivan. 4 vs 6 cylinder. Also 2011 Sonata the turbo 4 actually gets almost as good mileage as the 198 NA.
Always cracks me up when I see this.
In fact the timing belt service played a key role in me not buying a Honda earlier this year. It was just about due for service and the dealership wanted $750 for it. So I had to add that $750 onto the price of a $9k vehicle and it was one of the top two reasons I just didn't bother. On a new car it's moot, though, because it will be 7 (?) years or 100k before it needs attention.
they weren't meant to be accessed and serviced regularly.
Because they don't need it regularly. Nissan's V6 is absolutely the last thing you need to worry about in one of their cars.